SRV 发表于 2004-3-19 15:25:55

issue76 伟大思想家艺术家总是超前时代的,欢迎大家拍砖!

76"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society."

     Because of some certain paradigm in the history , I entirely agree with the speakers' assertion that some ingenious thinkers and highly creative artists always precede their time and their society, thus few people coauld understood them.

     On the one hand, there are many famous scientists, artists whose works and theories were far beyond the people’s ability of comprehension in their time and their society. The history of any field is exactly a gradual process along with intermissions and breakthroughs. Those highly creative thinkers or artists are just like the "spark" which ignite a whole wood pile, but when the dazzling "spark" jumps to the “wood pile”, most people do not notice what would happen. Albert Einstein was the greatest scientist of physics in the last century, because of his works in Relativity which is now well known by the contemporary people. But in the time when he published his three papers of Relativity as a common clerk, there were only few people could understand his works. His thought of time and space entirely exceeded the intelligence of people in his time. After several years, American government discovered his talents.  With the help of Albert Einstein, America invented the first atomic bomb which played an decisive role in ending the Second World War. Moreover, in the field of art, the Fauvism of Vincent Van Gogh, and the Cubism of Picasso had also suffered a long period to become famous to the public. Till his death, Vincent only sold three pieces of his artworks which are now the most invaluable collectives in the art museums. As for Picasso, his artworks were also not welcomed in early period of his career. Those great thinkers and artists provide human the most marvelous achievements which make consequential improvement in their specified field, even though some of them have not been granted the deserved honor due to their highly advanced theories or creations.

On the other hand, those great thinkers and artists did not absolutely separate from the common society. Though the geniuses’ works can not be kept up with by the public for a long time, in fact, their works were surely based on the common life in that time. For instance, the paintings of Van Gogh though were considered as crude and unskilled works by people in his time, and they loved paintings with delicate colors and exquisite skills, such as the painting of Vinci. But Van Gogh’s skills were not as crude as their opponents, his works honestly depended on his observation and unaffected presented his emotions and perspectives which endowed soul into canvases. One of his painting which portrayed a family who were eating potatoes in their dark and poky room described the real lives of destitute people, and another painting which drawed (过去式我实在查不到了,好像不是这个)a naked woman who was his girlfriend and a whore are fraught with love and sympathy. Unfortunately, his subject can not intrigue the public in that time, But those deeper aspects of his painting were really based on his distinct observations and unfeigned sensations.

To sum up, truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society, at the same time, their works are not entirely separated from the common society.  


第8篇issue了,个人感觉比以前有些进步,麻烦大家给点意见!

SRV 发表于 2004-3-19 19:25:45

没办法,顶一下,是这个题目大家都讨论过了吗?

菜丸子 发表于 2004-3-19 19:34:35

谢谢你对偶ISSUE的指正,我在拜读~

菜丸子 发表于 2004-3-19 20:14:22

"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society."

Because of some certain paradigm(s) in the history , I entirely agree with the speakers' (speakers??单数?复数?好象都不肯定,干脆不要用SPEAKER了,直接说THE STATEMENT ABOVE )assertion that some ingenious(好词,捏捏) thinkers and highly creative artists always precede their time and their society, thus few people coauld (could)understood them.(看完开头,觉得用词用句方面真是高手啊,捏啊 可惜有点短啊——鸡蛋里挑骨头,挖哈哈)

On the one hand, there are many famous scientists, artists whose works and theories were (为什么要WERE呢) far beyond the people’s ability of comprehension in their time and their society(很漂亮的 FAT BEYOND!捏捏). The history of any field is exactly a gradual process along with intermissions and breakthroughs. Those highly creative thinkers or artists are just like the "spark" which ignite(加S) a whole wood pile(哇,真是受益非浅啊,又拣到一个好句子,捏捏,8过单复数有点混乱哦), (句号咯)but when the dazzling "spark" jumps(西西,真可爱) to the “wood pile”, most people do not notice(REALIZE是不是更地道呢?西西)what would happen. Albert Einstein was the greatest scientist of physics in the last century, because of his works in Relativity which is now well known by the contemporary people(WORKS IN RELATIVITY?WORK后面加了S就是指美术、文学方面的著作,用这里不妥,你是想说“成就”吧?建议用ACHEIVEMENT 或者 CONTRIBUTE喔~). But in the time when he published his three papers of Relativity as a common clerk, there were only few people could understand his works. His thought of time and space entirely exceeded the intelligence(好!) of people in his time. After several years, American government discovered his talents. With the help of Albert Einstein, America invented the first atomic bomb which played an decisive role in ending the Second World War. Moreover, in the field of art, the Fauvism of Vincent Van Gogh, and the Cubism of Picasso had also suffered a long period to become famous to the public. Till his death, Vincent only sold three pieces of his artworks which are now the most invaluable collectives in the art museums. As for Picasso, his artworks were also not welcomed in early period of his career. Those great thinkers and artists provide human the most marvelous achievements which make consequential improvement in their specified field, even though some of them have not been granted the deserved honor due to their highly advanced theories or creations(这句太精彩了!!GRANT THE DESERVED HONOR!赞!).

