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寄托兑换店纪念章 新任版主 2016 US-applicant

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看到很多大神过来积极回答,我决定这个问答帖子就长期有效了,大家现在可以自由问题,我懂得我就回答,不懂得等大神们来给你回答。
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先说一下主要加拿大的商学院,美国懂的部分也可以解答,要是欧亚部分的商学院选择问题我了解不多没法解答

然后关于职业发展的,金融的包括金工,部分管理咨询的,商业分析的,其他的不是我专业方向和兴趣就没办法说的好了

最后背景交代一下,本科,研究生均是加拿大的,美国伯克利交流一学期,目前在加拿大 Baystreet 实习中,美国也实习过,主
要做分析职位,个人兴趣是投资金融方向
追梦北美

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寄托16周年纪念勋章 2016 US-applicant

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发表于 2016-8-13 10:26:52 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Iann 于 2016-8-13 15:54 编辑

恭喜斑竹!
正好想要申请北美的金工和商业分析方向,求问几个问题。

我的背景情况是:
国内211财经类本硕,均分85/100,木海外交流木牛推木论文,相关工作经验三年。
准备混申北美MFE/BA/STAT方向的硕士,读完短期职业目标是在金融机构工作几年,长期职业目标是读博走学术路线,如果读硕期间能直接找到博的机会一步到位就更好。

我的主要问题是:
1)定位问题。因为工作几年,身边也木有一同申请的小伙伴,不知道我的背景主申哪个排名段的学校比较合适?
2)先修课程问题。由于这几个方向都需要较好的数理背景,而我刚进大学的时候作死有两门数学课低空飘过,不知道对申请学校的影响大不大?或者说有哪些死控数学分的我可以不用去奢望的学校?
3)专业方向问题。我知道我的长短期职业目标比较纠结,面向就业的项目和面向读博的项目有着本质的区别,除了MFE算是勉强两相兼顾以外(但排除数学要求高不敢去的和学费特别高不能去的以外就木有几所了),BA基本只能顾前者,STAT又基本只能顾后者。因此想求问一下,LZ有木有见到过反例,也就是BA后读博或是STAT后去金融机构工作的情况?或者有什么别的能兼顾短期就业和长期读博跳板的方向和项目么?
4)就业方向问题。以斑竹所在的加拿大为例,不知道北美金融机构开放给硕士学生的entry-level的职位都有哪些?是主要集中在quant和ib领域,还是也有比较多进入buy side的机会?
5)几个加拿大项目的问题。加拿大的项目里灰常心水多大MMF/MFE和水卢MQF,但听说这几个项目很难申请到,想请问这三个项目特别看重的主要是哪些方面?我目前的背景有木有希望冲一冲?以及还有哪些现在可以提高的地方?最后,有木有什么别的加拿大的好项目求推荐?

灰常感谢斑竹!祝实习顺利升职加薪^ ^

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发表于 2016-8-13 16:18:06 |显示全部楼层
4plus1 发表于 2016-8-13 01:39
捧场捧场!
我来问几个和自身相关的问题吧。
交代一些些背景:

1. math/stat and programming is not a must for most division.

2. suggest you dont waste time on python. master VBA first. much easier and much more application.

3. tons of roles in finance indeed. imagine what compliance, equity research and etc... will ask for.

4. Phil major is not a problem indeed. who gonna read a MSF if one has a good bachelor in business / economics / other related discipline? They are in the market already.
CFA will help show your interest a bit.

5. difficulties: language, culture, network, location.
limited length of (1-year) OPT is also a concern.
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Iann 发表于 2016-8-13 10:26
恭喜斑竹!
正好想要申请北美的金工和商业分析方向,求问几个问题。


1. please list out the math/stat course (that are taken in the science / engineering faculty) you had taken (and the grade)

2. If I am the ad com, I will ask: why wanna PhD?

P.S.
those program that are suitable for PhD preparation are all mathematical and academical, which require the applicant to have a very good math background for them. I wonder if you have that or not.

Given your previous working experience, I guess you stand a better chances for those that are more practical (and less mathematical at the same time). They are good preparation for your career, but not an academic one.

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发表于 2016-8-13 23:49:12 |显示全部楼层
cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-13 16:20
1. please list out the math/stat course (that are taken in the science / engineering faculty) yo ...

Thanks so much for your suggestion, my bg is:
1. Math/stat course: single variable calculus, 80+; multivariable calculus, 65+; probability, 70+; linear algebra, 90+; statistics, 80+; econometrics, 90+. They're all undergraduate level courses.
2. Because of personal interest...well, I know it's not a persuasive answer. Maybe I should take a practical program first, and then do something more acdemical while study?

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4plus1 发表于 2016-8-13 23:39
太感谢!那就先从office里的各种VBA学起吧~至少现在我大概有一个方向了,不像本科时候完全不知道往哪儿去 ...

1. excel VBA.

