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发信人: PDEsolver (9900~游刃有余), 信区: AdvancedEdu
标 题: 签经总结
发信站: 瀚海星云 (Sat Jun 7 16:41:05 2003)
电码!!
GRE.TOEFL送分学校的问题
本科专业的问题,万一看出不一样
带软盘.把必要的靠进去
身份证随身
resume里的research experience
不要认为 VO在纸上写字时就不会听你说话, VO 听我说了之后非常明白我的意思, 才会
要
我的成绩单看的, 他想验证一下我们上的课程是否能证实我的话.
写一个undergrad的study过程
undergrad的advisor
说到准备,我觉得有几个核心的问题弄明白就是了,包括,明确的学习目的,归国计划
。
为什么要去为什么要回来,以及对所学领域的了解。把这些搞清楚就差不多了。
resume上加材料
__________________________
路程:
进入签证大厅之前,在一个窗口还要再查一遍护照,ds表,核对一下你是否在预约名单
上
。
ds表的中文和英文两联是要撕开的,这是广播告诉我们的,然后在1、2、3号窗
交材料,叫到你的号码再去叫,不然你不知道你该交哪个窗口。交材料是按顺序来的。
偶
交了ds表、护照、i20,admission letter,签offer的一张form,g,t中信收据还有一
张
号码。于是开始等vo上班,等叫我的号码。
注意:去签证的时候除了签证资料外,其他东西都不能带,包括各种类型的包和电子产品以
及
手机等都不能带进去,可以把钱放兜里带进去.当然,如果你的钱包不会引起安全门叫的话
,
也可以放兜里带进去.附近没有正规的存包处,只有一些黑店,我就被黑了10元钱.建议大
家
弄一个塑料袋装材料进去.
注意,填表时一定要把所有的空格都填,没有的填“无”,或者NONE,但是千万别空着
。
受材料的chinese boy很横,你添的不好,只给你一次机会改,然后再不行就让你重新预
约
,根本不跟你argue的机会。
找个地方坐下,大概八点左右显示牌上就开始依次显示XXX号去x号窗口,交材料.我在二号
台
交的材料.开始以为只用交必须的那些(ds表,I20,护照,两张收据,offer letter,领的两
张
号中的一张),不过交的时候确认了一句,收材料的阿姨却说:交你认为对你有帮助的!当时
也
没想什么,回到座位上就有点后悔,觉得应该交点可以证明我的专业一点都不敏感的东西
比
方说论文摘要什么的就好了.一直担心的就是这个,来之前就做好了被check的准备了.最
近
被check的实在是太多了.后来听说我们那天将近50%!
3.一般,6点半去排队,可以拿到30-40之间的号,7点去,可以有100多的号。
还是可以第一批进去。
坐火车的同学可以在火车站坐地铁,可以直接到石门一路站下,不过中间在人民
广
场站转线。
1、上海火车站,一般乘坐k840或T726分别在早晨5:38(k840)和下午15点多点(T726)
到
达。按照出站指示,在地下道向左转出站,然后就到了上海火车站的南广场。通过检票
口
,向左转往前走大约3到5分钟,可以看到突出地面的建筑,配有M的标志,那就是地铁站
,
通过自动扶梯向下就可以搭乘地铁。
搭乘地铁路线:途中会经过汉中路站-新闸路站-人民广场站(轨道一号线)然后下车,
按
照指示换乘到二号线,途中如果人流不多只需40到60秒,二号线那站的名字叫人民公园
站
,另外注意方向,要搭乘方向至“中山公园”那站的地铁-而后就是“石门二路”站。
出站后路线:在检票出去后,面向广告牌/墙壁向左转,会经过自动摄影棚,小卖部和最
后
一个照片冲洗店,就可以从那个出口(离梅龙镇广场最近的出口)出去,一上到出口处
,
就可以看到元禄寿司,出了站,向左拐,然后笔直向前,过第一个丁字路口是类似“-|
”
的形状的,而后就是第二个丁字路口类似“|-”的形状的。在往前还是个丁字路口“|-
”
形状,就是南京西路,江宁路了,然后右拐,向前就是梅龙镇广场的正大门,里面似乎
一
到八楼是商场,十楼是环艺电影院。
___________
VO:
小glass喜欢看成绩单,金发喜欢看resume,research plan
大glassboy真的太认真了
jfmm:
VO: Which aspect?>More specifically$&&%*%
VO: Could you say more details about it?
