lovebrian 发表于 2004-4-7 10:18:56

issue181 [color=blue][b]pp3限时失败的产物[/b][/color]

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The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
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As the speaker claims, it is more a matter of personality than of training when students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields.  As far as I am concerned, I agree with that terms of view, while, sometimes training is an indispensable way to some extent.

On the one hand, people probably draw different conclusions when they observe and interpret the same materials since they have distinct personalities.  This is why at academic realms or some other fields, the students and scholar would point out different views concerning a same topic.  For example, when a gallant person begin to observe some materials for a research, he/she would have some kind of new view though such view might be considered as the one without sufficient evidence and demonstration by the other people whose personality contain more conventional and rounded mind.  And the latter, based on the same material, is bound to bring about some other kind of views which are more sufficient but quite conventional in general.  It is the case illustrating that personalities, usually different from each other for people, determine the views, conclusions and some interpretations in some sense.

On the other hand, some extent of constrictions should be put on personalities to prevent them from being so wild.  So training is also needed, otherwise people do things only by their personalities only to find that fault and mistakes are brought about increasingly than ever before.  It is because that personality relies too much on people’s sense and neglects some solid but proper and correct boundaries.  When scholars are doing an important research about explosive matters, different persons might have different views as is mentioned above.  Therefore, some "brave" man wants to operate such dangerous experiment out of the research constrictions only to his/her favor of the way in his/her mind.  Consequently, an accident would happen.  To avoid such accidents, training is indispensable in that a formal training could take persons into a formal way to do and to think since most of the ideas given by training are those which have been tested and demonstrated to be true.  One would have got a right direction and guidance after a good training though it is always against the wildest personality.

Accordingly, personality means creativity and variety, while training, to some extent, stands for the requirement of accuracy and experience.  That is to say, each of them has its strongpoint and the function of each could not be superceded by the other one.  Without personality, people might have the same mind and lack of creative power which is quite considerable in every field especially in academic realm.  Thus, the innovation of these fields is very likely to speed down as well as the improvement and development of the whole research and study.  At the same time, without training, formal and experienced thoughts and methods would get lost.  So people may do study, research and some other projects in a wrong way guided by their personalities more frequently.  There will be more accidents, more wrong doings and more waste of time and resources. The most lively and free mind of personality may lead people to a deep mire with a considerable amount of confusions and obstacles.  To be brief, only if the two are combined together, the work could go into a high way pointing to success.

To sum up, one should never consider that which one of the two, personality and training, is more a matter to have effect on interpretations and some other work in academic fields in that both of them have indispensable significant functions, and the functions of the two are quite different to replace each other.  Moreover, the combination of the two factors is the most efficient way toward a successful direction.(631)

sniper613 发表于 2004-4-7 10:48:04

------题目------
The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
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As the speaker claims, it is more a matter of personality than of training when students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields. As far as I am concerned, I agree with that terms of view, while, sometimes training is an indispensable way to some extent.

On the one hand, people probably draw different conclusions when they observe and interpret the same materials since they have distinct personalities. This is why at academic realms or some other fields, the students and scholar would point out different views concerning a same topic. For example, when a gallant person begin to observe some materials for a research, he/she would have some kind of new view though such view might be considered as the one without sufficient evidence and demonstration by the other people whose personality contain more conventional and rounded mind. And the latter, based on the same material, is bound to bring about some other kind of views which are more sufficient but quite conventional in general. It is the case illustrating that personalities, usually different from each other for people, determine the views, conclusions and some interpretations in some sense. 不同的人的看法不一样,我觉得可以举出一个很具体的事实,如伊拉克战争之类的,要比你这样泛泛而谈要好些

On the other hand, some extent of constrictions should be put on personalities to prevent them from being so wild wild在这好吗?. So training is also needed, otherwise people do things only by their personalities only to find that fault and mistakes are brought about increasingly than ever before. It is because that personality relies too much on people’s sense and neglects some solid but proper and correct boundaries. When scholars are doing an important research about explosive matters, different persons might have different views as is mentioned above. Therefore, some "brave" man wantssome man 单复数哦! to operate such dangerous experiment out of the research constrictions only to his/her favor of the way in his/her mind. Consequently, an accident would happen. what accident? 说清楚 To avoid such accidents, training is indispensable in that a formal training could take persons into a formal way to do and to think since most of the ideas given by training are those which have been tested and demonstrated to be true. One would have got a right direction and guidance after a good training though it is always against the wildest personality. 写了这么多,最后才引出training

