Argument145 同主题练习，来互拍吧

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作者的逻辑：调查结果（打呼噜容易胖）---结论作者建议打呼噜的人少吃多锻炼）
snore --> sleep apnea --> tired --> not exercise
提纲
1．首先，作者给出了一个模糊的数据说明打呼噜会引起sleep apnea
2．即使会sleep apnea，会不会让人在白天感到很累呢？即使睡眠质量不好，白天感到比较疲劳，他们一定就不去运动了吗？
3．最后，作者的建议eat less and exercise more就能够达到效果吗？

The suggestion is easily arguable because the author fails to present any valid information to demonstrate that snorers should try to eat less and to exercise more than the average person. In addition the speaker provides a well-known fact, which is actually open to doubt, that sleep apnea often happens to those who snore and make persons too tired to exercise during the day.

To start off, he first major flaw that undermines the argument is that little evidence is presented to prove that people who snores is inclined to stop breathing for a few seconds during the night. The author only provide a vague number of those who snores and has sleep apnea, however the number is too vague to lend support to the so-called well-known fact. Thus, we have good reasons to assume that in fact only a few snorers have sleep apnea.

Even if we concede that sleep apnea, the short interruption of breathing during the night, is said to mostly happen to snorers, it is unwarranted to believe that sleep apnea is sure to give rise to the bad quality of sleep. Almost nothing is available in this argument to substantiate that the brief break makes snorers tired after they wake up. Furthermore, do people stop exercising surely when they feel tired? Perhaps people like to do some soft exercise to relax themselves and then have an excellent sleep. Hence, lacking such important information, the arguer may not be able to assume that sleep apnea leaves snorers too tired to exercise during the daytime.

Additionally the arguer makes a rash suggestion that any snorers should eat less and exercise more than the average people. There is no solid evidence to substantiate that to eat less and to exercise more can help to keep fit effectively. According to my own experience, this is not the case actually. For some people, even if they eat less and exercise more than the average people, they are still going to gain weight, which is mostly caused by the genes. In a word, it is presumptuous for the arguer to give such a recommendation for there exits little information and evidence to give support.

To sum up, the speaker’s suggestion does not appear much convincing to us for the reason that there are several flaws the speaker commits in this argument. Before the recommendation is accepted, the speaker should present more concrete evidence to show that snores are more likely to have sleep snore, which makes them too tired to exercise during the daytime.

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这个是我的，互拍。给你看。。。ing

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The suggestion is easily arguable because the author fails to present any valid information to demonstrate that snorers should try to eat less and to exercise more than the average person. In addition the speaker provides a well-known fact, which is actually open to doubt, that sleep apnea often happens to those who snore and make persons too tired to exercise during the day.

To start off, he first major flaw that undermines the argument is that little evidence is presented to prove that people who snores is inclined to stop breathing for a few seconds during the night. The author only provide a vague number of those who snores and has sleep apnea, however the number is too vague[之前的vague number和number too vague有些重复，读着不顺～] to lend support to the so-called well-known fact. Thus, we have good reasons to assume that in fact only a few snorers have sleep apnea. [呵呵，其实这确实是个wellknown fact，snore就叫sleep apnea，我不建议批这条]
Even if we concede that sleep apnea, the short interruption of breathing during the night, is said to mostly happen to snorers, it is unwarranted to believe that sleep apnea is sure to give rise to the bad quality of sleep. Almost nothing is available in this argument to substantiate that the brief break makes snorers tired after they wake up. Furthermore, do people stop exercising surely when they feel tired? Perhaps people like to do some soft exercise to relax themselves and then have an excellent sleep. Hence, lacking such important information, the arguer may not be able to assume that sleep apnea leaves snorers too tired to exercise during the daytime.

Additionally the arguer makes a rash suggestion that any snorers should eat less and exercise more than the average people. There is no solid evidence to substantiate that to eat less and to exercise more can help to keep fit effectively. According to my own experience, this is not the case actually. For some people, even if they eat less and exercise more than the average people, they are still going to gain weight, which is mostly caused by the genes. In a word, it is presumptuous for the arguer to give such a recommendation for there[those?] exits little information and evidence to give support.

To sum up, the speaker’s suggestion does not appear much convincing to us for the reason that there are several flaws the speaker commits in this argument. Before the recommendation is accepted, the speaker should present more concrete evidence to show that snores are more likely to have sleep snore[apnea?], which makes them too tired to exercise during the daytime.

我又来了，呵呵
你的文章总是写的很清晰，读着很爽～
我语法不好，欢迎多给我提些意见^_^

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The suggestion is easily arguable because the author fails to present any valid information to demonstrate that snorers（好！我通篇都是those who snore..） should try to eat less and to exercise more than the average person. In addition the speaker provides a well-known fact, which is actually open to doubt, that sleep apnea often happens to those who snore and make persons too tired to exercise during the day.

To start off, he(the) first major flaw that undermines the argument is that little evidence is presented to prove that people who snores is inclined to stop breathing for a few seconds during the night. The author only provide a vague number of those who snores and has sleep apnea, however the number is too vague to lend support to the so-called well-known fact. Thus, we have good reasons to assume that in fact only a few snorers have sleep apnea.

Even if we concede that sleep apnea, the short interruption of breathing during the night, is said to mostly happen to snorers, it is unwarranted to believe that sleep apnea is sure to give rise to the bad quality of sleep. Almost nothing is available in this argument to substantiate that the brief break makes snorers tired after they wake up. Furthermore, do people stop exercising surely when they feel tired? Perhaps people like to do some soft exercise to relax themselves and then have an excellent sleep. Hence, lacking such important information, the arguer may not be able to assume that sleep apnea leaves snorers too tired to exercise during the daytime.
这个假设错误是个很明显的错,我觉得可以再说的具体点,到底打鼾和减少运动之间有没有关系)

Additionally the arguer makes a rash suggestion that any snorers should eat less and exercise more than the average people. There is no solid evidence to substantiate that to eat less and to exercise more can help to keep fit effectively. According to my own experience, this is not the case actually. (转的好)For some people, even if they eat less and exercise more than the average people, they are still going to gain weight, which is mostly caused by the genes. In a word, it is presumptuous for the arguer to give such a recommendation for there exits little information and evidence to give support.

To sum up, the speaker’s suggestion does not appear much convincing to us for the reason that there are several flaws the speaker commits in this argument. Before the recommendation is accepted, the speaker should present more concrete evidence to show that snores are more likely to have sleep snore(en.想说的是break breath之类的吧), which makes them too tired to exercise during the daytime.

基本上我觉得写的很不错了,好好学习一下,句式很地道,用词也很好.
就建议B2的flaw可以再多细写一点.
说的不对的地方,请一定指出.