sarahong 发表于 2004-7-19 19:41:03

Issue174 特训作业之Chap1_4

题外话:首先,感谢pooh和她的百宝箱,其次感谢所有浏览此贴子,和将会帮我辛勤修改的gters们!
也算是呕心沥血之作了,水平也就这样了~


174 "Laws should not be rigid or fixed. Instead, they should be flexible enough to take account of various circumstances, times, and places."

简要中文提纲:
1. 部分同意。虽然Laws应保持一定程度的相对稳定,但是其应当顺应不同条件,以适应社会需求的变化
2. 历史上,laws随着深刻的社会变革而发展的(美国宪法和黑人权利)
3. 现代,一些领域的重大事件常导致重大社会变革,也导致laws发展完善(政治/经济领域)
4. However, laws应保证相对的一致性与稳定以服务于国家和普通大众的利益
5. 结论


Laws, generally founded by legislatures or courts, are employed to govern a society and to regulate the behavior of its members. Should laws be fixed or be flexible? As far as I am concerned, laws should maintain a relative stable state in principle to some extent, however, they should be compliant to various circumstances in order to meet the changing requirements of society.


Throughout the history, laws are developed accompanied with profound social changes. Consider, for example, the U.S. Constitution, which is usually regarded as the model constitution for numerous political regimes around the world, yet is not fixed or rigid since it was drafted in 1787. With the process of the democratization, people became to aware of their rights as the host of the country, thus in 1791 ten amendments were added to the Constitutions to ensure human rights. Until now, more than twenty-seven amendments were complemented, which is much more than 3 times words of the initial Constitution. For another example, in the 1940's and 1950's, with the effects of industrialization, the need for black labor was emerged, and along with the maturation of black education, more blacks became acute sensitive and were enraged about their old inferiority. Finally, with the civil rights movement, laws that entitled the equal rights to the blacks with the whites were enacted. Therefore, sparkling history inform us that laws should not be rigid in order to be compatible with society development and to better serve for the society.

On the modern era, some vital events in other realms often brought about crisis and essential social changes, which may cause laws to be completed and developed as well. In political sphere, for instance, the Congress strengthened or enacted several pieces of legislation, such as the Freedom of Information Act in 1966 and the War Power Act in 1973, to curb President’s abuses of "executive privilege" in the shock of Nixon’s resignation. In business world, the bankruptcy of Enron is a good case in this point. Enron's excessive fraud in its accounting, tax and stock have propelled legislators not only to reconsider the relaxed regulatory climate and take actions to investigate and punish violations in those areas, but also to begin to reform the rules and laws in accounting and in other relevant realms. So, consider, if there were no flexibility of laws, the politician arbitrarily abused their unlimited power, businessman might continue to fraud unscrupulously, investors might also speculate unruly, then how chaotic a society would be!

However, it is necessary to keep relative stability of laws within a period of time to any society. Here "relative stability" does not mean fixed or stationary, but maintain a consistency in the principle of laws, which is to sever for the common interest of the state and most of its people as well. Because only in the guideline of the principle of laws, people can clearly know their obligations, predict the consequence of their behaviors, and thus win a sense of security. If there was no such general principle to guide laws, and laws were modified or altered with the event of any new circumstances, people would be confused and distrust laws and legal system, which would eventually lead to disorder and anarchy in the end.


In conclusion, laws are born and existed only in a certain societal environment, and as society evolves, laws also need to be advanced. Without the flexibility of laws, it will not be compatible with the developing demands of the society, which would lead to chaotic and disorder. Meanwhile, to preserve a relative steady society, laws also need to be in consistent in the principle of serving the common interests of the people so as to ensure that people possess a sense of security.

讨厌下雨 发表于 2004-7-19 20:33:07

有提纲,喜欢:) 就先说提纲吧

First, I have dfferent comprehension to the topic.

I think the speaker is trying to claim that we should pay attention to the flexibility of law in the process of legislation. While I suppose that the flexibility should be a matter in execution fo law.

But YOUR standpoint lies in the importance of updating frequency. Am i right?

sarahong 发表于 2004-7-19 20:38:52

to 讨厌下雨

Yeah, thanks!  You are right. At the first glance, I had the same comprehension with you, but I don't know how to develop it~   then later I got this point from pooh's tool box, including the examples

Anyway, maybe you can just give some suggestions according to the point of this issue, thanks!

so猫 发表于 2004-7-19 20:44:24

174 "Laws should not be rigid or fixed. Instead, they should be flexible enough to take account of various circumstances, times, and places."

简要中文提纲:
1. 部分同意。虽然Laws应保持一定程度的相对稳定,但是其应当顺应不同条件,以适应社会需求的变化
2. 历史上,laws随着深刻的社会变革而发展的(美国宪法和黑人权利)
3. 现代,一些领域的重大事件常导致重大社会变革,也导致laws发展完善(政治/经济领域)
4. However, laws应保证相对的一致性与稳定以服务于国家和普通大众的利益
5. 结论


Laws, generally founded by legislatures or courts, are employed to govern a society and to regulate the behavior of its members. Should laws be fixed or be flexible? As far as I am concerned, laws should maintain a relative stable state in principle to some extent, however, they should be compliant to various circumstances in order to meet the changing requirements of society. 不错的开头


