抛开现象看本质 ［die in flames］ ISSUE 科技类 idea pool

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抛开现象看本质  ［die in flames］ ISSUE 科技类 idea pool
［output version］

［abstract］
die in flames 小组的同学们～经历了上周的 ISSUE乘以3 的血洗之后，大家想必对ISSUE 科技类感悟颇深吧～
anyway，为配合本周同时进行的 ECO＆TIME100阅读积累活动， 让大家在input的同时享受output的快感，这里特发此帖，号召大家把阅读中的积累实实际际的应用到题目中来～

BEGIN right now！

［part 1］科技类  ISSUE题目

119"When research priorities are being set for science, education, or any other area, the most important question to consider is: How many people's lives will be improved if the results are successful?"

30"The primary goal of technological advancement should be to increase people's efficiency so that everyone has more leisure time."

7、"The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record of contemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentation than written records."

69"Government should place few, if any, restrictions on scientific research and development"

88"Technologies not only influence but actually determine social customs and ethics."

66"As people rely more and more on technology to solve problems, the ability of humans to think for themselves will surely deteriorate."

107"Instant communication systems encourage people to form hasty opinions and give quick replies rather than take the time to develop thoughtful, well-reasoned points of view."

114"Humanity has made little real progress over the past century or so. Technological innovations have taken place, but the overall condition of humanity is no better. War, violence, and poverty are still with us. Technology cannot change the condition of humanity."

115"It is through the use of logic and of precise, careful measurement that we become aware of our progress. Without such tools, we have no reference points to indicate how far we have advanced or retreated."

124"Instant foods, instant communication, faster transportation-all of these recent developments are designed to save time. Ironically, though, instead of making more leisure time available, these developments have contributed to a pace of human affairs that is more rushed and more frantic than ever before."
针对30

129"Technology is a necessary but not always a positive force in modern life."

135"While most of the environmental problems we face result from the use of technology, society must depend upon technology to find solutions to these problems."

150"Because of television and worldwide computer connections, people can now become familiar with a great many places that they have never visited. As a result, tourism will soon become obsolete."
同7

196"Technology creates more problems than it solves, and may threaten or damage the quality of life."

219"Now that computer technology has made possible the rapid accessing of large amounts of factual information, people are less likely than ever to think deeply or originally. They feel unable to compete with—much less contribute to—the quantity of information that is now available electronically."

233"Although innovations such as video, computers, and the Internet seem to offer schools improved methods for instructing students, these technologies all too often distract from real learning."

237"Computers and video technology can make facsimiles of original works such as paintings and historical documents available to everyone. The great advantage of this new technology is that it will enable anyone—not just scholars—to conduct in-depth research without having access to the original works."

［part 2］运行方案

1。配合ECO阅读积累贴（之前B开的那个阅读贴https://bbs.gter.net/thread-936856-1-1.html），这段时间着重去看TIME100的科技类文章
http://www.time.com/time/time100/scientist/index.html
文章全文细节分析（语言，用词等积累）在那个帖子进行，最好贴原文，方便整理～
文章事例的应用 在此处分析， 务必 ！  针对以上的题库内容展开。

跟帖格式按照 所涉及科技内容－－－对应ISSUE 题号   后叙述如何应用进文章。当然中英亦可～英文当然更欢迎～～

2。对前期写作的总结。
注意！不要把单纯的丢提纲！
这里我们是针对一个类别进行分析，所以要带着全局思想，思考题目以外的东西，有什么深挖得到的东西都可以帖上来讨论。注意共性，全局性。
社会，历史，个人。时间空间的思考，etc。。
帖个东西给大家点启示～
http://www.xslx.com/htm/zlsh/xfzx/2004-03-05-16257.htm
http://news.163.com/09/0406/08/5670KIKE0001124J.html
跟帖格式按照  思考－－－适用题号   然后叙述，要求同上。

