imong 发表于 2004-3-12 13:12:45

issue136 [b]极罕见观点:全否原题![/b]

issue136
"The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare."

On arguing that the absence of choice is an extremely rare circumstance, the author’s seduction has been on its half way to success. However, sophistication in the term “choice” does not help validate his wrongful assertion; hardly will anyone with a clear understanding in “choice” be persuaded by such misleading illusion.

It seems reasonable to conclude that choice abounds if one turns to the cliché saying “we are making choices everyday”: it is common sense that one can choose being stuffed or starved in the morning before going to work, or similarly, to get dressed in this or that way. On seeing such circumstances (but no the nature of choice) some people fervently contends that choice almost exists everywhere, as the author does. After all, aren’t we making choices, to some extent, almost anywhere, anytime?

Nonetheless, underlying such inference is the assumption, or rather, the superficial definition of choice, indicating that choice simply means “one or others”. No one will miss to cast doubt on this shallow description: are such choices choices?

Far beyond the cursory portrait the author has taken for granted, choice in essence means to perform to one’s free will, which is fundamentally different from to perform by oneself. The real choice is so idealistic that it is seldom achieved. We make our own choices, to eat or to fast for instance, but not necessarily to our free wills (do we really want to do so or are we coerced?). The key point lies here. I encountered such a circumstance last year. Junior students in my department was told that they are going to take a variety of optional courses but it turned out that one student must pick seven out of only eight available in order to save minimal credits in optional courses to graduate! Does anyone consider seven out of eight a kind of choice on seeing that free will was nearly eradicated? This is a case to extreme, and less dramatic circumstances are so widespread and commonplace that our daily life becomes a documentary recording how our free wills are humiliated.

The absence of “making choices by oneself” is a circumstance that is very, very rare, while the absence of “making choices to one’s free will” is a circumstance that is extraordinarily prevalent. People are always in a situation just like a pile of paper to be stapled: they may choose, at most, the permutation as well as their position in the row, but no one can escape being bound up ------ regardless of whether they want to be so. More often than not, free will for escape is stifled in this way.

Thus, one can immediately recognize how naïve it is to propose a non-existent omnipresence of choice, or rather, how naïve it is to devaluate choice by saying so. Please stop saying that people are enjoying extensive choices whey they are still coerced to choose. Those choices are never of real choices; real choices are very rare. (491words)

genie05 发表于 2004-3-12 14:38:23

。。。。。

xqmelissa 发表于 2004-3-12 14:44:42

我还没看呢,不过从题目上来看,觉得否定是比较正常的啊
嘿嘿

有时间好好批批!

xiaoyaogogo 发表于 2004-3-12 15:25:23

佩服!

jellyopps 发表于 2004-3-12 17:33:36

我觉得作者是从choice=free will来讲的,很多时候人们都必须被迫的作出决定。其实,choice 本身是客观摆在那里的,任何事情都有不同的选项,只是人们总是期望作出最好的决定,不断患得患失,才会觉得选择很少。
不知道说清楚没有,很容易绕阿

Fantasizing 发表于 2004-3-12 22:09:43

我当时考试时就是写的这道题啊,我也是全否的。嗯,先收下来回去看看。不过还是要说,同志啊

yellowbean 发表于 2004-3-13 00:07:05

:cool:

imong 大侠的作品?
admire一把
这么极端的观点我不太敢写

imong 发表于 2004-3-15 21:21:04

唉,没能炒起来啊,看来本不该用自己的id发文章的~(btw我没说这是我写的啊)

本来打算借机炒一炒这个题目的,现在只好先自己评一下了。

这篇文章立论立足点是choice=free will,从这一点得到了基本上比较极端的态度。但是恐怕不少人也不认同这一点,就像不认同choice=庸俗的早上吃苹果晚上喝牛奶一样。这个出发点实际上决定了文章的走向。

其实这篇文章的立论分析并不能算深入:一个8选7的实例,一个stapler的喻证,没了。如果能够再多一点论证会更有力,不过可惜,当时并没有想到更多的内容。

我自己对这篇文章能拿多少分也不敢乱估计。大家要是有兴趣可以评评分。

lovebrian 发表于 2004-3-15 21:34:06

又炒136了?~~~~~晚会儿写写~~~~呵呵~~这片收来看~~

发烧2000 发表于 2004-3-15 22:34:26

来看看,今天刚写过的文章!!!
issue136
"The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare."

