Jonsoncao 发表于 2004-7-31 06:58:01

issue31 高频,有提纲

31"Money spent on research is almost always a good investment, even when the results of that research are controversial."

提纲:agree
论点:在研究上合理的投资就是好投资,即便是研究的结果有争议
1 有争议的研究一般对社会影响较大,所以研究它是有重大意义的
2 对一个特定学科研究的投资促进本身学科的发展还促进相关学科的发展
3 不能过度投资于研究忽略其他


I fundamentally agree with the author that the investment in research is beneficial and helpful to the society, even the results of that research are controversial, and with elaborate and rational investment plan, the results of the research would significantly contribute to social improvement in some aspects.

Firstly, in most cases, the money spent on controversial research is always good investment. Considering the research of which the results are controversial in the level of society, the connotation and denotation of this research always involve a magnitude of information and knowledge in a certain subject and the matters peripheral to it or even interlaced subjects, and this kind of research generally presents a influential and profound significance in the level of society or an extremely complicate and intricate structure in the level of the research itself. I have the point above due to regarding the following reason: If the research, I assumed, has a minor influence or display a effortless-analyzed structure, the experts working on it would be relatively easy to reach a common sense and there is little probability to exist radical divarication making the research controversial. Accordingly, investment in such kinds of research is good because its production, in the aspect of economics, has profitable characteristic. For instance, the study in the artificial intelligence usually arouses controversy because perhaps someday the machine would exceed its designer, or frankly, human beings. However, many results from the AI research has been utilized in the practical applications, such as intelligent office automated system and intelligent anti-error system, which would save the labor force, thus engendering the higher profit, in the social sight, facilitating the mankind.

Additionally, because of the characteristics the research, especially what can arouse controversy, the process of the study would, to a great extent, promote the subject peripheral to it, or more specifically, the research itself relates to some interlaced subjects, and as a predictable result, promote the improvement of the society. Nowadays, fewer and fewer subjects present isolated figures, whatever the communication among the branches internally or respective subjects. The research in a certain subject would possibly catalyse the advancement of other subjects, for example, Non-Euclid geometry accelerating the development of the relativity theory branches of physics, so one certain research actually exhibits a multi-faceted value among subjects. And truthfully, the research that could bring controversy would certainly play the role of catalyst as other researches, for instance, in the 60s, the research of the H-bomb, which was highly concerned by the public, aroused a wide controversy whether there should be mass destructive nuclear weapons, and disregarding these controversies, this research largely boosted the development of physics, even benefits the inner investigation of black hole. Considering the fact above, the investment in this kind of research maybe cannot profit apparently, however, it is foresighted.

Finally, we cannot ignoring that the society is composed of numerous indispensable elements, if we place too much emphasis on the investment in research, on the one hand, there would be a waste because the research itself maybe don’t demand that huge amount of money, on the other hand, too much investment in research would counteract the development of other foundational elements of the society, such as commerce, public transportation, and sanitation, etc.

In sum, if we place the money in research scientifically and rationally, even its results remain controversial, the effect of it is very positive and would promote the improvement of the society in many aspects. (574words / 100 mins)

Jonsoncao 发表于 2004-7-31 16:44:46

up以下

detail_yyy 发表于 2004-7-31 17:15:05

呵呵,今天刚刚思考过提纲

labor force劳动力可以这样说吗?not sure
插入语用的挺多的,用的不错

最后一段让步不太好,有点跑题,题目要求论证的是 研究,乃至有争议的研究是不是好的投资?
而你说的是我们不应该过分的在研究上投资

两段论证没能分明确,笼统的说都是对社会有极大的影响(学科的发展其实也是社会的一部分吧),我认为是不是从带来的经济利益和社会其他方面的影响这两方面来说更清晰,其实只需要把你的主题句换换就可以了,你认为呢?

个人意见,不对的请指出 :)

fenglinsheng 发表于 2004-7-31 19:07:03

Issue31
I fundamentally agree with the author that the investment in research is beneficial and helpful to the society, even the results of that research are controversial, and with elaborate and rational investment plan, the results of the research would significantly contribute to social improvement in some aspects.

Firstly, in most cases, the money spent on controversial research is always good investment. Considering the research of which the results are controversial in the level of society, the connotation and denotation of this research always involve a magnitude of information and knowledge in a certain subject and the matters peripheral to it or even interlaced subjects, and this kind of research generally presents a(an) influential and profound significance in the level of society or an extremely complicate and intricate structure in the level of the research itself.(楼主,这句也太长了吧,我建议用的少短点^_^) I have the point above due to regarding the following reason: If the research, I assumed, has a minor influence or display a(an) effortless-analyzed structure, the experts working on it would be relatively easy to reach a common sense(建议用consensus) and there is little probability to exist radical divarication making the research controversial. Accordingly, investment in such kinds of research(researches) is good because (of) its production, in the aspect of economics, has profitable characteristic. For instance, the study in the artificial intelligence usually arouses controversy because perhaps someday the machine would exceed its designer, or frankly, human beings. However, many results from the AI research has been utilized in the practical applications, such as intelligent office automated system and intelligent anti-error system, which would save the labor force, thus engendering the higher profit, in the social sight, facilitating the mankind.