3。题目分析
这个最好一个帖子完成。对题目进行关键字提取，简述自己对此问题逻辑链的认识。

跟帖格式    题目分析    然后叙述，要求同上。
另外，此帖建议大家根据阅读情况时时更新～

新增任务~！
4.好词佳句大收集~~
大家在互改过程中发现写的好的就丢过来吧~~注明谁写的，是哪篇文章的~~


注意结合此帖：https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?s=&;threadid=206718
吸收其为我们所用～～嘿嘿～～

［part 3］奋斗

加油～为了自己的Logic和AW～ FIHGTING～


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此帖严禁占楼！！！违者扣钱！！！

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汇总

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呃。。。我也来汇总个楼好不。。。别扣钱呃。。。

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放几个我觉得有些启发性的例子：

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI

Artificial intelligenceFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  (Redirected from AI)
Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Artificial intelligence (disambiguation).
"AI" redirects here. For other uses, see Ai.
Artificial intelligence (AI) is the intelligence of machines and the branch of computer science which aims to create it. Major AI textbooks define the field as "the study and design of intelligent agents,"[1] where an intelligent agent is a system that perceives its environment and takes actions which maximize its chances of success.[2] John McCarthy, who coined the term in 1956,[3] defines it as "the science and engineering of making intelligent machines."[4]
The field was founded on the claim that a central property of human beings, intelligence—the sapience of Homo sapiens—can be so precisely described that it can be simulated by a machine.[5] This raises philosophical issues about the nature of the mind and limits of scientific hubris, issues which have been addressed by myth, fiction and philosophy since antiquity.[6] Artificial intelligence has been the subject of breathtaking optimism,[7] has suffered stunning setbacks[8] and, today, has become an essential part of the technology industry, providing the heavy lifting for many of the most difficult problems in computer science.[9]
AI research is highly technical and specialized, so much so that some critics decry the "fragmentation" of the field.[10] Subfields of AI are organized around particular problems, the application of particular tools and around longstanding theoretical differences of opinion. The central problems of AI include such traits as reasoning, knowledge, planning, learning, communication, perception and the ability to move and manipulate objects.[11] General intelligence (or "strong AI") is still a long term goal of (some) research.[12]

Contents

1 Perspectives on AI
1.1 AI in myth, fiction and speculation 1.2 History of AI research
• 1.3 Philosophy of AI
2 AI research
2.1 Problems of AI
2.1.1 Deduction, reasoning, problem solving 2.1.2 Knowledge representation 2.1.3 Planning 2.1.4 Learning 2.1.5 Natural language processing 2.1.6 Motion and manipulation 2.1.7 Perception 2.1.8 Social intelligence 2.1.9 Creativity
• 2.1.10 General intelligence
2.2 Approaches to AI
2.2.1 Cybernetics and brain simulation 2.2.2 Traditional symbolic AI 2.2.3 Sub-symbolic AI 2.2.4 Statistical AI
• 2.2.5 Integrating the approaches
2.3 Tools of AI research
2.3.1 Search and optimization 2.3.2 Logic 2.3.3 Probabilistic methods for uncertain reasoning 2.3.4 Classifiers and statistical learning methods 2.3.5 Neural networks 2.3.6 Control theory
• 2.3.7 Specialized languages
2.4 Evaluating artificial intelligence
• 2.5 Competitions and prizes
3 Applications of artificial intelligence 4 See also 5 Notes 6 References
6.1 Major AI textbooks 6.2 History of AI
• 6.3 Other sources
7 Further reading
• 8 External links

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A record number of Japanese people worked themselves to death last year despite a government campaign to ease the country's notorious office hours.

Some 355 workers fell severely ill or died from overwork in the year to March, the highest figure on record and 7.6 percent up from the previous year, the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Labour said.

Of the total, 147 people died, many from strokes or heart attacks.

Death from overwork grew so common during Japan's post-World War II economic miracle that a word was coined for it, "karoshi."

The government has tried to address the problem by promoting telecommuting and encouraging workers to take leave when they start families or need to care for elderly parents.

Critics point to the rising number of part-time jobs, saying new employees lack the security that would allow them to resist pressure to overwork.

Another 819 workers contended they became mentally ill due to overwork, with 205 cases given compensation, according to the ministry data released on Wednesday.