(不错,论证的主题举用了大量的里子,8过感觉有点少啊~~~HOHO,而且,你开头都说了 ENTIRELY AGREE WITH 题目的观点,可下面这段怎么又来个让步呢?)

On the other hand, those great thinkers and artists did not absolutely separate from the common society. Though the geniuses’ works can not be kept up with by the public for a long time, in fact, their works were surely based on the common life in that time. For instance, the paintings of Van Gogh though were considered as crude and unskilled works by people in his time, and they loved paintings with delicate colors and exquisite skills, such as the painting of Vinci. But Van Gogh’s skills were not as crude as their opponents, his works honestly depended on his observation and unaffected presented his emotions and perspectives which endowed soul into canvases. One of his painting which portrayed a family who were eating potatoes in their dark and poky room described the real lives of destitute people, and another painting which drawed(挖哈哈DEPICTING) a naked woman who was his girlfriend and a whore are fraught with love and sympathy. Unfortunately, his subject can not intrigue the public in that time(小BUG,改成 AT THAT TIME), But those deeper aspects of his painting were really based on his distinct observations and unfeigned sensations.

To sum up, truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society, (句号啊)(BUT)at the same time, their works are not entirely separated from the common society.

真的很不错哦~~~努力学习ING~~

SRV 发表于 2004-3-19 20:28:23

谢谢丸子的修改!!
继续改!

icyscorpio 发表于 2004-3-19 23:09:05

76"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society."

Because of some certain paradigm in the history,(你拿这个当案例法?这样说好像不如一步步,就是一个个的原因推理证明的全面) I entirely agree with the speakers' assertion that some ingenious thinkers and highly creative artists always precede their time and their society, thus few people coauld understood them.
不错,够简练,但清楚明白。

On the one hand, there are many famous scientists, artists whose works and theories were far beyond the people’s ability of comprehension in their time and their society. The history of any field is exactly a gradual process along with intermissions and breakthroughs. Those highly creative thinkers or artists are just like the "spark" which ignite a whole wood pile, but when the dazzling "spark" jumps to the “wood pile”, most people do not notice what would happen. Albert Einstein was the greatest scientist of physics in the last century, because of his works in Relativity which is now well known by the contemporary people. But in the time when he published his three papers of Relativity as a common clerk, there were only few people could understand his works. His thought of time and space entirely exceeded the intelligence of people in his time. After several years, American government discovered his talents. With the help of Albert Einstein, America invented the first atomic bomb which played an decisive role in ending the Second World War. Moreover, in the field of art, the Fauvism of Vincent Van Gogh,(强,这个也写得出来,让我用中文我也说不出温特,野兽派这种东西。) and the Cubism of Picasso (我自卑了,人种人差距怎么这么大呢??)had also suffered a long period to become famous to the public. Till his death, Vincent only sold three pieces of his artworks which are now the most invaluable collectives in the art museums. As for Picasso, his artworks were also not welcomed in early period of his career. Those great thinkers and artists provide human the most marvelous achievements which make consequential improvement in their specified field, even though some of them have not been granted the deserved honor due to their highly advanced theories or creations.
看的出来,例子占了大部分。你的基础真是不错。我第8篇时还是400字1个小时瞎写的水平呢。

On the other hand, those great thinkers and artists did not absolutely separate from the common society. Though the geniuses’ works can not be kept up with by the public for a long time, in fact, their works were surely based on the common life in that time. For instance, the paintings of Van Gogh though were considered as crude and unskilled works by people in his time, and they loved paintings with delicate colors and exquisite skills, such as the painting of Vinci. But Van Gogh’s skills were not as crude as their opponents, his works honestly depended on his observation and unaffected presented his emotions and perspectives which endowed soul into canvases. One of his painting which portrayed a family who were eating potatoes in their dark and poky room described the real lives of destitute people, and another painting which drawed (过去式我实在查不到了,好像不是这个)a naked woman who was his girlfriend and a whore are fraught with love and sympathy. Unfortunately, his subject can not intrigue the public in that time, But those deeper aspects of his painting were really based on his distinct observations and unfeigned sensations.