Accordingly, personality means creativity and variety, while training, to some extent, stands for the requirement of accuracy and experience. That is to say, each of them has its strongpoint and the function of each could not be superseded by the other one. Without personality, people might have the same mind and lack of creative power which is quite considerable in every field especially in academic realm. Thus, the innovation of these fields is very likely to speed down as well as the improvement and development of the whole research and study. At the same time, without training, formal and experienced thoughts and methods would get lost. So people may do study, research and some other projects in a wrong way guided by their personalities more frequently. There will be more accidents 怎么这么多意外啊, more wrong doings and more waste of time and resources. The most lively and free mind of personality may lead people to a deep mire with a considerable amount of confusions and obstacles. To be brief, only if the two are combined together, the work could go into a high way pointing to success. 中心是把两个东东联系起来,但是你主要在分别说两个独立的情况,应该直接说透,两个联系起来有什么好处,尽量有正面的例子。

To sum up, one should never consider that which one of the two, personality and training, is more a matter to have effect on interpretations and some other work in academic fields in that both of them have indispensable significant functions, and the functions of the two are quite different to replace each other. Moreover, the combination of the two factors is the most efficient way toward a successful direction.(631)
你是在故意避免举例子吗?但是感觉你举了不少,但是很模糊,给人的感觉是想往下说,但是说不清。

lovebrian 发表于 2004-4-7 10:51:49

看来又走错极端了~~~例子又没了~~
没事没事~~离折衷的最佳写法不远了~~~~哈哈哈嘿嘿嘿

btw为什么some后面一定跟复数呢  some man不是也指“某人”吗?难道我又错了?

sniper613 发表于 2004-4-7 10:55:33

没见过,someone    somebody,这些不行啊

yifeng 发表于 2004-4-7 11:00:05

some有某某的意思,楼主用的是对的。但是我觉得例子最好具体些,才有说服力呀。不要某某了。

voxb 发表于 2004-4-7 11:14:38

先占个位, 有时间一定改完这篇,就作为我考前改的最后一篇别人的文章了~~~

needle 发表于 2004-4-7 11:33:45

占座

ArmArm 发表于 2004-4-7 12:16:09

真能写!

lovebrian 发表于 2004-4-7 12:16:44

看来是要具体点写个例子喽~~~谢谢同志们!
嘿嘿


最初由 voxb 发布
先占个位, 有时间一定改完这篇,就作为我考前改的最后一篇别人的文章了~~~
So touching...

needle 发表于 2004-4-7 13:59:35

------题目------
The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
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As the speaker claims, it [后面是when从句,那么it这里指代的是啥涅] is more a matter of personality than of training when students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields . As far as I am concerned, I agree with that terms of view[哦?可以这样用?疑问], while, sometimes training is an indispensable way [对way没有说明吗?] to some extent.[狒狒开头的立论我看的不是很明白。感觉好像对题目有误解。往下看看论证再说]

On the one hand, people probably draw different conclusions when they observe and interpret the same materials since they have distinct personalities. This is why at academic realms or some other fields, the students and scholar would point out different views concerning a same topic. For example, when a gallant person begin to observe some materials for a research, he/she would have some kind of new view though such view might be considered as the one [去掉as the one] without sufficient evidence and demonstration by the other people whose personality contain more conventional and rounded mind [这句够长….不过,读的好不顺当。而且,有自己的观点就一定是激进的?别人就一定是保守的?]. And the latter, based on the same material, is bound to bring about some other kind of views which are more sufficient but quite conventional in general. [更没有道理了。一个硬币的两面是对等的,反过来头一拨人对后一拨人观点的评价其实跟后一拨人看前一拨人一样的insufficient。还in general!武断了吧!] It is the case illustrating that personalities, usually different from each other for people, determine the views, conclusions and some interpretations in some sense. [干嘛不举具体的例子呢,尤其要紧扣着personality…举的例子又像在分析,又不够深刻,没有说服力。而且,背景students and scholars运用的也不好。]