Mentally troubled workers killed themselves or attempted to do so in 176 cases, of which a record 66 cases were found eligible for benefits, the ministry report said.

The number of Japanese who killed themselves because of work jumped 52 percent last year, while work-induced mental illness also hit a record high, according to Health Ministry official Junichiro Kurashige.

Japan's suicide rate is among the highest in the industrialized world. More than 32,000 people took their own lives in 2004, most of them older people suffering financial woes as the country struggled through a decade of economic stagnation.

The Japanese government has earmarked substantial budget for programs to help those with depression and other mental illnesses.

过劳死问题~（还没总结 先发上来~不好意思啊 今天事太多了）

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera

A video camera is a camera used for electronic motion picture acquisition, initially developed by the television industry but now common in other applications as well. The earliest video cameras were those of John Logie Baird, based on the electromechanical Nipkow disk and used by the BBC in experimental broadcasts through the 1930s. All-electronic designs based on the cathode ray tube, such as Vladimir Zworykin's Iconoscope and Philo T. Farnsworth's Image dissector, supplanted the Baird system by the 1940s and remained in wide use until the 1980s, when cameras based on solid-state image sensors such as CCDs (and later CMOS active pixel sensors) eliminated common problems with tube technologies such as burn-in and made digital video workflow practical.
Video cameras are used primarily in two modes. The first, characteristic of much early television, is what might be called a live broadcast, where the camera feeds real time images directly to a screen for immediate observation; in addition to live television production, such usage is characteristic of security, military/tactical, and industrial operations where surreptitious or remote viewing is required. The second is to have the images recorded to a storage device for archiving or further processing; for many years, videotape has been the primary format used for this purpose, but optical disc media, hard disk, and flash memory are all increasingly used. Recorded video is used not only in television and film production, but also surveillance and monitoring tasks where unattended recording of a situation is required for later analysis.
It is also interesting to see the emergence of pocket video camera using flash memory, they could become the iPod of digital cameras.
Modern video cameras have numerous designs and uses, not all of which resemble the early television cameras.

• Professional video cameras, such as those used in television and sometimes film production; these may be studio-based or mobile. Such cameras generally offer extremely fine-grained manual control for the camera operator, often to the exclusion of automated operation.
• Camcorders, which combine a camera and a VCR or other recording device in one unit; these are mobile, and are widely used for television production, home movies, electronic news gathering (including citizen journalism), and similar applications.
• Closed-circuit television cameras, generally used for security, surveillance, and/or monitoring purposes. Such cameras are designed to be small, easily hidden, and able to operate unattended; those used in industrial or scientific settings are often meant for use in environments that are normally inaccessible or uncomfortable for humans, and are therefore hardened for such hostile environments (e.g. radiation, high heat, or toxic chemical exposure). Webcams can be considered a type of CCTV camera.
• Digital cameras which convert the signal directly to a digital output; such cameras are often extremely small, even smaller than CCTV security cameras, and are often used as webcams or optimized for still-camera use. These cameras are sometimes incorporated directly into computer or communications hardware, particularly mobile phones, PDAs, and some models of laptop computer. Larger video cameras (especially camcorders and CCTV cameras) can also be used as webcams or for other digital input, though such units may need to pass their output through an analog-to-digital converter in order to store the output or send it to a wider network.
• Special systems, like those used for scientific research, e.g. on board a satellite or a spaceprobe, or in artificial intelligence and robotics research. Such cameras are often tuned for non-visible light such as infrared (for night vision and heat sensing) or X-ray (for medical and astronomical use).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document
A document (noun) is a bounded physical representation of body of information designed with the capacity (and usually intent) to communicate. A document may manifest symbolic, diagrammatic or sensory-representational information. To document (verb) is to produce a document artifact by collecting and representing information. In prototypical usage, a document is understood as a paper artifact, containing information in the form of ink marks. Increasingly documents are also understood as digital artifacts.
Colloquial usage is revealed by the connotations and denotations that appear in a Web search for document. From these usages, one can infer the following typical connotations:

• Writing that provides information person's thinking by means of symbolic marks.
• A written account of ownership or obligation.
• To record in detail; "The parents documented every step of their child's development".
• A digital file in a particular format.
• To support or supply with references; "Can you document your claims?".
• An artifact that meets a legal notion of document for purposes of discovery in litigation.