VO:Do you have a resume or CV?
VO: Do you have any publications?
VO: Do you have any research experience or research plan?
VO:But what is synthesis and one molecular and nanocrystalsSorry ,I am
confuse
d.
ME:ok,i will explain it to you.Synthesis ....
关键是大体你做的是什么,理论还是应用?
于是把手头的PS,对方教授的REsearch Overview,对方这个Program的Overview全拿出来
,
科普文章
jf: So why do you choose to study statistics at a US en.. university of ...
me: because unversity of .. is one of the best universities in the wo
rld and..被打断
jf: what do you study at fudan university?(好像pardon过一次)
me: mathematics
jf(又开始笑了): who will pay your fee in the usa?
jf: have you applied any chinese universities?
me: no
jf: why not?
me: Because i want to become a researcher in a chinese university. a phd deg
ree in the US will
help me greatly to fulfill my goal.
jf: which aspect of statistics will you focus on?
jf: if it would be much easier for you to find a position in a US institutio
n than in a chinese
institution. Will you come back?
me: yes, of course. In fact it will be very easy for me to find a job in a c
hinese university
because china is in great need of people who major in my area.
me:good morning
V:have u applied any chinese univ?
me:我说了直研但拒绝的事情
V:it'll be much easier to be a professor in fudan if u study for ur Ph.D deg
ree in Fudan.
me:我马上吹了一通美国有多好,老师建议我去美国读书
她问了我去什么学校,要读什么(ms还是phd),为什么选这个学校,读几年
,是科大的吗,哪一年上的科大,什么时候毕业,毕业时拿到什么学位,有没有申请中
国
大学,为什么去美国学习,毕业后打算干什么。
V:(开始在ds上写字)What will you do in your field? Have you got your
researc
h plan?
M: (她可能是问我有没有书面的plan,我没带,但是我说yes。注意你如果没有带材料,
也
不能说no,没有书面的就口头上描述。)Yes,you know my specialty is
electromagneti
cs. We are developing some fast computational
V:ok, then what's your undergraduate major? can you say something about
that?
M:*^%(%*#@
V:what will be you speciality in USA?
M:@!$%^&
V:so, is there any relation between them?
M:(汗,这是我的第一段长篇大论)in fact they are the same. what I study in
under
graduate is a tool or foundation for my graduate study.
_ _ _
小gb:
V: What's your degree now?
M: I'm now a senior year student in Fudan University and I'll
get my bechalor's degree next month.
Vo: What will you do if you could not get the visa for America?
Me: Then, I will change my plan. And try to find a Ph. D. position in one of
the Chinese Universities.
V: what's the application of analytical chemistry? (看到他在DS表上很显眼的位
置写了analytical chemistry)
M: It can be applied in many areas in our life, for example...... But the pr
oject I'm now doing is quite fundamental,it's about....
V: why are you interested in his work?
M: these works are mainly about ......., and I think these fundmental
research
will give us more insight to the chemical process
vo(看着我的I20): So you don't need to do TA or research work.
me:Yes, I've got the university fellowship, only need to study
VO: 然而... haven't you ever done something in any laboratory?
Me: I 服了you了...
ok, I can give you the abstract of my thesis of graduation.
Actually I have not finished it...
I don't know the direct use of my research. It is a fundamental field of
phy
sics.
g:科大的?
m:yeah,i am an undergraduate student,and i am in my forth year.
g:forth year?
m:en, i graduate in advance
vo看见第一张纸上有个人头,就问:Is this your advisor?Can I have a look?
然后才明白他为啥要看,接下来他从介绍里面找了好多个专业名次要我解释.
akid:yes,I will concentrate on my study,the only purpose I go the US is to
stu
dy for my PhD degree."
典型的问题是:what is this mean?(指着一个缩写)
what is XX?(一个物理名词)
what is your research's application in our life?
_ _ _
大GB:
VO: What will you do after graduation?
ME: I hope to have a postion at China Ministry of Education. In China, educa
tional research is conducted qualitatively,
we need quantitative research. China does not have an organization
like ETS to provide quality and standardized testing programs. What I wil
l study will be important to China. You know, China has
a large population. Education is very important to such big a country.
VO: En. Yes. Education is very important. How do you know you can find a job
at China Ministry of Education? Do you know it well?
ME: China Ministry of Education is my first choice. If I were not able to fi
nd a position there, I woould work as a professor at the
education department of a prestigious Chinese university.
