UChicago MACSS +Oxbridge

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哈哈镜2333 发表于 2017-3-14 10:38
个人感觉如果LSE不是EME的话，phd跳板还是选UChi MAPSS。

Oxbridge可能会给你带来一些心理上的光环但是为 ...

美国在发达国家里只能算是个二三流的墨黑人口国家。
所以英国和美国在文科留学的环节里根本不是一个级别，美国名校经济系里只能以亚洲和南美学生为主。
而英国名校的经济系里，主要以北美，澳洲，欧洲的学生为主。
尤其是政法经专业，从硕士到博士，博士到工作的这两个环节里。
美国整体落后英国的学校不是一星半点的，除了铁心回大陆或者台湾，否则肯定是英国名校优先的。

因为OX有罗兹奖学金校友，OX校友包含美国的总统和现任3位美国最高院大法官，用OX举例子是欺负美国。就以LSE的留学校友为例吧，LSE在发达国家的影响力根本不是美国这种国家的哈佛芝加哥所能比拟的：

美国人
Arash Aramesh, Lawyer, Political and National Security Analyst
Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State in Reagan Administration; Senior Director of the National Security Council in Bush Administration
Donald Baer, White House Director of Communications and Strategic Planning in Clinton Administration
Valerie Lynn Baldwin, Assistant Secretary of the Army (Financial Management and Comptroller), Bush Administration
Bill Blythe, former Republican state representative from Harris County, Texas, 1971 to 1983
Michael Chertoff, United States Secretary of Homeland Security, Bush Administration; US Attorney, Bush Sr. and Clinton Administrations
Colm Connolly, United States Attorney, Bush Administration
Lauchlin Currie, White House Economic Adviser to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Rosa DeLauro, Democratic Member of the US House of Representatives
Edwin Feulner, President of the Heritage Foundation Think Tank
Stanley Fischer, Vice Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System[7]
William Gale, Council of Economic Advisers, Bush Administration
Eric Garcetti, Mayor, Los Angeles
Marc Grossman, U.S. Under-Secretary of State, Bush Administration; US Ambassador to Turkey, Clinton Administration; Special Advisor to the President on Near East Affairs, Carter Administration
Orval H. Hansen, Republican Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
Alice Stone Ilchman, Assistant Secretary of Education and Cultural Affairs under US President Jimmy Carter
Bruce Jentleson, International Affairs Fellow, Council of Foreign Relations; Senior Foreign Policy Advisor to Vice President Al Gore
Bruce Katz, former Chief of Staff, US Department of Housing and Urban Development; Vice President, Brookings Institution
Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., first son of Joseph Kennedy and elder brother of John F. Kennedy
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., environmental activist, son of Senator Robert Kennedy
Vanessa Kerry, Democratic activist and daughter of Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
Ron Kind, Democratic Member of U.S. House of Representatives
Mark Kirk, Republican Member of the U.S. Senate
Susan Lindauer, ex-Congressional aide accused of assisting Iraqi intelligence prior to the 2003 invasion
Edward Luttwak, Consultant to the US National Security Council, State Department and Defence Department; Economist; Historian; Senior Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
James McGreevey, former governor of New Jersey
Brad Miller, Member of the US House of Representatives
Richard H. Moore, North Carolina state treasurer
Daniel Patrick Moynihan, US Senator
Ethan Nadelmann, founder and executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance
Peter R. Orszag, Special Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, Senior Economist, Council of Economic Advisors, Clinton Administration; Fellow of the Brookings Institution; Professor, Georgetown University, Congressional Budget Office Director, Director designate Office of Management and Budget
Tan Parker, member of the Texas House of Representatives
Alice Paul, American suffragist
Richard Perle, Assistant Secretary of Defense, Reagan Administration; Chairman of Defense Department Advsory Committee, Bush Administration; fellow, American Enterprise Institute
F. Whitten Peters, Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C.
David Rockefeller, former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank; Chairman/Honorary Chairman, the Council on Foreign Relations; Chairman/Honorary Chairman, the Trilateral Commission
Pete Rouse, White House Chief of Staff, Obama Administration
James Rubin, Assistant Secretary of State, Clinton Administration; lead foreign policy adviser to John Kerry campaign
Robert Rubin, U.S. Treasury Secretary and Director, National Economic Council, Clinton Administration; Director of Goldman Sachs
Rajiv Shah, USAID Administrator, Obama Administration
Robert Shapiro, Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs, Clinton Administration; Fellow of Harvard University; Fellow of National Bureau of Economic Research
Mona Sutphen, current White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy
John Tower, U.S. Senator
Paul Volcker, Chairman of Federal Reserve, Carter and Reagan Administrations; US Treasury Under-Secretary, Nixon Administration; President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
David Welch, Assistant Secretary of State, Clinton Administration; US Ambassador to Egypt, Bush Administration
Kimba Wood, U.S. Federal Judge; Attorney General Nominee
Dov Zakheim, Under-Secretary of Defense, Bush and Reagan administrations
加拿大人
Ed Broadbent, Leader of the New Democratic Party of Canada, 1975-1989
John Crosbie, Lieutenant-Governor of Newfoundland and Labrador, former Cabinet minister
Jean-Yves Duclos, Canadian Liberal MP, Canada's Minister of Families, Children and Social Development
Brian Greenspan, barrister
Hal Jackman, former Lieutenant-Governor of Ontario
Michael Ignatieff, Leader of the Liberal Party 2008-2011
Joy MacPhail, former finance minister and deputy premier of British Columbia
Marc Mayrand, Chief Electoral Officer of Elections Canada, 2007–present
David McGuinty, Member of Parliament, Liberal Party
Catherine McKenna, Canadian Liberal MP, Canada's Minister of Environment and Climate Change
Bill Morneau, Canadian MP, Canada's Minister of Finance, 2015–present
Jacques Parizeau, Premier of Quebec, 1994–1996
Svend Robinson, former Canadian MP; first openly gay Canadian politician in major political party
Gregory Selinger, Premier of Manitoba, 2009–present
Mitchell Sharp, former Canadian Minister of Finance
Paul Zed, Member of Parliament for Saint John, New Brunswick
欧洲
Georgios Alogoskoufis, former Minister for Economy and Finance, Greece
Prince Amedeo of Belgium
Rubina Berardo, Member of the Portuguese Assembly of the Republic
Frits Bolkestein, Dutch politician and former EU Commissioner
Joe Bossano, Chief Minister of Gibraltar
Lykke Friis, Minister for Climate and Energy, Denmark
Prince Haakon Magnus, Crown Prince of Norway
Patrick Janssens, Mayor of Antwerp (2003–2012); MP Flemish Parliament, Chairman Flemish social democrats (SP) (1999–2003), Belgian MP Chamber of Representatives (2003–2004)
Jan Kavan, former President of the United Nations General Assembly, member of the Czech Parliament, former Foreign Minister and Deputy Prime Minister of the Czech Republic
Ursula von der Leyen, Minister of Defence, Germany
Ivan Mikloš, Minister of Finance of Slovakia
Franz Neumann, first Chief of Research of the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal
érik Orsenna, former economist and advisor to François Mitterrand, member of the Conseil d'état and of the Académie française, 1988 Prix Goncourt
Giorgos Papakonstantinou, former Minister for Finance of Greece
Jacek Rostowski, Minister of Finance, Poland
Jonas Gahr Støre, Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs
Zdeněk Tůma, Governor of Czech National Bank
August Zaleski, twice Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland
Memli Krasniqi, Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Rural Development of the Republic of Kosovo
澳洲人
Tim Barnett, Member of the Parliament of New Zealand
Peter Coleman, Journalist and conservative politician
Bill Hastings, Chief Censor of New Zealand, judge
Robert Hill, Defence Minister
Christian Porter, Treasurer and Attorney-General of Western Australia
Gordon Reid, Governor of Western Australia and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Western Australia
Peter Shergold, Secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet
Stephen Smith, Foreign and Defence minister
Tim Watts, Labour MP
Penny Wong, Labour MP and Minister