The variety of usage reveals that the notion of document has rich social and cultural aspects besides the physical, functional and operational aspects.

Contents[hide] 1 Conceptualization in analytical philosophy 2 Empirical characterization 3 Social aspects of documents 4 Functional characteristics 5 Classical roles and workflows in document production 6 Document production technology 7 Document life cycle management technology 8 The document economy 9 Future of documents 10 See also 11 References

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思考---总体科技类问题联系图

大家有好的想法就拿去改哈~画图板。。

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Bioethics之Issue题库乾坤大挪移（未完待续）全部分析：https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=939651&page=1&extra=
全部来源于wiki上关于bioethics的搜索。这些可以做为244篇issue文章之至少200篇的例子和事例。具体的我会慢慢都发上来，今天先挪移了前70篇。
Wiki上有关生物伦理学的资料：

中文简介：

生命倫理學關注的是生物學、醫學、控制論、政治、法律、哲學和神學這些領域的互相關係中產生的問題。對於涉及生物學的議題相應該接受多少道德判斷的尺度，存在著很大的爭議。有些生命倫理學家會將道德判斷的尺度縮限在醫療或科技發明的道德上，以及對人體實施醫療的時間點上。有些生命倫理學家則會將道德判斷的尺度擴大到施加在會感到恐懼和痛苦的生命體的一切行為上。
生命倫理學牽涉到許多公共政策的問題，這些問題時常被政治化，用來影響選民的立場。因此有些生物學家和從事科技發展的人會認為只要提到「生命倫理學」就是在企圖妨礙他們的工作，並因此對它產生反彈，不過事實上並非如此。像超人類主義（transhumanism）的生物學家就可能會抱持這樣的心態，他們認為他們的工作在本質上是道德的，並且批評生命倫理學是在誤導大眾。

• 英文介绍：
  Areas of health sciences that are the subject of published, peer-reviewed bioethical analysis include:
  Abortion Animal rights Artificial insemination Artificial life Artificial wombAssisted suicideBiopiracy Blood/blood plasma (trade) Body modification Brain-computer interface Chimeras Circumcision Cloning Confidentiality(medical records) Consent Contraception (birth control) Cryonics Disability Eugenics Euthanasia (human, non-human animal) Feeding tubeGene therapy Genetically modified foodGenetically modified organism Genomics Great Ape Project Human cloning
  Human enhancement Human genetic engineering Iatrogenesis Infertility (treatments) Life extension Life support Lobotomy Medical malpractice Medical research Medical torture Moral obligation Nanomedicine Organ donation (fair allocation, class and race biases) Pain management Parthenogenesis Patients' Bill of Rights Placebo Population control Prescription drugs (prices in the US) Procreative beneficence Professional ethics Psychosurgery Quality of Life (Healthcare) Recreational drug use Reproductive rights Reprogenetics Sperm and eggs (donation) Spiritual drug use Stem cell research Suicide Surrogacy Transexuality Transhumanism Transplant trade Xenotransplantation
  
  Bioethics is the philosophical study of the ethical controversies brought about by advances in biology and medicine. Bioethicists are concerned with the ethical questions that arise in the relationships among life sciences, biotechnology, medicine, politics, law, philosophy, and theology.
  