On the other hand, some extent of constrictions [不准确,应该用restrictions,这两个词不是同义词。Restriction和circumscription一定程度是同义]  should be put on personalities to prevent them from being so wild. So training is also needed, otherwise people do things only by their personalities only to find that fault and mistakes are brought about increasingly than ever before[把training理解为限定限制?? 偏颇了!]. It is because that personality relies too much on people’s sense [谁说的?] and neglects some solid but proper and correct boundaries. When scholars are doing an important research about explosive matters, different persons might have different views as is mentioned above. Therefore, some "brave" man wants [这里把some当某个用?感觉怪怪的!不如当一些后面用复数] to operate such dangerous experiment out of the research constrictions[同上] only to his/her favor of the way in his/her mind[这是personality么]. Consequently, an accident would happen. To avoid such accidents, training is indispensable in that a formal training could take persons into a formal way to do and to think since most of the ideas given by training are those which have been tested and demonstrated to be true. One would have got a right direction and guidance after a good training though it is always against the wildest personality.[后面这两句对training总结得还不错。但是training的作用不仅仅是限定,狒狒好好思考一下。]

Accordingly, personality means creativity and variety, while training, to some extent, stands for the requirement of accuracy and experience. That is to say, each of them has its strongpoint and the function of each could not be superceded by the other one[是不是应该去掉one]. Without personality, people might have the same mind and lack of creative power which is quite considerable [当重要的讲么?好像还有很多比这个贴切的词] in every field especially in academic realm. Thus, the innovation of these fields is very likely to speed down as well as the improvement and development of the whole research and study. At the same time, without training, formal and experienced thoughts and methods would get lost. So people may do study, research and some other projects in a wrong way guided by their personalities more frequently. There will be more accidents, more wrong doings and more waste of time and resources. The most lively and free [这个限定不好,褒义的啊!怎么和后面的结果联系起来呢,试试看over/excessively/extremely] mind of personality may lead people to a[去掉a, mire不可数] deep mire with a considerable amount of confusions and obstacles. To be brief, only if the two are combined together, the work could go into a high way pointing to success.

To sum up, one should never consider that which one of the two, personality and training, is more a matter to have effect on interpretations and some other work in academic fields in that both of them have indispensable significant functions, and the functions of the two are quite different to replace each other[这一句还不如直接在上一句function前面加上and distinctive呢]. Moreover, the combination of the two factors is the most efficient way toward a successful direction.(631)

[对于training的理解不对,影响了全文。结构没什么问题。Training的重要性在于补充personality的缺陷:inevitable but unnecessary inclinations。对于personality的局限性讲得不够,所以training讲的也比较虚。狒狒总是很轻易的达到一个很不错的字数,羡慕ing
]

lovebrian 发表于 2004-4-7 15:18:14

最初由 needle 发布
is more a matter of personality than of training when students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields . As far as I am concerned, I agree with that terms of view[哦?可以这样用?疑问], while, sometimes training is an indispensable way [对way没有说明吗?] to some extent.[狒狒开头的立论我看的不是很明白。感觉好像对题目有误解。往下看看论证再说]

On the one hand, people probably draw different conclusions when they observe and interpret the same materials since they have distinct personalities. This is why at academic realms or some other fields, the students and scholar would point out different views concerning a same topic. For example, when a gallant person begin to observe some materials for a research, he/she would have some kind of new view though such view might be considered as the one [去掉as the one] without sufficient evidence and demonstration by the other people whose personality contain more conventional and rounded mind [这句够长….不过,读的好不顺当。而且,有自己的观点就一定是激进的?别人就一定是保守的?]. And the latter, based on the same material, is bound to bring about some other kind of views which are more sufficient but quite conventional in general. [更没有道理了。一个硬币的两面是对等的,反过来头一拨人对后一拨人观点的评价其实跟后一拨人看前一拨人一样的insufficient。还in general!武断了吧!] It is the case illustrating that personalities, usually different from each other for people, determine the views, conclusions and some interpretations in some sense. [干嘛不举具体的例子呢,尤其要紧扣着personality…举的例子又像在分析,又不够深刻,没有说服力。而且,背景students and scholars运用的也不好。]

