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Mars3000UID: 198477

Only through mistakes can there be discovery or progress.

论点：尽管很多伟人总结一系列错误的基础上取得成功，但这并不意味着犯错是取得成功的必由之路。
B1，该论证的缺陷在于其排除了人们一开始就取得成功的可能性
B2，该论证过于强调了错误的重要作用，而事实上犯错并非取得成功的先决条件，而且有时犯错是可以避免的。
B3，失败是成功之母此类说法更倾向于是对身处困境中的人们的一种鼓励，过分解读反而会对人们产生误导作用。
结论：发现和进步唯出于犯错的结论是站不住脚的，而且人们不应过分强调mistakes而忽略了一些对于取得进步而言更重要的东西。

"never give up, as one can succeed only after failure." My farther’s words sounded in my ears every time I suffered depression since my childhood. It is really where my confidence and courage come from, while as I grew up gradually, a puzzle ,whether people can make progress or discovery only through mistakes, arose more than once .Certainly quite a few great arrive at accomplishment after ceaseless mistakes, but it is not to say that undertaking mistake is indispensable to success.

To start with, people who advocate the argument above commit a fallacy in excluding the possibility that one can achieve his or her aim at the first try. Since both success and failure are the results of one's attempt ,there is no reason to argue that every time one , at the beginning ,will end up with failure. It is not strange at all for a kid to give the result 2 to the question how much 1 plus 1 is, which is quite a progress to him, and also a country is not inevitable to suffer great mistakes first which shock most her citizens before realizing property. Especially to the person who face a new task, is it destined to failure? If it is the truth, how to explain that my nephew as well as many other children like him in the world ,received the highest score in his class in the first test. After all in so large a world and facing so complicated problem, arbitrary is to claim mistakes the determined effect of discovery or progress.

Moreover, this argument emphasize too much on the effect of mistakes, which in fact, are not the prerequisite to the break through in inquiry and could be avoided sometimes . It must be admitted that mistakes can provide people a great deal of information and a large number of experiences, and those are deadly needed to each researchers, most of which ,however, we can learn from our ancestors without the practice of ourselves, even the effect being better. As professor Zhang ,the head of  civil engineering of my university said(and I paraphrased ),"Nowadays, the times carrying on  all trials ourselves has gone, and we step in a epoch in which people can make new discoveries whereas make rather less or even no mistakes meanwhile by inheriting the results attained by people before us. "This appropriately demonstrates that with more information and technology becoming available in our society, the role of mistakes as a empirical tool seems diminishing little by little.

In addition,  the saying that failure are the fundamental element of success in any condition, another version of above argument, is much a adage to encourage people in adversity rather than telling a truth. As in many cases, mistakes are unavoidable in the process of discoveries or progress, and thus people usually confront great depression. The appearance of this saying give a hope for them to persist on, with the faith that success will finally come if only overcome difficulties in front. Though encouraging, it could be partial and misleading. Under an implication that progress would be surely made only if undergoing sufficient mistakes, is the focus removed, from exploring solutions to experiencing mistakes, which is not only unhelpful but also even dangerous, for making people farther and farther from the initial aim.

In sum, according to what has been stated above, we can draw the conclusion that although the traditional opinion that any discovery and progress can be simply achieved through mistakes extremely encourage people, the argument itself does not state a fact, for mistakes are not the premise. And we should keep alert to an dangerous inclination placing too much emphasize on the effect of mistakes which leads people in a wrong direction, thereby making us neglect something more significant, such as the contribution of technology and the role of humanbeings’ intellect.

boyjimUID: 125249

今天早上真有空啊我~~嘿嘿嘿~~~:D

boyjimUID: 125249

Only through mistakes can there be discovery or progress.

论点：尽管很多伟人总结一系列错误的基础上取得成功，但这并不意味着犯错是取得成功的必由之路。
B1，该论证的缺陷在于其排除了人们一开始就取得成功的可能性
B2，该论证过于强调了错误的重要作用，而事实上犯错并非取得成功的先决条件，而且有时犯错是可以避免的。
B3，失败是成功之母此类说法更倾向于是对身处困境中的人们的一种鼓励，过分解读反而会对人们产生误导作用。
结论：发现和进步唯出于犯错的结论是站不住脚的，而且人们不应过分强调mistakes而忽略了一些对于取得进步而言更重要的东西。 [大家的观点都被加温博弈的深奥的观点弄得写出来一样的提纲了~]

"never give up, as one can succeed only after failure." My farther’s words sounded in my ears every time I suffered [am suffocated by the depression of ....] depression since my childhood. It is really where my confidence and courage come from [spring/generate] , while as I grew up gradually, a puzzle ,whether people can make progress or discovery only through mistakes, arose more than once [没看懂你的开头想说虾米] .Certainly quite a few [换词] great arrive at accomplishment after ceaseless mistakes, but it is not to say [mean] that undertaking mistake is indispensable to success.

To start with [to begin with的兄弟阿~哈哈~不过都比begin~可以换一个表达~what is threshold problem is that ....] , people who advocate the argument above commit a fallacy in excluding the possibility that one can achieve his or her aim at the first try. Since both success and failure are the results of one's attempt ,there is no reason to argue that every time one , at the beginning ,will end up with failure. It is not strange at all for a kid to give the result 2 to the question how much 1 plus 1 is, which is quite a progress to him, and also a country is not inevitable to suffer great mistakes first which shock most her citizens before realizing property. Especially to the person who face a new task, is it destined to failure? If it is the truth, how to explain that my nephew as well as many other children like him in the world ,received the highest score in his class in the first test. After all in so large a world and facing so complicated problem, arbitrary is to claim mistakes the determined effect of discovery or progress.