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共由 发表于 2017-3-14 09:29
不是我说，你这个判断下得太有偏了吧…

你说学校名气上CAM OX大于LSE UCHI没毛病。你说专业上Cam能跟Ox和 ...

不可能第一次听说，因为两国社会环境的差距很大。
很直观的移民结构，尤其是发达国家移民去向肯定更倾向英国。
美国的主要移民来源国家：
1,Mexico      
2,India        
3,China        
4,Philippines        
5,Cuba        
6,Dominican Republic        
7,Vietnam        
8,South Korea        
9,El Salvador        
10,Iraq        
英国的主要移民来源国家：
1,India        
2,Poland
3,Pakistan        
4,Republic of Ireland
5,Germany        
6,Bangladesh
7,South Africa
8,Nigeria
9,United States
10,China

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rx1920 发表于 2017-3-14 18:45
美国在发达国家里只能算是个二三流的墨黑人口国家。
所以英国和美国在文科留学的环节里根本不是一个级别 ...

移民的问题我没了解过不敢随便发声，但是楼主既然是以申Phd为努力方向的，那么我暂时默认楼主是想去academia了。那么不管国籍和出身，应该实力才是根本，paper才是硬通货吧？

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rx1920 发表于 2017-3-14 18:45
美国在发达国家里只能算是个二三流的墨黑人口国家。
所以英国和美国在文科留学的环节里根本不是一个级别 ...

比校友的话搬出芝加哥的诺奖就可以说明问题了吧。

比较美国和OxBridge的影响力，看结果吧。chicago，harvard的econ phd去OxBridge任教的，比OxBridge的econ phd去chicago，harvard任教的要多得多 也容易的多吧。。。

可否请问一下您是什么背景，从什么渠道了解到chicago比OxBridge差的呢？

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恭喜楼主，个人情况能多分享点吗

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big Cong!想问问楼主是直接用托福申请的LSE吗~

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      首先恭喜LZ，讲真乍一看觉得，凭LZ的实力，若工作，日后留在London并非“极难”之事，那两个国家的城市（London vs NYC, LA, etc.）相较，我觉得London并不是一个“次好”选择，而是一个更好的选择（个人看法）；若深造+教职，那等Master就读一段时间之后再选择是否更换新环境也未尝不可。

      大家觉得美帝好是不是有一个前提：美帝有更多的机会，而且是accessible to us的（或者笼统点说美帝更好留下来）。因为感觉LZ太牛了所以默认很多腐国留学的“短处”在LZ这应该不成问题，才提这样的建议。当然，怎么选择都是好的选择呀哈哈，谁是最优解谁是次优解只能提前预判嘿嘿。

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共由 发表于 2017-3-1 20:04
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