To sum up, truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society, at the same time, their works are not entirely separated from the common society.



多写老题,孙远那些。
我觉得死也别写成这种结构,还是老说法:稳妥的好。主体三段。
你是不是上过新东方?感觉像修锐那个模式。
正面一段,反面一段。因为这是个结论型的题目。
说实话,我好久没练这种题了。反正近期一直是因果型的题目。
其实我觉得把结论型说成因果也是可以的,就看咱们怎么联系了。
A样的B种人总是做C事。写成支持观点。
第一段:B种人只有通过做C事,才能证明自己是A样的。
第二段:B种人如果没人做C事而做了非C事,那么他就不是A样了。
第三段:不可否认,在一些情况下,A样的B种人也不总是C样的。对于本题就写,艺术是为人民服务的。

说的有点乱,你再整理整理吧。
天天这样真的挺费时费力的。
累。。。。。。。
晕。。。。。。。。。

菜丸子 发表于 2004-3-19 23:34:44

最初由 icyscorpio 发布
A样的B种人总是做C事。写成支持观点。
第一段:B种人只有通过做C事,才能证明自己是A样的。
第二段:B种人如果没人做C事而做了非C事,那么他就不是A样了。
第三段:不可否认,在一些情况下,A样的B种人也不总是C样的。对于本题就写,艺术是为人民服务的。

呵呵我上过新东方,8过没有认真听,所谓的模式,我一个也没遵循。
照冰蝎子这么说,这个文章的论点罗列该如下:
(1)艺术家通过一些特别的行为,能引起别人的注意,他们的WORKS才会从一些平庸的作品中脱颖而出,成为公认的MASTERPIECE;
(2)如果艺术家和时代、社会保持同步,行为和普通人没什么两样,他们也不会成为艺术家;
(3)当然,并不是所有的艺术家都要通过特立独行才能成就他们自己。
改来改去,总觉得上下矛盾啊,冰蝎同学能不能详细指教一下呢?谢谢

eaglezhou 发表于 2004-3-20 00:28:15

大家一起讨论讨论

76"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society."

Because of some certain paradigm in the history(some不就够了,加certain有必要吗?) , I entirely agree with the speakers' assertion that some ingenious thinkers and highly creative artists always precede their time and their society, thus few people coauld(could) understood them.

On the one hand, there are many famous scientists, artists whose works and theories were far beyond the people’s ability of comprehension in their time and their society. (是不是人们不能理解,还是未经检验呢?)The history of any field is exactly a gradual process along with intermissions and breakthroughs. Those highly creative thinkers or artists are just like the "spark" which ignite a whole wood pile, but when the dazzling "spark" jumps to the “wood pile”, most people do not notice what would happen. Albert Einstein was the greatest scientist of physics in the last century, because of his works in Relativity which is now well known by the contemporary people. But in the time when he published his three papers of Relativity as a common clerk, there were only few people could understand his works. His thought of time and space entirely exceeded the intelligence of people in his time. After several years, American government discovered his talents. With the help of Albert Einstein, America invented the first atomic bomb which played an(a) decisive role in ending the Second World War. Moreover, in the field of art, the Fauvism of Vincent Van Gogh, and the Cubism of Picasso had also suffered a long period to become famous to the public. Till his death, Vincent only sold three pieces of his artworks which are now the most invaluable collectives in the art museums. As for Picasso, his artworks were also not welcomed in early period of his career. (我好像记得有一个抽象派的画家在当时就比较受欢迎了,是不是毕加索?early period好像不能说明什么问题吧,你觉得呢?)Those great thinkers and artists provide human the most marvelous achievements which make consequential improvement in their specified field, even though some of them have not been granted the deserved honor due to their highly advanced theories or creations.

