cxqq2002 发表于 2004-3-20 17:58:24

求issue 102的思路,感激不尽

issue 102
For better of worse, education is a process that involves revising the ideas, beliefs, and values people held in the past.

dalloway 发表于 2004-3-20 18:19:46

呵,刚看过这个题

不光是修正,有破有立

jellyopps 发表于 2004-3-20 18:26:46


我觉得教育的作用肯定要从两方面来讲,一方面是传承传统,令一方面是对旧的知识的 批判,是不是可以从不同层次的教育来谈呢
不过感觉思路好像有点
老套,再想 :mad:

cxqq2002 发表于 2004-3-20 18:32:59

谢谢楼上二位,对这道题我想先谈教育一方面继承和发扬以前的知识,另一方面revise,这里我想从ideas, beliefs and values 三个方面谈。但是得具体分析教育为什么revise ideas, 比如说在前人成果的基础上独立思考,从而破旧立新,这个过程是否应详细叙述?

Liuna 发表于 2004-3-20 18:35:09

issue 102
For better of worse, education is a process that involves revising the ideas, beliefs, and values people held in the past.

outline;
position: agree, revising the ideas, beliefs, and values people held in the past is one the most important tasks of education.
1,  Eeveryone  has defects, so do their ideas and beliefs and values. No ideas and beliefs and values that we can totally sure to be right forever.example: Earth-center theory--> Sun-center theory-->infinite universe theory,  Quantum thoery-- > relativism thoery.

2, Education as an organization to teach ideas and beliefs and values is responsible to scrutinize them in details and point out what is wrong and what is right within the present knowledge level.

3,  The process that involves revising the ideas, beliefs, and values is also a cognition and recognition process. Recognition old ones through which discover new ones .

可能是胡说 只是个人想法而已

dezhi 发表于 2004-3-20 18:59:46

我现写了一个提纲,不知道行不行

P : Partly agree
1、为什么要修正:时代在发展,社会在进步,过去人们的观念想法都已经不再完全适合今天的形势了,所以我们要以今天的眼光,辩证的思路来重新审视这些观点想法,并修正之。
2、修正的结果:可以促使老师不断更新观念,并在修正过程中产生新的科研成果;对学生来说,可以学到符合当今时代特点的东西,毕业后可以胜任工作,满足社会的需要。
3、让步:要批判地继承,不能光批判而不继承,要明白人类的文明是在不断的积累的过程中进步的,否定过去就意味着倒退。牛顿巨人的肩膀~~~这个例子快要烂掉了,再想想......

ps:写完才发现这个提纲基本上就是jellyopps说的那个老套的思路,faint~~~~

cxqq2002 发表于 2004-3-20 19:48:18

6楼,请恕我针对你的提纲提个建议,可能是我思路打得不是很开,但我总觉得你没有说到点子上。我个人觉得这道题是让我们分析教育是否修正,而不是为什么要修正,修正的结果以及怎样修正。不好意思,这只是我的一点个人看法,仅供参考。
5楼,你的例子很好,还能想出关于修正beliefs and values的例子吗,谢谢。

鱼的宝贝 发表于 2004-3-20 20:50:12

我觉得教育的过程就是一个修正旧传统,旧观念的过程
1.教育的目的
于个人replace an empty mind with an open one,旧的东西怎么可以用于将来的工作中去。
于社会, preparing a new generation to operate the social machine,and form a uniform recognition of moral standard too keep the harmony circumstance of the society.
社会的进步需要新的理念和认识,教育者都知道这点,所以在不断的更新知识到课本中去。
2. 教育的确是在revising the sterotype of the old ones
从思想上,教导学生critical and logical thinking of the contributions of the scientists.
在教材上:compare the similarity of the old theories and the new ones, introducing up to date ideas and the hypothesis.
3.学生学会如何通过critical thinking 来revising the theories would help him/her to form a ablity to couple with the problems in the future.
和6楼的有一点相像呵,因为这个题不就是要说教育是一个修正的过程吗?有必要说要修正的目的是什么,为什么说它是一个修正的过程,这样做的后果,个人意见认为可行。再看看,再看看。
我觉得这个题和有一个题很像,一时想不起来了
ps,6楼的,你原来的icon很帅阿,怎么换成这个了,寒一个

chindychen 发表于 2004-3-20 21:34:58

六楼的想法是武汉新东方阿杜的推荐模式,即why--so--however 但是我觉得很难写出critical 的思想.所以我一般不用.( 其实大部分文章是可以套出来的, 说不定考场上没招了,还是会用的,呵呵阿杜老师不要扁我)
我的思路:
1. 传统的教育灌输给学生社会的整体信念价值. 这也是教育在最初阶段做到的.例:美国的品格教育(布什政府提出)
2. 每一个时代的价值观或多或少有所不同, 而教育也相应传递不同的思想.但是教育的思想是随社会而变,他自身很难修改社会的价值.(小日本想大同, no door!!)
3. 成功的教育会推动社会的改变.  例还没想好,总觉得启蒙运动那会儿有例子,再查查!

Liuna 发表于 2004-3-21 11:32:19

还能想出关于修正beliefs and values的例子吗,谢谢。

It is not a big deal to set examples. We can think what ETS gives us in many ways. Such as beliefs and values.
At first, I think it is very important to define what are beliefs and values.

Religious thoughts, such as Buddism and Catholicism and Puritanism and so on, can be called beliefs since the devotees of each one believe in something. Presently, we do not ask or claim to believe them anymore. So our beliefs in religious thoughts are being changed. Furthermore, besides religious thoughts, there are still many others, such as Falungong which has been verified to be heresy though there were many people believed into it. In this case, the belief is rectified.

As to values, much more cases are in point. 1 Value of the person. egoism-->altrulism 2 Value of the family multi-generation scale--> single-generation scale  3 Value of the community  survival-->comfortable-->super-->the best 4 Value of the county slavery-->monarchy-->stratocracy-->democracy  

hope those could help you in some way.
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