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[经典批改讨论] issue204 和imong那篇一样,理论与经历。case-by-case [复制链接]

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发表于 2003-8-20 19:09:44 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
“We learn though direct experience; to accept a theory without experiencing it is to learn nothing at all.”

In this complicated and technology advanced world, learning becomes more significant than ever before. For an individual, he must find best ways to learn effectively. Here, the speaker of the title statement gives us his answer concerning how to study. However, he seems to oversimplify the ways of learning, which not only contain experiencing but other means, such as analogy, observation, deducing, synthesis and even imagination.

It is admitted that though experiencing we can learn a lot. But only when an individual want to master some kind of skill or the like, experiencing serves the best way. For instance, only through practicing again and again can one learn to ride a bicycle. In this kind of learning, such as how to drive a car, how to swim, how to cook and how to speak a foreign language, more experience and practice, more skilled he would be. However, in such skill-type learning, other means are not so effective or even have no use at all. Also take the riding a bicycle for example. Does anyone think that one can be a skilled rider just by deducing or analogy? Perhaps no one could say yes. So in conclusion, if one wants to master some kind of skill, the best way is experiencing and practicing.

Some times maybe one could learn something by experiencing, but one should not have to do so, since there is other better ways to choose. For example, if someone wants to know how a skyscraper is built, he would not to be a worker and build the big building himself. What one should do is just observation. If he likes to learn more, he should learn some fundamental knowledge such as architecture and physics. Or a manager of a supermarket needs to know how his rival supermarkets operate, he have not to be the employee or manager of his rival company. The better way is making some investigation first, and then making proper analogy and comprehensive analysis.

However, in some cases, there is no feasibility to practice or no possibility to experience some certain theory or event. For example, the special theory of relativity tells us that when an object’s velocity is close to that of light, time would be much slower or even stop with respect to the object. It is true that one would have much deeper understanding concerning the principle if he or she experiences this great theory; but can anybody have the confidence to manage to achieve that fantastic speed now or in 50 years later in future? For most common ones, some theories can only be learned by other ways. Another example: in almost all cases, what a detective desperately wants to know is what the real situation of the scene of the crime is when the criminal committed his offence. But it is clearly impossible to experience the crime again. However, the detective has to rely on deducing, analyzing, or even imagination.

In addition, when coming to science, it is necessary to take advantage of as many methods as possible to discover new facts and explain certain phenomenon. Typically, the process of scientific research is as follows: first advancing a new hypothesis—imagination; second conducting series of experiments—experiencing; then analyzing the results of the experiments—deducing and synthesizing. So In science and many other areas, methods of learning can not be separated mechanically and artificially.

In conclusion, it is absurd to say that without experiencing one can not learn anything at all. Only in the learning of certain kind of skills, experiencing is the most effective way. And if one wants to learn different things in different fields, one should take advantage of all the possible methods.

我觉得我是不是对experience的理解有问题?
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发表于 2003-8-20 19:24:00 |只看该作者
不错,很清晰!经验的理解正确。其实你不如说理论和经验都重要,只是再不同的case下显现有差别。

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发表于 2003-8-20 19:39:26 |只看该作者
It is admitted that though(through) experiencing we can learn a lot. But only when an individual want (wants)to master some kind of skill or the like
it is absurd to say that without experiencing one can not learn anything at all(learn nothing at all)
well, I think your idea is clearly and you have made a deeper analysis, your understanding of the 'experience' is proper. anyway, I should accept it is an excellent paper except some silly grammar mistakes, I like the examples in your writing.

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to wendysun:

silly grammar mistakes

唉,除了打字速度,这是我第二大死穴。高中语法就狂差无比,大学更退步了,多谢帮我改错。
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发表于 2003-8-20 20:25:06 |只看该作者
hehe, take it easy, all of us can help you, little by little, you will make progress.

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发表于 2003-8-20 21:42:51 |只看该作者
重要!he/she的问题要注意,或者用复数变成they,或者用被动语态给conceal掉

人家都说sexist language的问题很重要,虽然没有因此惨死的concrete example,还是小心的好

case by case要抓住本质,光扔case是不够的,这是今天的结论。
(当然,这不是an implication that 你的文章没有抓住本质,只是一个neutral的看法)
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to imong:

重要!he/she的问题要注意,或者用复数变成they,或者用被动语态给conceal掉

thanks a lot !!
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发表于 2003-8-21 00:00:21 |只看该作者
我想请教大家一个问题:怎样才能有快有好的写出开头和结尾,又不是用模板,我总是在开头和结尾耽误很多时间,而且字数已经影响了我的全文,郁闷呀!!!
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发表于 2003-8-21 09:18:03 |只看该作者
我觉得这篇文章写得很好,可是开头和中间的态度不是很鲜明,如果这样论述,不如在开头做个让步,说experience很重要,但是……,这样好像更好一些……
论证的思路真清晰,真好!
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发表于 2003-8-21 11:26:01 |只看该作者
一点建议:我们现在最大的毛病就是文章段落之间缺乏逻辑性吧,就这一点,你的文章可以稍微改进一下,比如把经验分为生活经验,社会经验,研究经验,历史经验……等等,生活中经验比理论来得更为重要,而在其他几个方面,人们处处重视经验既不可能也不必要。我想这样的话虽然是case-by-case,但内在逻辑性会强一些吧,你写得没问题,就是如果能点出来,文章结构和脉络会更清晰一些。
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发表于 2003-8-21 19:17:49 |只看该作者
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[B]一点建议:我们现在最大的毛病就是文章段落之间缺乏逻辑性吧,就这一点,你的文章可以稍微改进一下,比如把经验分为生活经验,社会经验,研究经验,历史经验……等等,生活..

以下省略...... [/B]

我写这篇文章的思路是:1什么情况下经验最适用;2什么情况下可以有更好的方法;3 什么情况下不可能;4 当涉及复杂的问题,比如科学研究,要综合运用。现在看似乎对每种情况都该做一个总结性的概括,xxxxxxshx 说得不错,谢!
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木耳的文章总是思路很清楚
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issue204 和imong那篇一样,理论与经历。case-by-case
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