  History
  Although bioethical issues have been debated since ancient times, and public attention briefly focused on the role of human subjects in biomedical experiments following the revelation of Nazi experiments conducted during World War II, the modern field of bioethics first emerged as an academic discipline in the 1960s. Technological advances in such diverse areas as organ transplantation and end-of-life care, including the development of kidney dialysis and respirators, posed novel questions regarding when and how care might be withdrawn. These questions often fell upon philosophers and religious scholars, but by the 1970s, bioethical think tanks and academic bioethics programs emerged. Among the earliest such institutions were the Hastings Center (originally known as The Institute of Society, Ethics and the Life Sciences), founded in 1970 by philosopher Daniel Callahan and psychiatrist Willard Gaylin, and the Kennedy Institute of Ethics, established at Georgetown University in 1971. The publication of Principles of Bioethics by James F. Childress and Tom Beauchamp—the first American textbook of bioethics—marked a transformative moment in the discipline.
  During the subsequent three decades, bioethical issues gained widespread attention through the court cases surrounding the deaths of Karen Ann Quinlan, Nancy Cruzan and Terri Schiavo. The field developed its own cadre of widely-known advocates, such as Al Jonsen at the University of Washington, John Fletcher at the University of Virginia, Minnesota, Glenn McGee at SUNY Albany, Jacob M. Appel at Brown University, Ruth Faden at Johns Hopkins University, and Arthur Caplan at the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. In 1995, President Bill Clinton established the President’s Council on Bioethics, a sign that the field had finally reached an unprecedented level of maturity and acceptance. President George W. Bush also relied upon a Council on Bioethics in rendering decisions in areas such as the public funding of embryonic stem-cell research.【政府的看法】
  
  Purpose & Scope
  The field of bioethics addresses a broad swath of human inquiry, ranging from debates over the boundaries of life (eg. abortion, euthanasia) to the allocation of scarce health care resources (eg. organ donation, health care rationing) to the right to turn down medical care for religious or cultural reasons. Bioethicists often disagree among themselves over the precise limits of their discipline, debating whether the field should concern itself with the ethical evaluation of all questions involving biology and medicine, or only a subset of these questions. Some bioethicists would narrow ethical evaluation only to the morality of medical treatments or technological innovations, and the timing of medical treatment of humans. Others would broaden the scope of ethical evaluation to include the morality of all actions that might help or harm organisms capable of feeling fear and pain, and include within bioethics all such actions if they bear a relation to medicine and biology. However, most bioethicists share a commitment to discussing these complex issues in an honest, civil and intelligent way, using tools from the many different disciplines that "feed" the field to produce meaningful frameworks for analysis.
  Principles
  One of the first areas addressed by modern bioethicists was that of human experimentation. The National Commission for the Protection of Human Subjects of Biomedical and Behavioral Research was initially established in 1974 to identify the basic ethical principles that should underlie the conduct of biomedical and behavioral research involving human subjects. However, the fundamental principles announced in the Belmont Report (1979)--namely, autonomy, beneficence and justice--have influenced the thinking of bioethicists across a wide range of issues. Others have added non-maleficence, human dignity and the sanctity of life to this list of cardinal values.
  Perspectives & Methodology
  Bioethicists come from a wide variety of backgrounds and have training in a diverse array of disciplines. The field contains individuals trained in philosophy such as Peter Singer of Princeton University and Daniel Brock of Harvard University, medically-trained clinician ethicists such as Mark Siegler of the University of Chicago and Joseph Fins of Cornell University, lawyers such as Jacob Appel and Wesley J. Smith, political economists like Francis Fukuyama, and theologians including James Childress. The field, once dominated by formally trained philosophers, has become increasingly interdisciplinary,【学科间的交流】 with some critics even claiming that the methods of analytic philosophy have had a negative effect on the field's development. Leading journals in the field include the Hastings Center Report, the Journal of Medical Ethics and the Cambridge Quarterly of Healthcare Ethics.
  Many religious communities have their own histories of inquiry into bioethical issues and have developed rules and guidelines on how to deal with these issues from within the viewpoint of their respective faiths. The Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths have each developed a considerable body of literature on these matters. In the case of many non-Western cultures, a strict separation of religion from philosophy does not exist. In many Asian cultures, for example, there is a lively (and often less dogmatic, but more pragmatic) discussion on bioethical issues. Buddhist bioethics, in general, is characterised by a naturalistic outlook that leads to a rationalistic, pragmatic approach. Buddhist bioethicists include Damien Keown. In India, Vandana Shiva is the leading bioethicist speaking from the Hindu tradition. In Africa, and partly also in Latin America, the debate on bioethics frequently focusses on its practical relevance in the context of underdevelopment and geopolitical power relations.
  
