[未归类] 请问issue里能否举中国的例子 [复制链接]

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发表于 2008-7-27 14:27:17 |只看该作者

例子选择可以很多样的啊……说坚持不懈不怕失败最后成功就一定要说爱迪生么？

issue是有分类，但是针对每个题目也都想想这个题目的意思，别太过往一个题目上面去套……那样最后只能是同样例子说来说去的让人觉得很是厌烦。

太过中国的例子确实不是比较容易给阅卷人写，特别是一些有我们自己国情或是一个大的时代背景下的典型人物，更不容易表达好。但是并不是说简单例子就不能说明问题的。例子没有规定一定要名人名言或是“地球人都知道”的……只要简洁，能让阅卷人一下明白你自己观点，是你观点的绝妙佐证，就是好的。

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板凳

发表于 2008-7-27 17:47:47 |只看该作者

同感
写issue43的时候，想举宋襄公因仁丧师的故事，首先遇到的问题就是名号不会写。朋友给我的建议是就说a king in China怎么怎么就好了。我想也对，不是还鼓励编故事么，讲个真事只是忽略个小节应该没啥问题
要说他不知道，身边的事他更不知道，老美喜欢例子，举就好了吧:)

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发表于 2008-7-27 19:06:48 |只看该作者

汗LS，连宋襄公都冒出来了。。。
看你想用的是怎样的例子了，有些简单易懂的可以，太有中国特色的还是表照搬吧，比如像3楼说的宋襄公什么的，不过可以改成美国滴：
If we cast a look back at American history,Alex（我瞎掰的）,one of famous presidents,lost in one battel because of his mercy~
反正考官也没那个闲心去考证~~~~~:loveliness:

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发表于 2008-7-27 19:46:44 |只看该作者

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:L

这……

美国历史上就两次战争……打仗的总统真的很好考证……所以……一下就败了……

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发表于 2008-7-27 20:02:36 |只看该作者

恕我多罗嗦啊：

编个故事做例子其实不要紧，但是编故事也是要有讲究的。别人可以看出来这个编的确实很假，但是不至于假到一看就是随口现编的是吧……

比如啊，老友记里面有一个：rach的二妹jill要和ross约会，但是rach很反对嘛，就把她妹妹叫来说了一大堆～

Rachel: Yeah but, he’s not your type.

Jill: Yeah but maybe that’s a good thing. Y’know I’m doing all these different sorts of things, and maybe I should try dating a geek too!

Rachel: Yeah but, you don’t, you don’t, you don’t want to try to much too fast. Y’know? I mean, you do remember what happened to the little girl that tried to much too fast don’t you?

Jill: What?

Rachel: She-she died Jill.

注意看，蓝色部分是rach要劝说的，后面紧接着她就弄出来一个例子，但是这个例子一眼看了就知道是胡扯……呵呵……

所以说……例子选一定要慎重。给阅卷人觉得你是随便扯例子或是很牵强弄例子凑字数或是怎样，那，有这一点就足以限制分数不会高过3了……

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发表于 2008-7-27 20:03:09 |只看该作者

囧看来我需要恶补历史知识了，那干脆换成其他的国家好了~
总之不择手段最大限度地利用你知道的例子，只要不太离谱都可以，ETS在一定程度上其实还是比较好唬的~至少我是这么想的~

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发表于 2008-7-27 20:16:25 |只看该作者

Issue两点最核心的，一个是insightful的观点，另外一个就是例子～

例子真的是非常关键的一个部分，一篇文章的主体全在这了。好的例子能充分发挥自己观点，使得观点生动活泼，有说服力，引起读者共鸣并对观点有极好的诠释。高分也是在这里发现的。

同时，例子选择也是很多样的，自己的观点自己选择例子，也就是看出来这个人水平如何。其实这也是ETS考AW要看出来的。以后做paper啊啥的，都是需要这种能力的。

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发表于 2008-7-27 22:12:36 |只看该作者