Moreover, this argument emphasize too much on the effect of mistakes, which in fact, are not the prerequisite to the break through in inquiry and could be avoided sometimes . It must be admitted that mistakes can provide people a great deal of information and a large number of experiences, and those are deadly needed to each researchers, most of which ,however, we can learn from our ancestors without the practice of ourselves, even the effect being better. As professor Zhang ,the head of civil engineering of my university said(and I paraphrased ),"Nowadays, the times carrying on all trials ourselves has gone, and we step in a epoch in which people can make new discoveries whereas make rather less or even no mistakes meanwhile by inheriting the results attained by people before us. "This appropriately demonstrates that with more information and technology becoming available in our society, the role of mistakes as a empirical tool seems diminishing little by little.

In addition, the saying that failure are the fundamental element of success in any condition, another version of above argument, is much a adage to encourage people in adversity rather than telling a truth. As in many cases, mistakes are unavoidable in the process of discoveries or progress, and thus people usually confront great depression. The appearance of this saying give a hope for them to persist on, with the faith that success will finally come if only overcome difficulties in front. Though encouraging, it could be partial and misleading. Under an implication that progress would be surely made only if undergoing sufficient mistakes, is the focus removed, from exploring solutions to experiencing mistakes, which is not only unhelpful but also even dangerous, for making people farther and farther from the initial aim.

In sum, according to [in accordence to? in light with] what has been stated above, we can draw the conclusion that although the traditional opinion that any discovery and progress can be simply achieved through mistakes extremely encourage people, the argument itself does not state a fact, for mistakes are not the premise. And we should keep alert to an dangerous inclination placing too much emphasize on the effect of mistakes which leads people in a wrong direction, thereby making us neglect something more significant, such as the contribution of technology and the role of humanbeings’ intellect. [粗略的看了一下~字数还可以~B3的位置应该提前~要去吃饭了~:D嘿嘿嘿]

Mars3000UID: 198477

每天就是做课题，时间完全自己支配
所以可以一直在这挂着
你说的嘉文博确实是个问题
感觉思路很受其左右
似乎雷同的也很多
看来有些危险

深谷幽兰UID: 196550

Only through mistakes can there be discovery or progress.

论点：尽管很多伟人总结一系列错误的基础上取得成功，但这并不意味着犯错是取得成功的必由之路。
B1，该论证的缺陷在于其排除了人们一开始就取得成功的可能性
B2，该论证过于强调了错误的重要作用，而事实上犯错并非取得成功的先决条件，而且有时犯错是可以避免的。
B3，失败是成功之母此类说法更倾向于是对身处困境中的人们的一种鼓励，过分解读反而会对人们产生误导作用。
结论：发现和进步唯出于犯错的结论是站不住脚的，而且人们不应过分强调mistakes而忽略了一些对于取得进步而言更重要的东西。

"never give up, as one can succeed only after failure." My farther’s words sounded in my ears every time I suffered depression since my childhood. It is really where my confidence and courage come from, while as I grew up gradually, a puzzle ,whether people can make progress or discovery only through mistakes, arose more than once .Certainly quite a few great arrive读起来不太顺畅的说 at accomplishment after ceaseless mistakes不断地犯错不是不断地错误(名词)吧!, but it is not to say that undertaking mistake is indispensable to success.开头很新颖!

To start with, people who advocate the argument above commit a fallacy in excluding the possibility that one can achieve his or her aim at the first try. Since both success and failure are the results of one's attempt ,there is no reason to argue that every time one , at the beginning ,will end up with failure. It is not strange at all for a kid to give the result 2 to the question how much 1 plus 1 is, which is quite a progress to him, and also a country is not inevitable to suffer great mistakes first which shock most her citizens before realizing property. Especially to the person who face a new task, is it destined to failure? If it is the truth, how to explain that my nephew as well as many other children like him in the world ,received the highest score in his class in the first test. After all in so large a world and facing so complicated problems, arbitrary is to claim mistakes the determined effect of discovery or progress.

Moreover, this argument emphasize too much on the effect of mistakes, which in fact, are not the prerequisite to the break through in inquiry and could be avoided sometimes . It must be admitted that mistakes can provide people a great deal of information and a large number of experiences, and those are deadly needed to each researchersresearcher, most of which ,however, we can learn from our ancestors without the practice of ourselves, even the effect being better. As professor Zhang ,the head of civil engineering of my university said(and I paraphrased ),"Nowadays, the times carrying on all trials ourselves has gone, and we step in aan epoch in which people can make new discoveries whereas make rather less or even no mistakes meanwhile by inheriting the results attained by people before us. "This appropriately demonstrates that with more information and technology becoming available in our society, the role of mistakes as a empirical tool seems diminishing little by little.

In addition, the saying that failure are the fundamental element of success in any condition, another version of above argument, is much a adage to encourage people in adversity rather than tellingtell a truth. As in many cases, mistakes are unavoidable in the process of discoveries or progress, and thus people usually confront great depression. The appearance of this saying give a hope for them to persist on, with the faith that success will finally come if only overcome difficulties in front. Though encouraging, it could be partial and misleading. Under an implication that progress would be surely made only if undergoing sufficient mistakes, is the focus removed, from exploring solutions to experiencing mistakes, which is not only unhelpful but also even dangerous, for making people farther and farther from the initial aim.

In sum, according to what has been stated above, we can draw the conclusion that although the traditional opinion that any discovery and progress can be simply achieved through mistakes extremely encourage people, the argument itself does not state a fact, for mistakes are not the premise. And we should keep alert to an dangerous inclination placing too much emphasize on the effect of mistakes which leads people in toa wrong direction, thereby making us neglect something more significant, such as the contribution of technology and the role of humanbeings’ intellect.

感觉B1和B2论证的主题差不多
整体感觉还不错,语言很流畅,开头和结尾都不错,再接再厉!!!
:)