6,what do your parents do?
7, what's the difference between your major now and your major in USA?
我面对着大gb的时候一直表现出很有礼貌处变不惊的神情,口语表达以及和他的communic
a
tion也算得上流利.大gb绝对是那种典型的美国白人绅士,非常非常注重与人交流的礼节
并
会不失时机的称赞你两句.
事实证明我就是栽在他这种"糖衣炮弹"上了,一时放松警惕"忘乎所以"的失策了......比
较
遗憾
似乎他对我的描述听得很明白,然后又突然发现我的i20上写着我的奖学金是
fellowship,于是,他用一种很高兴很欣赏的表情看着我说so,you get the fellowship
我回答yes,他似乎很满意地说good. 大glass一直表情严素,而且问问题的时候都是
眼睛一直盯着你的,这时候,我也不甘示弱地盯着他,只有看到fellow的时候,很明显
的可以看出他的表情开始不一样了,有笑容了,所以这个奖学金帮了我很大的忙。
_ _ _
yymm:
resume,advisor homepage
3,我觉得跟yymm talk时,还是她问你时好好回答,其他时候保持沉默比较好。
_ _ _
总结:
3。生僻的专有名词最好少说,无论VO有否问及,其实多半会问,你的专业的实际用途
最好都用最最浅显的普物讲座的简单词汇,为其解释之。
computational 用 theoretical,计算机的能力差一点没关系,发展中国家嘛,
就告诉他你的理论物理是用笔算的,你管得着。
optical,抑或是极其敏感的photoelectrical 的性质,
全部用physical or universal property 代替。
4。不厌其烦的重复fundamental, basic等字样。
utility不用direct,我们只是发掘世界的真相嘛。。。
5。对方导师的主页假如有敏感词汇,也只能说rotation。
像我那变态的学校主页显示,他们是用Laser去研究Nano-的Photoelectrical性质。
没有一个词汇不敏感的!
要求提供论文,最好最好用abstract,一大厚本拿上去,他来不及看的嘛,
来不及嘛,就带回家喽,check一下。
1)当vo们没对着话筒说,你隔着玻璃很难听清,这时要明说Could u speak a little
lo
udly?I can’t hear u clearly.这时他才可能对着话筒认真的跟你说,免得自己因为
没
听到而几次没听懂vo说什么,搞得自己瞎紧张
2)问什么就答什么,要什么才给什么,防止言多必失。回答问题时,用最简单和易懂的
术
语,用最简单的句式,避免敏感词,这个就要大家签证前好好准备一下了,扯一点其它
的
也没什么,vo又不知道你究竟在做什么。
几点注意:
1.少说,说多了容易被check
2.research一定要说的通俗易懂,最好用example,不要留于泛泛之谈.
3.157表如果是打印的,中英文一定要分两张打,我打在一张的正反面,被骂了一顿.
1. 携带的材料要精而少;一方面,材料太多则表示信心不足,易引起VO怀疑;另
一方面
,递进去的材料太多, VO 当时看不过来,只好留下来进行 check 了。
3. 练习一下用英文描述自己的专业
2.交上去的材料自己要熟悉。尽量弄清楚上面有关专业的东西。
1.关于你的专业.这个时现在主要问的东西,我觉得一定要解释清楚而且要简单,少出现专
业
的名词一定要让vo明白你在干什么.如果涉及的东西比较多,有点逻辑关系什么的不妨写
下
来.我想vo还是比较prefer看,而不是听我的蹩脚的英文.写完后一定让完全与你专业无关
的
人帮你看看,是否能懂.
2.关于敏感.我觉得如果要是仔细说很少有人做完全布敏感的东西,这就看你怎么解释,可
以
找你作的一些小方面然后解释它,不一定要你所做的所有的工作.这和申请不同,要把自己
讲
的怎么simple怎么好.
3.关于诚实.千万对vo不要撒谎,不要改你导师的webpage,因为他那里直接就可以上网查
到
.对你不利的可以说的含糊,或不出示,但不要cheating.
4.关于材料.据说短jf喜欢问plan,所以我觉得准备一份备着比较好.