  
  
  
  

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米饭提纲：
正方：我们应该把e作为tech ad的首要目的---》为什么呢----》因为这样人们就能有更多的l time了
反方，我不同意这个看法，从两个角度来说
1、攻击对方漏洞（攻击别人的错误）
因为有更多l time所以就应该把e作为首要目的的推理本身就有问题，不能支持你的论点。

（1）理由就有逻辑错误：e≠》更多l time（而且题目里说everyone）
人类的欲望是无穷无尽的，e有了，好，可以生产更多了，但人们还想要更多的更多，于是，l time不但没增多反而可能减少。
（2）而且e的提高并不能使everyone都受益，e提高以后，也许老板觉得雇佣更少的工人就可以了，那剩下的每个工人的工作量反而会增大。
2、陈述我方看法（提出自己的理由）
（1）tech ad是为了什么？
从人类最原始的tech ad来找这个初衷：比如人类学会制造工具那会儿，捕猎时，一开始就是用石头木头砸向猎物之类的，但后来发现石头可以被打磨地很锋利，木头也可以被削成棒状
，这就是一种tech ad，为什么要这样做呢？因为这样可以命中率更高，对猎物更具有杀伤力，从而补到更多的猎物，一家人从此可以不用饿肚子了。
也就是说，tech ad的目的是让人更好地适应环境，让被ad的tech更好地服务于人，而如果把e作为tech ad的首要目的是无法实现这些的，或者说，e只是tech ad根本目的的一个方面而已，若如对方所说，tech ad所能实现的就太少了，是不利于人类发展的。
（2）人们在tech ad的同时需要与自然社会达到一种和谐统一，这样才能真正发挥tech ad的作用。
但若把e作为其首要目的，会导致急功近利的tech ad，是不利于这种和谐统一的。比如，我们在汽车上进行tech ad，好，我们把e作为首要目的，那就是尽量提高车速呗，别的方面都靠边儿，那公路上将会越来越危险，大家都开着飞车不出事儿才怪。再比如，我们现在要在捕鱼船上进行tech ad，e是我的首要目的啊，那就是用一切办法让捕鱼效率提高呗，但那样过几年人类就再也捕不到鱼了。
3、延伸，我方认为什么should be 首要目的（这点还没仔细想，觉得对反驳对方作用不大，我们不能用“应该是什么”==》“不应该是什么”，所以，这点可以略写甚至不写，但写上是不是可以体现思维的全面性？）


