14年秋季提纲互改小组- issue 108

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Due to the widespread use of internet, people can easily get access to numerous resources which were not attainable before. Critical judgment or work is required by populace to help them select from the huge pool of similar works. Since experts specialize in their fields, it is argued that only critical judgment of work from an expert in that field is valuable. However, whether this opinion is right depends on the field we discuss. In some fields, like math, this argument holds true. In the fields like physics and engineering areas, experts from other fields can also give valuable insights. In some fields, like movie scripts and advertisement design.

In some fields, the work can only be understood comprehensively and profoundly by the experts in that field. By this attribute of those fields, only evaluation and feedback from experts in those fields has inappreciable value.比如在pure mathematics领域，只有数学家才能理解论文中推理的过程，而这超越了其他科学家的能力范围，如果不理解过程，就无法评论其是否正确。

In other fields, a work may involve interdisciplinary knowledge, so experts from different areas equip with the ability to understand and then evaluate it. For example, though physicists may struggling in understanding mathematicians’ works, in most cases the latter will not face a similar situation when they judge physicists’ works.因为物理学经常要用到数学理论。

Furthermore, as regard to some fields relevant more to daily life, not only judgments from experts but also from public should be considered. 比如IMDb评分就基本可以反映一个电影的水准，而且许多人会电影在网站上的口碑来选择是否观看。而这些评分大多数都不是电影专家打的。

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qinjichun 发表于 2014-12-1 08:54
Due to the widespread use of internet, people can easily get access to numerous resources which were ...

这个提纲挺好
可以尝试写全文

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tesolchina 发表于 2014-12-1 21:57
这个提纲挺好
可以尝试写全文

Due to the widespread use of internet, people can easily get access to a wide range of resources and so how to select the optimum resource from the huge pool become the essential problem for most people. Since experts always specialized in their own fields and always possess a profound understanding on the work in their filed, it is argued that only critical judgment of work from an expert in that field has a great value. Whether this statement hold true depends on the field discussed.

In the area of pure mathematics, I agree that only mathematicians are adequate to give valuable judgment. Even engineers or scientists who usually deal with data by mathematical theories are not capable of fully understand the underlying complicated theory and the deduction process involved in the thesis, let alone experts from other fields. Without comprehensive understanding, they are not able to distinguish a great work from those ordinary works and give valuable judgment.

However, in most areas, the works involve some interdisciplinary knowledge. For example, in a physics paper, mathematics theories and knowledge are also applied to solve some problems. So mathematicians have the ability to evaluate if these theories are correctly used. In civil engineering area, some paper study the effect of force applied on buildings. So physicist are eligible and adequate to judge the paper.

Unlike those areas mentioned above, in some areas which are more concerned with populace, like advertisement design and movie industry, not only experts but also public can provide valuable judgment on the works. Take IMDb as an example, It is the public not experts determine the rate of a movie. the rate of a movie on it always reveal its true quality and popularity. Some people also choose whether or not watch a movie according to the comments and rate, which means the judgment from public is also valuable.

Overall speaking, judgment on a work from an experts in that field should always be valuable, however, in most cases, judgment from other people may also be desirable.

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qinjichun 发表于 2014-12-2 03:08
Due to the widespread use of internet, people can easily get access to a wide range of resources a ...

写的不错
pure mathematics是作为一个例子来讨论的 所以最好写成 In certain theoretical research fields such as pure mathematics 这样你的例子才具有某种generalizability
第二段的主题句要写清楚一些 因为我们这里的思路是experts from other fields may also provide valuable feedback  你需要点明 这样后面的讨论才能和题目明显的契合

还有一些大小写、标点什么的 要注意一下  

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tesolchina 发表于 2014-12-2 08:58
写的不错
pure mathematics是作为一个例子来讨论的 所以最好写成 In certain theoretical research fiel ...

老师，完全按照前面同学的提纲写了一篇全文，请您批评。但是我这里有个问题想要请教您，这篇作文的写作指导师要求反驳最有利的反面论述，只需要写出在有些情况下，并不是专家的判断最重要是不是就已经够啦？
我的这篇文章您看看是不是有点儿短？好像是372个字…………

The statement supposes that critical judgment of work in any field has little value only if it comes from an expert in that field. Admittedly, it reveals some truth. However, it varies in different circumstances: in those domains that various disciplines confluence, the specialists from other field come give a cogent assertion; as for applied works and products, it is their audience and users that have the ultimate right to give a judgment.
Firstly, as far as the pure theoretical research fields which are hardly relevant with other fields and practical appliance, their study are so professional and abstruse that only their experts have enough knowledge and sage to make a valuable judgment. For example in pure philosophy, the subject matters of their research are so abstract and those technical terms are so occult. Meanwhile it rarely insects with other disciplines and has few chances to apply to the daily life, which means that this research field are almost open to the professors and students. In a result, if a paper or a monograph is to be judged, then only the philosophy expert are able to give the most constructive appraisement.
Secondly, nowadays, so many domains involves more than two disciplines, this circumstance indeed need experts from different fields to make the judgment. For example, some historians are attempting to explain the success or failure of various political strengths in the term of the climate and ecological conditions. In a result, the papers or book in this aspects can get a sensible assertion from climate and ecology pundits.
In the last, when referring to those applied works or product it is the judgment from their audience and users that makes sense, such as the advertisements. Whether the advertisement successes or falls depends on the responses of the audience, who are obviously not experts. As for some kind of products, the user experience is one of the essential things on which the factory base their amelioration—similarly, these users are not product professors, either.


Consequently, whether this statement that only values experts’ judgment holds true relies on different circumstances: is the field abysmal? Does it involve other disciplines? Is this one an applied field? We should answer these questions before making the assertion.