1。成绩单:也许以前是看看成绩好不好,是不是退学,
但现在感觉主要是看看有没有敏感课程,
很多人准备的材料现在都不敏感了,所以签证管就看看你学过什么课程,
本人就看到一个科大的gg被小glassboy问到了有机化学学了什么,
结果好像答的不好,被check。
所以准备材料的时候还要注意不要脱离自己的学习与研究。
2。关于过去与现在的衔接:现在为了不敏感,好多人都找了一些与现在工作
无关的advisor做老板,所以有几个悲剧的就是卡在这上面,很冤!
还有要注意的就是着老板要小心,符合原则。不要为了不敏感,找不属于
自己的program的faculty,因为这样的话,要是过了还可以,要是还是被check
而被进一步核实的话,很可能因为提供假信息而被永久据签!
所以提醒大家绝对不要这样!--不然以后旅游都没机会!
3。毕业论文:yymm和小glassboy我看的很清楚,一般有原文都看原文,
--但是他们基本看看你的论文和resume符合不符合,免得被你瞎编一个摘要
来调戏。但他们基本不看摘要内容,而且特喜欢看封面的题目。
感觉数学和统计的一般都会给过,如果遇到yymm就小心点别多说话,遇到胖jfmm要准备
好
归国计划,就
算她不信,也要一口咬定会回来,
_____________
材料:
美国使馆门口的NOTICE:
办理学生签证需要提交以下材料:
1 申请表F-156(使馆门口领取)
2 家庭成员表(使馆门口领取)
3 I-20
4 证明学历的毕业证书和学位证书
成绩单
TOEFL成绩
其他考试成绩(GRE,GMAT等)
其他证明财力的文件
必须:
1.护照
2.I20
3.身份证(住店用,签证不管,hoho)
4.正式成绩单
5.正式TG成绩单
6.offer,研究生院和系里的都要
7.DS-156,157,158(女生不填157表,hoho)
8.中信银行签证费收据2联
support:
1.简历
2.自己发表文章的摘要
3.自己的PS
4.获得过的奖学金证书
5.学位证书
6.以上和申请材料差不多,hoho
7.对方教授资料(如果RA的话),与教授交流信件(如果有利的话)
还有其他的,那就再总结他人经验了。
___________________
第一大类:归国计划
1. What's your plan after graduation?
What will you do after graduation?
what is your career plan?
2. what kind of position will you want?
3. Why do you think you can find such a position?
Do you have any support letter?
What does it take to find a position there?
4. why not a researcher in the university?
5. What's your salary now?
6. What will you earn when you come back?
What will be your salary?
what salary will you get after you come back
7. why don't you work for several years and get the green card before y
ou ccome back to china?
Why not stay in USA after graduation?
8. What will you do if you can not find such a position?
9. where will you go when you come back?
10. How can I believe you will come back to china?
11. Can you explain why 90% Chinese students didn't come back?
12. Does any student come back?
13. Why not do research work from now on?
第二大类:出国情况
1. What do you want to do in America?
2. Why are you going to the United States?
Do you want to study in USA?
What will you do in US?
Why do you want to go to America?
3. Where are you going?
4. why not other countries?
5. Have you been abroad before?
6. ave you been to any other countries?
7. Why didn't you apply some Chinese university?
Have u applied Ph.D.in China?
第三大类:专业情况
1. Your major is?
What will you study?
2. What aspect?
Do you have a specific research area?
3. Tell me something about your major?
What did you say about XXX?
4. Why this major?
5. Future advisor?
6. Do you have any communication with your advisor?
7. Why do you change your major?
8. What's the difference between your major now and the major in USA?
第四大类:学习情况
1. How many years will you study in the United States?
2. Which university do you graduate from?
where have you got BS and MS?
3. What's the topic of you master dissertion research?
4. What is your degree?
第五大类:申请情况
1. How many universities have you applied?
2. How many admitted you?
How many accepted you?
3. How many gave you offer?
how many give you financial support?
4. why did you choose XXX University?
5. How do you know the University?
6. Who supports your studies there?
7. What kind of scholarship? You work as a research assistant?
8. Why your verbal is so low but your TOEFL is so high?
9. you took your GRE test two years ago? Why you took it so early?
10. 问为什么G,T scoresheet上没有XXX学校?
第六大类:工作情况
1. What are you doing in the XXX company?
2. How long have you been in this company?
第七大类:关于婚姻
1. What does you wife do?
2. Will she go with you?
3. Is your wife still in China?
4. Do you have any children?
其他
1. Do you have any relatives in the United States?
2. When is your birthday?
3. How is the weather like today?
4. Where is your home?
5. How long have you lived here? |
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