On the other hand, some extent of constrictions [不准确,应该用restrictions,这两个词不是同义词。Restriction和circumscription一定程度是同义] should be put on personalities to prevent them from being so wild. So training is also needed, otherwise people do things only by their personalities only to find that fault and mistakes are brought about increasingly than ever before[把training理解为限定限制?? 偏颇了!]. It is because that personality relies too much on people’s sense [谁说的?] and neglects some solid but proper and correct boundaries. When scholars are doing an important research about explosive matters, different persons might have different views as is mentioned above. Therefore, some "brave" man wants [这里把some当某个用?感觉怪怪的!不如当一些后面用复数] to operate such dangerous experiment out of the research constrictions[同上] only to his/her favor of the way in his/her mind[这是personality么]. Consequently, an accident would happen. To avoid such accidents, training is indispensable in that a formal training could take persons into a formal way to do and to think since most of the ideas given by training are those which have been tested and demonstrated to be true. One would have got a right direction and guidance after a good training though it is always against the wildest personality.[后面这两句对training总结得还不错。但是training的作用不仅仅是限定,狒狒好好思考一下。]

Accordingly, personality means creativity and variety, while training, to some extent, stands for the requirement of accuracy and experience. That is to say, each of them has its strongpoint and the function of each could not be superceded by the other one[是不是应该去掉one]. Without personality, people might have the same mind and lack of creative power which is quite considerable [当重要的讲么?好像还有很多比这个贴切的词] in every field especially in academic realm. Thus, the innovation of these fields is very likely to speed down as well as the improvement and development of the whole research and study. At the same time, without training, formal and experienced thoughts and methods would get lost. So people may do study, research and some other projects in a wrong way guided by their personalities more frequently. There will be more accidents, more wrong doings and more waste of time and resources. The most lively and free [这个限定不好,褒义的啊!怎么和后面的结果联系起来呢,试试看over/excessively/extremely] mind of personality may lead people to a[去掉a, mire不可数] deep mire with a considerable amount of confusions and obstacles. To be brief, only if the two are combined together, the work could go into a high way pointing to success.

To sum up, one should never consider that which one of the two, personality and training, is more a matter to have effect on interpretations and some other work in academic fields in that both of them have indispensable significant functions, and the functions of the two are quite different to replace each other[这一句还不如直接在上一句function前面加上and distinctive呢]. Moreover, the combination of the two factors is the most efficient way toward a successful direction.(631)

[对于training的理解不对,影响了全文。结构没什么问题。Training的重要性在于补充personality的缺陷:inevitable but unnecessary inclinations。对于personality的局限性讲得不够,所以training讲的也比较虚。狒狒总是很轻易的达到一个很不错的字数,羡慕ing


嗯~~这篇~~偶都想删掉了~~ :mad:
字数没撒子意义的~~

needle JJ的句法~~555 学不来了
sigh

voxb 发表于 2004-4-7 15:24:14

needleJJ改得真细心,沸沸幸福呀!
偶大概看了一下也觉得有问题,一下没时间细改了,考完再多帮你看几篇吧~~~
偶的题库还没过完,奋斗ing~~~
但愿抽个好签!!!

needle 发表于 2004-4-7 15:26:59

My pleasure:)

祝福voxb.考完回来也别忘了帮我看文章。谢一个先。

lovebrian 发表于 2004-4-7 15:27:07

最初由 voxb 发布
needleJJ改得真细心,沸沸幸福呀!
偶大概看了一下也觉得有问题,一下没时间细改了,考完再多帮你看几篇吧~~~
偶的题库还没过完,奋斗ing~~~
但愿抽个好签!!!
voxbMM明天加油!!你可是个牛牛啊~~发挥出来就可以了!!
呵呵
加油 ;)

voxb 发表于 2004-4-8 17:00:20

一回学校就帮二位牛人看看,学习之~~~
加油~~~~~~~~~~!!!!
休息中~~~
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