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看来什么都要慎重啊。。。

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发表于 2008-7-27 23:25:26 |只看该作者

……我的结论就是那我们干嘛要离开中国……
:o :o :o :o :o

还是说中国的一个国王好了，不然就说欧洲某邦国……不知道欧洲人讲不讲这套

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发表于 2008-7-27 23:40:32 |只看该作者

为什么不能举中国的？我觉得举中国的很好啊，让他看出来没准还能有意外效果。如果遇到翻译不过去的，就用拼音，然后括号里面说明一下是个什么东西---

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发表于 2009-3-8 12:57:51 |只看该作者

顶一个，想了很久这问题

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发表于 2015-10-28 20:34:47 |只看该作者

我也觉得可以准备尝试

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发表于 2015-10-29 14:25:25 |只看该作者

楼主所说的外国的那么几个例子，估计大部分时候都是不能很好的适用于issue的具体问题的。选例子的原则是适合你要论述的观点，哪个国家都无所谓。不过，讨论中国的例子要注意意识形态，毕竟美国人的意识形态和我们在中国受的教育是不太一样的。比如，在美国人眼里毛泽东是和斯大林、希特勒一样的『大魔头』。因此，你写这类例子的时候要考虑不同文化背景的读者的观感。

你可以看看我写的issue 60
用了两个中国的例子但是美国考官应该会认可我的看法

issue 60范文

Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

model-essay

Any politicians who care about the interest of the people they serve should try to pursue the goals that are shared by the majority of the society rather than ideals that are hard to realize. I will illustrate my position with the stories of three political figures: Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping and Barack Obama.

Despite his considerable contribution to building a new China, Mao Zedong had caused a great deal of suffering to the Chinese people and led to many tragic events in modern Chinese history due to his unrealistic political ideals. In late 1950s, he launched the so-called Great Leap Forward movement with the romantic thinking that China can surpass the economic powers such as the US and UK in a few years. As a result of his grave mistakes, the Chinese economy suffered and millions of people died from starvation during the three-year famine from 1960 to 1962. Also thanks to his poetic vision that young people in the city should be re-educated by the rural people, millions of teenagers who can barely take care of themselves were forced to separate from their parents and spend years in the countryside. An entire generation of Chinese people lost their opportunities to receive formal education and the nation also suffered from a lack of human resources vital for its economy. Mao made all these unforgivable mistakes because he did not consult his colleagues at all when making decisions.

Fortunately, Deng Xiaoping, the successor of Mao, was a more pragmatic leader. With less power and charisma, Deng focused on building consensus and finding common ground within the Communist Party after he took the power. The most important consensus at the time was that the country needed to recover from the mess created by Mao and focus on the economic development. Through the introduction of open door policy and the privatization of the rural economy of China, Deng successfully rejuvenated the Chinese economy and lifted millions of Chinese people out of poverty. By taking a more practical approach to politics and focusing on the common ground of the Chinese society, Deng gained more support and respect from both Chinese people and the international community.

A more recent example to support my thesis is the incumbent President of the United States, Barack Obama. One of the key accomplishments of Obama administrations is the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Through Obamacare, millions of Americans, who are previously uninsured, are now covered by health insurance through the federal financial incentives provided by the legislation. If we look more closely at the legislative history of Obamacare, we can see that during the process of pushing for Obamacare, President Obama was always seeking common ground in a Congress that was dominated by GOP politicians. For example, in order to win support from the Senate controlled by the Republicans, Obamacare does not provide health insurance for abortions. Ideally, of course, the rights to abortions should be recognized in Obamacare. But to pass the law, compromise had to be made.

As illustrated through the stories of three political figures, politicians should always pursue the goals that reflect the common ground and the consensus of the majority. Deng and Obama are exemplary figures of such pragmatic approaches. The tragedies caused by Mao, on the other hand, underscore the danger and folly of pursuing elusive political ideals.