On arguing that the absence of choice is an extremely rare circumstance, the author’s seduction (seduction这个词可以用在这里吗?) has been on its half way to success. However, sophistication in the term “choice” does not help validate his wrongful assertion; hardly will anyone with a clear understanding in “choice” be persuaded by such misleading illusion. (绝的有些说的太绝对了)

It seems reasonable to conclude that choice(->choices) abounds if one turns to the cliché saying “we are making choices everyday”: it is common sense that one can choose being stuffed or starved in the morning before going to work, or similarly, to get dressed in this or that way. On seeing such circumstances (but no(->not) the nature of choice) some people fervently contends(->take it for granted) that choice(choices) almost exists everywhere, as the author does. After all, aren’t we making choices, to some extent, almost anywhere, anytime?

Nonetheless, underlying such (->such underlying) inference is the (->is much more like a) assumption, or rather, the superficial definition of choice, indicating that choice simply means “one or others”. No one will miss to cast doubt on this shallow description: are such choices?

Far beyond the cursory portrait the author has taken for granted, choice in essence (->essential) means to perform to(删掉to) one’s free will, which is fundamentally different from to perform by oneself. The real choice is so idealistic that it is seldom achieved. We make our own choices, to eat or to fast for instance, but not necessarily to our free wills (do we really want to do so or are we coerced?). The key point lies here. I encountered such a circumstance last year. Junior students in my department was told that they are going to take a variety of optional courses but it turned out that one student must pick seven out of only eight available in order to save (obtain) minimal credits in optional courses to graduate! Does anyone consider seven out of eight a kind of choice (such kind of choice) on seeing that free will was nearly eradicated? This is a case to extreme(extreme case), and less dramatic circumstances are so widespread and commonplace that our daily life becomes a documentary recording how our free wills are humiliated.

The absence of “making choices by oneself” is a circumstance that is very, very rare, while the absence of “making choices to one’s free will” is a circumstance that is extraordinarily prevalent. People are always in a situation just like a pile of paper to be stapled: they may choose, at most, the permutation as well as their position in the row, but no one can escape being bound up ------ regardless of whether they want to be so. More often than not, free will for escape is stifled in this way.

Thus, one can immediately recognize how naïve it is to propose a non-existent omnipresence (用语重复了) of choice, or rather, how naïve it is to devaluate choice by saying so. Please stop saying that (觉得这种句子用在ISSUE里不太好)people are enjoying extensive choices whey they are still coerced to choose. Those choices are never of real choices; real choices are very rare. (491words)

个人看法:
个人觉得这篇文章有些花哨,许多句子用的太过绝对,当然,一些短语的用的还是很出彩的,比如cast doubt on this shallow description,但是有部分词语的使用有失妥当。

imong 发表于 2004-3-15 23:02:57

谢谢发烧2000

文章的确有些花哨了。用词方面并不一定都很合适。我觉得最应该改进的仍然是论证和分析需要充实,华丽的表达如果没有深厚的理解和分析作为出发点是没有多少效果的。

jianguo 发表于 2004-3-16 00:11:40

issue136
"The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare."

On arguing that the absence of choice is an extremely rare circumstance, the author’s seduction(是否应该为deduction) has been on its half way to success. However, sophistication in the term “choice” does not help validate his wrongful assertion; hardly will anyone with a clear understanding in “choice” be persuaded by such misleading illusion.

It seems reasonable to conclude that choice abounds if one turns to the cliché saying “we are making choices everyday”: it is common sense that one can choose being stuffed or starved in the morning before going to work, or similarly, to get dressed in this or that way. On seeing such circumstances (but no the nature of choice) some people fervently contends that choice almost exists everywhere, as the author does. After all, aren’t we making choices, to some extent, almost anywhere, anytime?

Nonetheless, underlying such inference is the assumption, or rather, the superficial definition of choice, indicating that choice simply means “one or others”. No one will miss to cast doubt on this shallow description: are such choices choices?(什么意思?)