On the other hand, those great thinkers and artists did not absolutely separate from the common society.(题目有没有说到separate from the common society 啊?) Though the geniuses’ works can not be kept up with by the public for a long time, in fact, their works were surely based on the common life in that time. For instance, the paintings of Van Gogh though were considered as crude and unskilled works by people in his time, and they loved paintings with delicate colors and exquisite skills, such as the painting of Vinci. But Van Gogh’s skills were not as crude as their opponents, his works honestly depended on his observation and unaffected presented his emotions and perspectives which endowed soul into canvases. One of his painting which portrayed a family who were eating potatoes in their dark and poky room described the real lives of destitute people, and another painting which drawed(drew) (过去式我实在查不到了,好像不是这个)a naked woman who was his girlfriend and a whore are fraught with love and sympathy. Unfortunately, his subject can not intrigue the public in that time, But those deeper aspects of his painting were really based on his distinct observations and unfeigned sensations.

To sum up, truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society, at the same time, their works are not entirely separated from the common society.

springy 发表于 2004-3-20 10:58:01

No.1 issue 76 伟大思想家艺术家总是超前时代的,欢迎大家拍砖!

76"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society."
Because of some certain paradigm (这里是否该用单复数)in the history , I entirely agree with the speakers' assertion that some ingenious thinkers and highly creative artists always precede their time and their society, thus few people coauld (拼写错误)understood them.(开头很明了简洁,这种方式我要学习)

On the one hand, there are many famous scientists, artists whose works and theories were far beyond the people’s ability of comprehension(我想是不是可以用一个词代替:reach)in their time and their society. The history of any field is exactly a gradual process along with intermissions and breakthroughs. Those highly creative thinkers or artists are just like the "spark" which ignite a whole wood pile, but when the dazzling "spark" jumps to the “wood pile”, most people do not notice what would happen.(这个比喻,好像不太符合你要表达的意思) Albert Einstein was the greatest scientist of physics in the last century, because of his works in Relativity which is now well known by the contemporary people. But in the time when he published his three papers of Relativity as a common clerk, there were only few people could understand his works. His thought of time and space entirely exceeded the intelligence of people in his time. After several years, American government discovered his talents(让我理解为爱因斯坦的天才是美国政府发现的,但是他不是在此之前就得了诺贝尔奖吗?). With the help of Albert Einstein, America invented the first atomic bomb which played an decisive role in ending the Second World War. Moreover, in the field of art, the Fauvism of Vincent Van Gogh, and the Cubism of Picasso had also suffered a long period to become famous to the public(这局结构不错,记之). Till his death, Vincent only sold three pieces of his artworks which are now the most invaluable collectives in the art museums. As for Picasso, his artworks were also not welcomed in early period of his career. Those great thinkers and artists provide human the most marvelous achievements which make consequential improvement in their specified field, even though some of them have not been granted the deserved honor due to their highly advanced theories or creations.(好句)

On the other hand, those great thinkers and artists did not absolutely separate from the common society. Though the geniuses’ works can not be kept up with (keep up with 跟上?)by the public for a long time, in fact, their works were surely based on the common life in that time. For instance, the paintings of Van Gogh though were considered as crude and unskilled works by people in his time, and they loved paintings with delicate colors and exquisite skills, such as the painting of Vinci. But Van Gogh’s skills were not as crude as their opponents, his works honestly depended on his observation and unaffected presented his emotions and perspectives which endowed soul into canvases. One of his painting which portrayed a family who were eating potatoes in their dark and poky room described the real lives of destitute people, and another painting which drawed (换一个词如何?presented)a naked woman who was his girlfriend and a whore are fraught with love and sympathy(?). Unfortunately, his subject can not intrigue the public in that time, But those deeper aspects of his painting were really based on his distinct observations and unfeigned sensations.

To sum up, truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time and their society, at the same time, their works are not entirely separated from the common society.
觉得你的例子用的不错,而且你的艺术史知识还很丰富,句子结构很熟练很漂亮。美中不足的是例子占的篇幅很大,说理议论的力量就相对弱了。如果时间允许是不是还可以更好?你写了8篇就有这个水平了,佩服阿佩服。

SRV 发表于 2004-3-20 15:42:03

最初由 springy 发布
No.1 issue 76 伟大思想家艺术家总是超前时代的,欢迎大家拍砖!

76"Truly profound thinkers and highly creative artists are always out of step with their time a..

以下省略......
这个还有待考究。今天要继续写三篇!谢谢springy 和eagalzhou得修改!!我会继续努力的
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