[整理]推荐人的最优化组合

加菲熊UID: 103463

找谁写推荐信?

AS A PEOPLE SUFFERED A LOT IN APPLICATIONS AND AT LAST GOT WHAT I WANT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME OF MY EXPERIUENCES AND IDEAS IN RECOMMENDATIONS , TO HELP THOSE HONORABLE NEW COMERS, AND THOSE WHO ARE SEPARATED, BY ANY REASON , LIKE MY WIFE AND ME.

In my opinion, the most important thing in application differs much from people people, from school to school. But generally speaking, they will consider all the materials they have and at last, if there ARE STH VERY OUTSTANDING CONCERNING you, they will surely give you what  you want.

Among the most important things, including recommendaiotns, transcripts, score in GRE and Tofel, the most common standard is that TRANSCRIPT, TOFEL, GRE SUB, GRE GENERAL, then the recommendation.

The recommendation becomes the most trivial thing in this procession is because:
(1) USA professors seems already know that few letters were written by faculty members, they are always the work of students'.
(2) There are few professors in china which are famous and willing to write recommedations for students who is going out.
(3) Most professors are not so famous as to be useful in deciding the students' being admitted or not.

But we have some exceptions here. When you are lucky enough to find a famous professor, famous to be known by many professors in USA, Acedamy members are not enough in this issue though. To provide a instance, like Zhang Dainian, Chen daisun, or Zhou Guangzhao, or some people who are very close friend or holding close relations with the professors you are applying, these peoples recommendations will be extremely useful.

Anyway, the recommendations are required in the applications, so we need to choose the recommendations and the people to write it. There are 6 kinds of recommendations, each is worse then the next one.

(1) Letters written by you, signed by famous professor or professor closely related to the school you are applying;
(2)Letters written by you, corrected by those people as refered above;
(3)Letters written by you, signed by common faculty professors;
(4)letters written by you, corrected by those people as above;
(5)Letters written by famous people and you have no access to it;
(6)Letters written by common ones.

Choose you letters in the order above, and there are many sad experiences concerning the case against this basic rule: I was refused by 4 top schools just because I have used a very famous academy memeber's four reference letters. There are many other skills concerning the resume, etc. which I will cover next time. I guess as a conclusion, to make your reference letter useful, you must,
(1) Make totally good words in it, or make it more realistic, put sth. bad but not improtant at all;
(2)Choose relevant people to write it, either they do not know, or they know very well, Academy member in other fields will equals to common ones, or even worse because you can not get good words from them generally speaking.

加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: Guest, 信区: OverSeas
标  题: 推荐人的最优化组合
发信站: BBS 寄托联盟站 (2001-11-8 20:13:20)
1.直接领导 (上级)
2.了解情况的同事(平级)
3.以前大学的数学老师
4.以前大学的校领导
5.以前大学的论文指导老师

因为大部分学校只要求2-3封推荐信,那我应该选择以上哪几位做推荐人呢?怎样的组合才是最优化的呢?(前提是都能拿到他们的签字)
请各位多多指教!!
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发信人: Zephyr2000, 信区: OverSeas
标  题: Re:推荐人的最优化组合
发信站: BBS 寄托联盟站 (2001-11-8 20:29:21)
我是工作的人,我是这样选的.
1.以前的指导老师(professor)
2.领导(supervisor)
3.工会组长(labor union leader)
分别从学术,工作能力,人品方面进行吹嘘.
能选牛人最好啦,但是如果牛人实际上在老米那没有名气的话,我觉得还是找最relevant的人说服力更强一点.

【在Guest的大作中提到:】
:1.直接领导 (上级)
:2.了解情况的同事(平级)
:3.以前大学的数学老师
:4.以前大学的校领导
:5.以前大学的论文指导老师
:
:因为大部分学校只要求2-3封推荐信,那我应该选择以上哪几位做推荐人呢?怎样的组合才是最优化的呢?(前提是都能拿到他们的签字)
:请各位多多指教!!
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发信人: 梅影, 信区: OverSeas
标  题: Re:推荐人的最优化组合
发信站: BBS 寄托联盟站 (2001-11-8 21:18:59)
我也是工作了，两年，工程，商务工作，本科毕业，没有找牛师傅的命，我的组合如下：
1。以前上学时的副院长（vice dean)
2。领导（director)
3。来自于客户，一希腊工程主管（excutive,superintendent)
大家评论指点一下吧。



【在Zephyr2000的大作中提到:】
:我是工作的人,我是这样选的.
:1.以前的指导老师(professor)
:2.领导(supervisor)
:3.工会组长(labor union leader)
:分别从学术,工作能力,人品方面进行吹嘘.
:能选牛人最好啦,但是如果牛人实际上在老米那没有名气的话,我觉得还是找最relevant的 ...
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加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: liwd (看我七十二变), 信区: AdvancedEdu
标  题: Re: 请各位xdjm帮我看看找什么老师写推荐信？
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sat Sep 13 00:16:25 2003), 转信


我觉得要是本科，又没有什么其它的关系，还是以20或者30以后的学校为主吧。

我觉得写推荐信的人选排序为：
1.国外牛人（本领域的大牛）
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2.跟国外有较密切联系的老师（非一面之交，最好是师徒关系之类的）
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3.国内牛人（院士，长江学者之类）或者国外一般的人
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4.你的导师等对你非常熟悉的人
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5.其他人

其中，1之所以大于2，是因为1可以适用于多个学校，而2一般只对一个学校有用；
本来你的导师之类对你熟悉的人的推荐信应该很有用的，可惜中国人的信用不被国外
认可，所以...

rabbit2shoesUID: 68371

国内牛人？？？
老外是否知道啊？有用没有啊？
我老师有很多国内牛人，还很多得过国际奖，但我另一个老师说“谁会知道他们啊？”

huangjin_suzhouUID: 37183

it really make sense