Far beyond the cursory portrait the author has taken for granted, choice in essence means to perform to one’s free will, which is fundamentally different from to(from->form) perform by oneself. The real choice is so idealistic(不太合适把) that it is seldom achieved. We make our own choices, to eat or to fast(看不懂呀) for instance, but not necessarily to our free wills (do we really want to do so or are we coerced?). The key point lies here. I encountered such a circumstance last year. Junior students in my department was(was->were) told that they are(时态好象不对) going to take a variety of optional courses but it turned out that one student must pick seven out of only eight available(缺courses) in order to save minimal credits in optional courses to graduate! Does anyone consider seven out of eight a kind of choice on seeing that free will was nearly eradicated?(结构比较乱呀) This is a case to extreme, and less dramatic circumstances are so widespread and commonplace that our daily life becomes a documentary recording how our free wills are humiliated.(这个例子不太贴切)

The absence of “making choices by oneself” is a circumstance that is very, very rare, while the absence of “making choices to one’s free will” is a circumstance that is extraordinarily prevalent. People are always in a situation just like a pile of paper to be stapled: they may choose, at most, the permutation as well as their position in the row, but no one can escape being bound up ------ regardless of whether they want to be so. More often than not, free will for escape is stifled in this way.

Thus, one can immediately recognize how naïve it is to propose a non-existent omnipresence of choice, or rather, how naïve it is to devaluate choice by saying so. Please stop saying(saying用的太频繁了,换一个词) that people are enjoying extensive choices whey they are still coerced to choose. Those choices are never of real choices; real choices are very rare. (491words)

imong 发表于 2004-3-16 00:23:33

Thank you very much.  

seven out of eight available是没问题的。
fast是斋戒的意思,就是不吃饭。

文法上面的问题不是主要的:内容上如何补足才是最关键的。

imong 发表于 2004-4-2 11:35:08

issue136 我同学看到我心血来潮版本后痛加驳斥之作

issue136 The absence of choices is a circumstance that is very, very rare.

In this increasingly completing contemporary society, people have been complaining for the seeming absence of choices in their daily life. However, the influences of the digital age is performed on the limitation, rather than their absence, of choices; indeed, the absence of choices is a case that is very, very rare.

Concerning the definition of choices, it is unreasonable to confine it to the superficial one as choosing one between the two. In that case, even the actions as deciding which apple to have for breakfast or which pair of shoes to enter your friend’s wedding become a kind of choice. Similarly, the definition as “act according to one’s free will” is a distortion because since the beginning of the human society, the absence of fulfilling one’s “completely” free will has been the base on which a stable and ordered society is built on. As the adage of Rousseau has suggested, the relatively freedom is the guarantee for the democracy, that is , the realization of the freedom of all the citizens in the nation. In consequence, the absence of this kind of choice is more than a method ensuring the stability. It is the demand of the welfare of the human beings. The concept of “choice” , in fact, is the availability of finding an alternative way to survive within the limited social environment.

Admittedly, social environment has set a standard for our life. We cannot decide which background we come from, which challenges we will face in the process of our life or can we eliminate the impress of the existing culture. For those inheriting deadly virus such as HIV, it is unfair since the pre-born conditions deprive them of choices available for any healthy person. Facing the fate, human beings are so powerless.

However, our common sense and the history offer us various examples for the positive side—we humans do have some power to change our life. In the beginning of the century, an African boy caught our sight. Inheriting HIV virus from his mother, his life seems out of choice for the disease deprived him of any opportunity in normal childhood. But this guy found an alternative way making his life meaningful; by means of standing up in front of the mass, he alleged for the equal treatment and strict restraints to drug and sexual relationship. This example of an initiative HIV carrier gives some light to this belief—if the God has closed the door cruelly, there must be an alternative window available.

Even for ordinary persons, the existence of choices is quite common. Someone may argue that their background or the environment they are fostered in force them to enter certain school, take certain major or enter a work place that is considered suitable to them. Then let us focus our attention on Bill Gates. A son of a middle class family, he gave up the degree in Harvard Uni. And opened his own business, which later became the superstar in the digital age. One could imagine the pressure he got in the beginning of his business, but his adherence paid him the prosperity of Microsoft.

The apparent absence of choices is actually the absence of one’s strong will. While one concedes the limitation of the existence of choices, choices do exist, if only we have not neglected the positive role we have on the destiny.

我的那个在这里:https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173225&highlight=issue136+%5Bb%5D%BC%AB%BA%B1%BC%FB
被告知看到我的文字写的很郁闷人,于是她有感而发,也写了一篇。

lionelchange 发表于 2004-4-6 15:45:15

从choice的定义下手
好象不是issue的风格啊
估计从内容上高分有点困难
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