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作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-23 19:41:38     标题: OFFER选择，港大MFIN 科大MSIM，求前景分析

本帖最后由 cuhkken 于 2015-1-24 13:39 编辑

楼主不才，没能力申FT，申的PT。
港大金融
科大Investment management/financial management(如果选科大，应该会选financial management-security analysis方向)

完全不相关背景，CFA在考，日后想做证券基金分析师/风险管理。
想请问各位大神前辈哥哥姐姐弟弟妹妹帮忙分析分析哪个program对我这个职位目标的未来前景比较好。

目前手里信息：
港大：
学费贵（只有CFA2级以上才豁免课程，但宣讲会上说必须选别的课来满足学分）
学生多（100多号人，家里人说同学多以后资源广。。。）
偏quantative(课程安排上看起来是很多数理内容，甚至教EXCEL用VBA建模，还有专门的数学课。但也有人说这些也只是皮毛，金融类要大量计算的也应该请金融数学之类的人，不会请金融学的人。本屌私以为其实学数学，淘宝一大堆视频可以买来看吧。)
学两年
有HKUST的前辈说HKU的校友网确实广一点儿。而且港大牌子响，无论回国还是怎样。
课程如下：


科大：
学费稍微便宜
学生少（40-50人，尤其PT很多在职的）
感觉课程比较基础，比较宽泛，也许不深入，不知道日后工作是否够用。
学1.5年。（这个很有优势，延长再久学费也不会变。）
本地人心中，科大商学院秒杀全亚洲，这也算是小优势。
课程如下：



申请加了科大MSIM的群，但是群主好像没甩我，难道歧视我PT。。。

也许很多人会说港中科三所都差不多，但因为本屌丝是非相关背景，目标明确，而且年龄不小了，不想留遗憾。还请大家给点意见。非常感谢。

祝周末愉快：）
作者: ___vita.sy.J    时间: 2015-1-24 01:23:14

LZ是正在香港工作？
【日后想做证券基金分析师/风险管理】做投资分析师的话那确实数学要比较强了，港大会更对口点儿
可LZ又是【完全不相关背景】。。请问曾经是什么专业或者做什么类型的工作？数理比较强的工科到是还行，要是个文科类的。。去港大这个了读起来不会很苦逼么。。
作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-24 11:40:52

___vita.sy.J 发表于 2015-1-24 01:23
LZ是正在香港工作？
【日后想做证券基金分析师/风险管理】做投资分析师的话那确实数学要比较强了，港大会更 ...

正在香港工作。
大学和第一个硕是文科类。
但其实高中理科类啦，我倒是不担心数学累，对自己这方面还是小有自信。
现在工作是市场营销，也包含了很多数据分析的方面，其实还好。
。O(∩_∩)O谢谢你的回复
作者: phoebeD    时间: 2015-1-24 12:59:44

cuhkken 发表于 2015-1-24 11:40
正在香港工作。
大学和第一个硕是文科类。
但其实高中理科类啦，我倒是不担心数学累，对自己这方面还是 ...


金数好玩啊，去学金数吧

总之金数就是关于各种random walk，linear operator和stochastic calculate的分析啦。楼主上课之前可以先看看Rudin的Real and complex analysis打好基础，然后学这些就很轻松啦
作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-24 13:29:22

phoebeD 发表于 2015-1-24 12:59
金数好玩啊，去学金数吧

总之金数就是关于各种random walk，linear operator和stochastic calculate ...

:O好的谢谢，会关注一下。谢谢建议：）
作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-24 15:45:26

作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-24 22:35:33

顶一下。
作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-1-25 00:16:22

啊啊啊，好像很少人关注啊- -。各位大虾请帮帮忙给点建议。。。
作者: 江米糕    时间: 2015-2-8 11:21:06

楼主，请问你面试大概都会问到哪些问题啊？会有技术面吗？
另外，有必要穿正装吗？

非常感谢！！！
作者: ^-^儱尐爺恆    时间: 2015-3-19 19:18:41

想问楼主港大MSF的免修和豁免到底是个什么情况啊？
作者: cuhkken    时间: 2015-3-23 22:06:37

^-^儱尐爺恆 发表于 2015-3-19 19:18
想问楼主港大MSF的免修和豁免到底是个什么情况啊？

只听了宣讲会，只粗略讲了一下有这个功能。
最终选的科大，所以可能要去问问港大的同仁咯。。。sorry
作者: hkusthk    时间: 2015-3-23 22:16:13

看我名字就知道选科大不后悔了
作者: cheesechan    时间: 2015-3-23 22:45:57

本帖最后由 cheesechan 于 2015-3-23 22:50 编辑

given "大学和第一个硕是文科类", one is very very unlikely to handle the quantitative stuffs.
VBA is just a joke if one is on the quantitative side.
at the end, HKU MFin is not really fully a MFE, and it is not really quantitative enough for a quantitative role.

given "如果选科大，应该会选financial management-security analysis方向", it is quite clear that OP is more on the security analysis side, i.e. the HKUST one is a better one for that.

P.S.
"本屌私以为其实学数学" <--- that's so true, no wonder "本屌"......
"淘宝一大堆视频可以买来看吧。" <----- just do it? mathematics is indeed the subject that is one of the most difficult to be self-learnt.
"高中理科类" <--- and thus? so what? ........when you compare with mathematics in senior bachelor Level, those in 高中 is really like.......um........very very fundamental.
作者: cheesechan    时间: 2015-3-23 22:47:25

本帖最后由 cheesechan 于 2015-3-23 22:51 编辑
^-^儱尐爺恆 发表于 2015-3-19 19:18
想问楼主港大MSF的免修和豁免到底是个什么情况啊？


no 免修和豁免 indeed.

if you get CFA Level 2 already, you will be "exempted" from the first 4 course, but you still have to make up the same number of required course as others by choosing more advanced electives.