cmj意见：
1这个不是arg，是说明你自己的观点，不是所谓的漏洞吧。。这个。个人意见
（1）要点出要得多导致工作量上升所以blablabla，点破为上。
（2）这个我没想过，但是这个说法有点不太妥，总觉得这个事情太微观了，跟这个题目比起来。一会儿再具体讨论。
2。我怎么觉得是为了填报肚子。。当然这里确实提高了e，毕竟他们捕猎的效率高了。只能说e的提高是为了满足肚子需求的途径。
（2）这不错，我都没想那么多～很好很好～
3。其实你之前已经把should说了阿～2（2）  
恩，琢磨了下2（2）的第一个例子不太合适。
法律规定速度其实也可以算作对整体成员e提高的表现把。。  
你想事故一多不就经常堵车了，不久米e了
额，换个剥削自然的例子  水土流失
社会方面最好避免。我觉得
因为这里是要给everyone的福利
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米饭想法：
其实偶是盗取了B对7的一些想法~---------------对于动态的事件的记录 video 很强 对于人们思想和思考，doc 占优势
然后偶又延伸了个combine
比如战争记录片，光有个战场的镜头啥也看不懂，必然要配合文字说明
所以，这两个不分伯仲
cmj补充：
而且题目所说的accurate也不一定。尼斯湖，刺杀林肯。。
所以也不能convincing  
我不会写成攻击的，我只是说明它的特点并非那么样  
因为这个是推出more的条件额
cmj的深挖~（超级好）：
record的历史意义之类的
应该还是可以挖的。doc可以衍生为文字
这个文字历史可是好久了。
我觉得这题很麻烦的一个地方在于怎么定义record of com life
定义好了 这题也就出来大半了。
记录生活就包括每天做的事情看见的啥＋所思所想，全都是life，全部record的话也很可怕／／／  
怎样才算一种好的记录方式呢?
video
不停的拍，不知道重点。到最后再重新选出重点
written
只记录感触最深的  
writen的话可以涉及com life以前的东西 可以在时间上有一个回溯  
另外video还有个问题，到底是谁用v记录谁。。。  
written的话能够全面的反应com的价值观，审美观，面面观。
v的话，只是记录现在的事实。
记录的目的是什么？remind ？reconstruct?
那么就是能够帮助自己回忆起的就是好的？还是能够让未来的通过这些记录重返过去的 ？  
为了什么才去record，而什么更能达到目的  
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我继续我的想法
分开思路清楚些。
个人的话，也许就是为了看看过去自己干了些什么。但是看日记的是没有细节但有自己成长的历史。v的话细节很多，却不能remind往昔成长心路
社会的话，就像我们现在研究历史是为了什么，看看过去的人怎么过的？(v)还是了解他们的思想还是什么。这里我还没想清楚。。  
关键就在于是要细节还是要成长的厚重感了。我偏向w所以。  
行为是可以反应思想，但是必然不全。我们现在可以根据考古推断出洞人的一些行为，但我们仍然不能解释他们的一些行为原因。如果有文字记录，那就是另一会事儿了／
诚然亲眼所见是更有感触，不然科学家们在恢复出一些古环境以后再搞一个模拟的片子了。但是拍这个的目的就不一样了，为了通俗的告诉大家过去   
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我想了想，那些W有的没的，v没的有的，罗列出来也不能解决问题。我们要得是good record。跟那些优缺的对比没啥关系，关键是优缺所反应的东西的区别把？  
就是因为有优缺才有区别
两个都不是完美的东西，花太多时间评价好坏好像没啥意义？  
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w－－整个历史
v－－一个事件。
到这里已经比较深了，米饭那个中立太浅了哇~

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摘自关于ISSUE88的BS
草木总结的custom vs. tech 波浪模型

1、少部分“异类”对现有定律提出质疑
2、被主流社会定义为疯子，继而被或者活埋或者烧烤或者被关进精神病院...总之被压制下去
3、随着第一批疯子们被烧烤，随着时间的推移，比以前疯子的阵容扩增一到两个数量级的半疯子集团开始挺那个新tech
4、虽然社会得质疑声仍然存在，抵触仍然很多，但是半疯子们经过自己的实践，证明了tech的先进性（有米可赚）
5、社会群众开始从迷信权威言论，到被白花花的米饭吸引，进而动摇，开始有一批胆大的群众追随新tech
6、富起来的人越来越多了，曾经的权威被推翻了，新的权威（半疯子）被树立了，第一批被烧烤了的疯子们，只能被保存在相框和书本之中
7、新的权威为了逐步确立自己的地位，就开始讲故事了，就开始愚民了，把群众统一到自己的范围之内
8、开始了从前有座山，山上有个庙的故事，时间一点点pass，pass，pass
8、新的一批出来了——从前有座山，山上有个庙...

as in a nutshell:
for society：疯子--牛人--大众化
for tech：误解镇压--萌芽--结果--统治--被取代

讨论：

2、被主流社会定义为疯子，继而被或者活埋或者烧烤或者被关进精神病院...总之被压制下去
------我觉得这个在现在学术界貌似没这样了？ 感觉一看就是哥白尼，上个世纪了点，与时俱进的看看呢？
也就是说现在的权威逐渐开放了。时代也是在进步的。
感觉现在貌似是出个什么新东西让后科学家们就蜂拥的去验证，去找问题，顺便蹭文章，然后讨论，开大会，最后在民主决定这事儿是不是这样的。
人们的可接受范围扩大了
好像是这样的，现在由于学术的大爆炸，知识信息不想以往那样被独裁了。所以一个新的观点出来，大家也都没把握，于是都只是验证而已。而不是直接一棒子打死

虽然与时具进 但是人们对待新鲜事物的态度 还是有个固定性的
嗯怀疑为先。

附件  4.10 BS  issue88