Additionally, because of the characteristics (of) the research, especially what can arouse controversy, the process of the study would, to a great extent, promote the subject peripheral to it, or more specifically, the research itself relates to some interlaced subjects, and as a predictable result, promote the improvement of the society. Nowadays, fewer and fewer subjects present isolated figures, whatever the communication among the branches internally or respective subjects. The research in a certain subject would possibly catalyse the advancement of other subjects, for example, Non-Euclid geometry accelerating the development of the relativity theory branches of physics, so one certain research actually exhibits a multi-faceted value among subjects. And truthfully, the research that could bring controversy would certainly play the role of catalyst as other researches, for instance, in the 60s, the research of the H-bomb, which was highly concerned by the public, aroused a wide controversy whether there should be mass destructive nuclear weapons, and disregarding these controversies, this research largely boosted the development of physics, even benefits the inner investigation of black hole. Considering the fact above, the investment in this kind of research maybe cannot profit apparently, however, it is foresighted.

Finally, we cannot ignoring(ignore) that the society is composed of numerous indispensable elements, if we place too much emphasis on the investment in research, on the one hand, there would be a waste because the research itself maybe don’t demand that huge amount of money, on the other hand, too much investment in research would counteract the development of other foundational elements of the society, such as commerce, public transportation, and sanitation, etc.

In sum, if we place the money (capital) in research scientifically and rationally, even its results remain controversial, the effect of it is very positive and would promote the improvement of the society in many aspects. (574words / 100 mins)

写的不错呀,不过注意冠词的运用,还有单复数^_^尤其长句值得小弟学习^_^不过不知道ETS的老头们能不能一口气读5行^_^


我今天也写了一篇,有时间帮我看看,多谢了^_^https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=210853

nightsky2004 发表于 2004-8-1 12:24:28

一点拙见

I fundamentally agree with the author that the investment in research is beneficial and helpful to the society, even the results of that research are controversial, and with elaborate and rational investment plan, the results of the research would significantly contribute to social improvement in some aspects.具体是那些方面呢?
首段简洁的提出论点,完全赞成,接着看
Firstly, in most cases, the money spent on controversial research is always good investment. Considering the research of which the results are controversial in the level of society, the connotation and denotation of this research always involve a magnitude of information and knowledge in a certain subject and the matters peripheral to it or even interlaced subjects, and this kind of research generally presents a influential and profound significance in the level of society or an extremely complicate and intricate structure in the level of the research itself. I have the point above due to regarding the following reason: If the research, I assumed, has a minor influence or display a an effortless-analyzed structure, the experts working on it would be relatively easy to reach a common sense and there is little probability to exist radical divarication这里是不是有问题? making the research controversial.如何能事先判断结果对社会的影响大还是小呢?按照你的观点,你需要先说明一下,或者举出实例 Accordingly, investment in such kinds of research is good because its production, in the aspect of economics, has profitable characteristic. For instance, the study in the artificial intelligence usually arouses controversy because perhaps someday the machine would exceed its designer, or frankly, human beings. However, many results from the AI research has been utilized in the practical applications, such as intelligent office automated system and intelligent anti-error system, which would save the labor force, thus engendering the higher profit, in the social sight, facilitating the mankind.
这一段论点明确,就是感觉在一些地方缺乏必要的实例。毕竟,在研究之前,结果是未知的
Additionally, because of the characteristics of the research, especially what can arouse controversy, the process of the study would, to a great extent, promote the subject peripheral to it, or more specifically, the research itself relates to some interlaced subjects, and as a predictable result, promote the improvement of the society.这个句子好长呀,学习一下 Nowadays, fewer and fewer subjects present isolated figures, whatever the communication among the branches internally or respective subjects. The research in a certain subject would possibly catalyse catalyze the advancement of other subjects, for example, Non-Euclid geometry accelerating the development of the relativity theory branches of physics, so one certain research actually exhibits a multi-faceted value among subjects. And truthfully, the research that could bring controversy would certainly play the role of catalyst as other researches, for instance, in the 60s, the research of the H-bomb, which was highly concerned by the public, aroused a wide controversy whether there should be mass destructive nuclear weapons, and disregarding these controversies, this research largely boosted the development of physics, even benefits the inner investigation of black hole. Considering the fact above, the investment in this kind of research maybe cannot profit apparently, however, it is foresighted.
这段论点明确,论证也很有力,感觉不错
Finally, we cannot ignoring that the society is composed of numerous indispensable elements, if we place too much emphasis on the investment in research, on the one hand, there would be a waste because the research itself maybe don’t demand that huge amount of money, on the other hand, too much investment in research would counteract the development of other foundational elements of the society, such as commerce, public transportation, and sanitation, etc.段尾没有总结
这一段感觉没有很好的论证,可能因为时间吧
In sum, if we place the money in research scientifically and rationally, even its results remain controversial, the effect of it is very positive and would promote the improvement of the society in many aspects. (574words / 100 mins)
楼主文笔不错呀,语言表达能力挺好,比起我强多了,文章感觉不错,在某些细节方面再看看会更好的,赞一个。学习学习

Jonsoncao 发表于 2004-8-9 21:50:49

最初由 detail_yyy 发布
呵呵,今天刚刚思考过提纲

labor force劳动力可以这样说吗?not sure
插入语用的挺多的,用的不错

最后一段让步不太好,有点跑题,题目要求论证的是 [color=#ff0009..

以下省略......

我的论证就是从两方面来说:
一方面就是有很大的经济利益=〉是好投资
另一方面就是或许没有短期经济利益,但是长期来说就有=〉也是好投资
最后让步说什么时候不是好投资呢=〉当投资太多超过了研究可以创造的经济利益的时候
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