Kind of good policy in sense that one wont have to repeat things that can be learnt and proofed by CFA, and learning more advanced Topics.
作者: treemantan    时间: 2015-3-24 12:06:58

cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-23 22:45
given "大学和第一个硕是文科类", one is very very unlikely to handle the quantitative stuffs.
VBA is ...

大前辈，真是哪里都见得到你啊，您的回答估计吓住LZ了，LZ既然选择了Finance，而不是数学，就不用想做Quant类相关的吧。。。个人理解，大数学，还是非常依赖于自学的吧（不做纯粹理论上研究的数学知识，正常人花一定时间系统的学习应该都能有一定的理解，当然有没有这个时间和毅力就因人而异了）；但像我们这些一般人还是必要有人指点指点（正规教育的课程设置也一般有其合理性），交流交流，不然很难通透，所以私以为某宝还是没有那么靠谱吧~~~~~~~~
作者: cheesechan    时间: 2015-3-24 16:20:14

treemantan 发表于 2015-3-24 12:06
大前辈，真是哪里都见得到你啊，您的回答估计吓住LZ了，LZ既然选择了Finance，而不是数学，就不用想做Qua ...

所以我覺得樓主是搞不掂數學，但也根本不用搞定之……
所以我也認為樓主當去ust. 不過做風管的話，沒legal沒math background的話，估計做到good position難度頗大……and thus will be better to focus on securities analysis.
作者: Herrlee    时间: 2015-3-24 20:07:56

cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-23 22:47
no 免修和豁免 indeed.

if you get CFA Level 2 already, you will be "exempted" from the first 4 ...

多谢大神指导！
但是我有在官网的项目主页上有看到免修和豁免，好像免修有相关项目的成绩要求。。。。。。。
作者: cheesechan    时间: 2015-3-25 18:30:02

本帖最后由 cheesechan 于 2015-3-25 18:32 编辑
Herrlee 发表于 2015-3-24 20:07
多谢大神指导！
但是我有在官网的项目主页上有看到免修和豁免，好像免修有相关项目的成绩要求。。 ...

http://www.sef.hku.hk/postgradprog/master_finance/faq.php

Can I apply for exemption and/or advanced standing?

Exemption on core course may be granted if candidates can produce evidence, such as transcript and course syllabus, that a course is equivalent in content to another course taken elsewhere for which a satisfactory grade has been obtained. No credits will be given for the exempted course and candidates shall be required to take an approved alternative course.

Advanced standing of up to maximum of four courses may be granted if candidates can provide evidence, such as transcript and course syllabuses, that they have taken equivalent courses at a graduate, postgraduate or master level from a recognized programme elsewhere with a satisfactory grade or possess a relevant professional qualification which was obtained before entering the programme. In such cases, no replacement courses will be required and the tuition fees will be adjusted accordingly.   

Candidates applying for advanced standing should have achieved a good grade in the course within the last four years. Course exemption and advanced standing are subject to the approval of the MFin Programme Director.   



according to the website, you are correct, but it seems a bit different from what I was told by a couple of friend, according to the info session.


maybe a bit out of expectation, I am really doubt that the offical website is the wrong one.......it is quite strange that "Exemption", by graduate course, is required to take additional course, but "Advanced Standing", can be by graduate course or prof qualification, is not required to take additional course. This simply doesn't make sense......
作者: Herrlee    时间: 2015-3-25 20:23:59

cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-25 18:30
according to the website, you are correct, but it seems a bit different from what I was to ...

貌似CFA三级的知识量差不多相当于国外金融本硕的知识量，所以我猜测Advance Standing应该是需要CFA三级并且成绩应该要优秀，Exemption应该CFA二级就可以了。
作者: cheesechan    时间: 2015-3-25 20:32:08

Herrlee 发表于 2015-3-25 20:23
貌似CFA三级的知识量差不多相当于国外金融本硕的知识量，所以我猜测Advance Standing应该是需要CFA三级并 ...

I will disagree, since exemption can only be granted by course in other master, but not professional qualification

"Exemption on core course may be granted if candidates can produce evidence, such as transcript and course syllabus, that a course is equivalent in content to another course taken elsewhere for which a satisfactory grade has been obtained."

P.S. in general, a MSF wont cover CFA III, but only up to II:
1. III is indeed easier than II, at least academically
2. III is indeed kind of more practical, and thus most master won't cover that.



In details:

what I guess is with a CFA II, one can apply for Advanced Standing" ("or possess a relevant professional qualification"), and "No credits will be given for the exempted course and candidates shall be required to take an approved alternative course.".

and if one had a master before, then one can apply for Exemption, "produce evidence, such as transcript and course syllabus" (which is a more strict requirement) and "In such cases, no replacement courses will be required and the tuition fees will be adjusted accordingly.

It is quite obvious that the requirement of Exemption is much stricter than Advanced Standing, and thus it is not reasonable that the more difficult one will reward less....
作者: zaiwen88    时间: 2015-4-16 12:28:22

求楼主背景～感觉很多相似
作者: 皮肤可以哦    时间: 2015-7-4 19:00:29

求HKUST MSCIM 的群号~~~



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