2. yes, legal background is favored a bit in compliance. same logic for acct & fina in equity research

3. "equity research的确是我毕业以后的主要目标方向吧。所以我也辅助申MKT,希望侧重MKT research方面。" <---- sorry but i really want to laugh. make sure you know what "market" means respectively before applying......

4. 1-year OPT = you dont have much time to search for an internship after graduation. you have to start networking and searching right from the day you arrive.
it also means that very likely the company will hire such an internship for some simple and supporting task (打雜). This will add a line to your CV, but that's all.

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Iann 发表于 2016-8-13 23:49
Thanks so much for your suggestion, my bg is:
1. Math/stat course: single variable calculus, 80+; ...

without any advanced applied math and stat course, I am pretty sure that you don't have any idea about how those research in "financial engineering, big data and etc." looks like, and thus this is not persuasive at all.
I guess you will lose you interest in PhD very soon.

at the same time, taking a practical program is your only choice. your grade, and coverage in math/stat course are far from enough for an academics program.
(FE: where is your stochastic process, numerical, differential equation and etc...
Stat: where is multivariate, inference, time series, and also a bit CS like data structure for the computational side)

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发表于 2016-8-14 20:24:15 |显示全部楼层
cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-14 17:28
without any advanced applied math and stat course, I am pretty sure that you don't have any idea a ...

Thank you so much to tell me the tough truth. Yes, I know that I'm not a typical applicant for academic programs because of my grade, my math/CS courses, my paper/research experience and so forth. However, I still wanna know if there is a chance for me to try. I mean, for most of the practical programs have locked curriculums, I have no idea how can I take those advance courses if I cannot come into an academic program? Will it helpful if I take these advance courses on MOOC before apply?
On the other side, I know that I should pay more attention to practical programs. For the practical oriented financial engineering and business analytic programs,  which tier of programs do you think will fit me? Thanks a lot for your time and advice.

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Iann 发表于 2016-8-14 20:24
Thank you so much to tell me the tough truth. Yes, I know that I'm not a typical applicant for aca ...

1. interested in XYZ =/= interested in researching XYZ

2. 萬物有時. 人生有些時候, 當年沒有做的, 之後就補不回了 (因為成本太高)
要補回math/stat background, MOOC (with accreditation) 固然有效, 但係你缺的不少(you have next to zero advanced math/stat course, i.e. you need the workload next to an entire major), part-time可能是最少兩年時間........

3. don't mean that you have to PhD next life. what I mean is that your chances is slim, and you have to pay much more effort than others in catching that up.
make sure you are really so interested in that, and willing to pay the price (time and money) for it.

4. A fixed curriculum practical MFE wont provide you enough math for PhD research for sure. Be ready to audit some other maths lesson. The program is useful for you to get know to more professor and get their support in application. (know more about research frontier, possibly some research project and reference letter, and etc.).
well, indeed a very important question is.............can you really able to handle such a quantitative master easily, and have the extra time to do all these additional stuffs.

5. for BA, I am not sure. for FE, apply for US tier 2 and tier 3 program that's offered from the business / engineering school, or eqv elsewhere. (which is around US top 6 - 20). Tier 1 is wasting application fee, tier 4 is wasting tuition fee.

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发表于 2016-8-15 22:50:36 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Iann 于 2016-8-15 22:51 编辑
cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-15 02:59
1. interested in XYZ =/= interested in researching XYZ

2. 萬物有時. 人生有些時候, 當年沒有做的, ...


谢谢前辈金玉之言,果然现在流下的泪都是当年脑子里进的水,不过总算还可以把握好现在,不让后之视今亦如今之视昔

btw, US top 6 -20 means a general rank in usnews or a mfe rank in quantnet?

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Iann 发表于 2016-8-15 22:50
谢谢前辈金玉之言,果然现在流下的泪都是当年脑子里进的水,不过总算还可以把握好现在,不让后之视今亦 ...


who fuxking about a general ranking for a specialized master?
(don't stick 100% to the quantnet one too...)

some more extension on FE:
I guess you don't stand any chance for Canadian one (Toronto MMF and Water MQF are all mathematical, and others are.....good luck given the size of the financial market)
for UK, try IC RMFE, may also UCL Computational Fina, other useful ones are mostly in math department.

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2016 US-applicant

发表于 2016-8-17 17:55:58 |显示全部楼层
恭喜版主,顺便捧场,求建议!
先介绍下本人背景:

国内双非知名财经院校HR本科,均分大概85/100,4年大国企, 3年500强外企HR经验,现职位HR经理,想去美帝读个书,之后计划转咨询或HR咨询。

咨询版主两个问题:
1. 是读MBA还是继续HRM好?
2. 如果追求Top MBA或者Top HRM项目,GT大概要刷到多少比较有把握?
3. 如果追求Top MBA或者Top HRM项目,还有别的需要特别注意的么?
4. 欢迎拍砖,并求中肯建议。

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lucky010 发表于 2016-8-17 17:55
恭喜版主,顺便捧场,求建议!
先介绍下本人背景:

for curiosity, which US Top HRM项目 is not a MBA?

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