Throughout the history, laws are developed过去式??? accompanied with profound social changes. Consider, for example, the U.S. Constitution, which is usually regarded as the model constitution for numerous political regimes around the world, yet哪来的转折?不懂ing is not fixed or rigid since it was drafted in 1787. With the process of the democratization, people became to aware of their rights as the host of the country, thus in 1791 ten amendments were added to the Constitutions to ensure human rights. Until now, more than twenty-seven amendments were complemented, which is much more than 3 times words of the initial Constitution. For another example, in the 1940's and 1950's, with the effects of industrialization, the need for black labor was emerged, and along with the maturation of black education, more blacks became acute sensitive and were enraged about their old inferiority. Finally, with the civil rights movement, laws that entitled the equal rights to the blacks with the whites were enacted. Therefore, sparkling history inform单复数? us that laws should not be rigid in order to be compatible with society development and to better serve for the society.
怎么说 不是很符合我自己的写作习惯 你有提出你的观点 然后就是事例 很漂亮的事例 可惜 没有分析 更没有深入 感觉在堆砌 而不能达到令人信服的效果
最关键的是 你只谈到了有些国家已经这样做 但是 你提纲里写的是 应当
should和have done之间有本质的不同
这个是提纲的一个问题

On the modern era, some vital events in other realms often brought about crisis and essential social changes, which may cause laws to be completed and developed as well. In political sphere, for instance, the Congress strengthened or enacted several pieces of legislation, such as the Freedom of Information Act in 1966 and the War Power Act in 1973, to curb President’s abuses of "executive privilege" in the shock of Nixon’s resignation. In business world, the bankruptcy of Enron is a good case in this point. Enron's excessive fraud in its accounting, tax and stock have propelled legislators not only to reconsider the relaxed regulatory climate and take actions to investigate and punish violations in those areas, but also to begin to reform the rules and laws in accounting and in other relevant realms. So, consider, if there were no flexibility of laws, the politician arbitrarily abused their unlimited power, businessman might continue to fraud unscrupulously, investors might also speculate unruly, then how chaotic a society would be!
这一段不错 但同样 例子不要用得太堆砌
举例完了适当分析一下

However, it is necessary to keep relative stability of laws within a period of time toto? any society. Here "relative stability" does not mean fixed or stationary, but maintain a consistency in the principle of laws, which is to sever for the common interest of the state and most of its people as well. Because only in the guideline of the principle of laws, people can clearly know their obligations, predict the consequence of their behaviors, and thus win a sense of security. If there was no such general principle to guide laws, and laws were modified or altered with the event of any new circumstances, people would be confused and distrust laws and legal system, which would eventually lead to disorder and anarchy in the end.
这段的分析不错哦 不过 那个because only in
我个人比较不喜欢用这个 感觉很武断
用argu的观点就是说 你凭什么就用个only呢
证明呢 拿来~~~


In conclusion, laws are born and existed only in a certain societal environment, and as society evolves, laws also need to be advanced. Without the flexibility of laws, it will not be compatible with the developing demands of the society, which would lead to chaotic and disorder. Meanwhile, to preserve a relative steady society, laws also need to be in consistent in the principle of serving the common interests of the people so as to ensure that people possess a sense of security.

最后 提出一个建议
求你别用那么多的which从句了
我快昏了
换几个别的句式用吧~~~~~

六翼小宇 发表于 2004-7-19 20:55:14

刚看了提纲,我跟2楼的看法一样
感觉这道题就是对法理学探讨,我国使用大陆法系,这种法律是以明确的条文规定各种判决,简单说,就是在法律条文中找对应项来定罪。法国等国就是大陆法。
与大陆法系相对应的是英美法系,这是案例法,即定罪的根据是以前所发生的相同类型的案例,他的来源好象是英国苏格兰的惯例法,据说13世纪就在实施了。
那么问题就在于,they should be flexible enough to take account of various circumstances, times, and places. 其中的THEY指什么。如果是指大陆法系的法条或英美法系中的基本法律,则对于一种未出现的犯罪情况,是定新的法律,而不是对原有法律的修改,就不存在要求原法律flexible enough的问题了。而如果是指案例法中的曾经出现过的判决,那也没有这样的问题。

所以,这道题最好找个法律牛人定夺一下,呵呵

pooh 发表于 2004-7-19 21:50:48

关于这个题目的理解问题,我认为ets并不要求有专业知识,考虑到参加gre考试的学生大部分来自非英美国家,法律体系会有差异,ets只是要求对这个题目有最本质的理解,也就是法律要不要变!这是我个人的看法了,大家继续讨论,:)

174 "Laws should not be rigid or fixed. Instead, they should be flexible enough to take account of various circumstances, times, and places."

简要中文提纲:
1. 部分同意。虽然Laws应保持一定程度的相对稳定,但是其应当顺应不同条件,以适应社会需求的变化
2. 历史上,laws随着深刻的社会变革而发展的(美国宪法和黑人权利)
3. 现代,一些领域的重大事件常导致重大社会变革,也导致laws发展完善(政治/经济领域)
4. However, laws应保证相对的一致性与稳定以服务于国家和普通大众的利益
5. 结论


Laws, generally founded by legislatures or courtslaw好像不是由法庭court确立的,只是legislature吧, are employed to govern a society and to regulate the behavior of its members. Should laws be fixed or be flexible? As far as I am concerned, laws should maintain a relative stable state in principle to some extent, however, they should be compliant to various circumstances in order to meet the changing requirements of society.


Throughout the history, laws are developed accompanied with profound social changes. Consider, for example, the U.S. Constitution, which is usually regarded as the model constitution for numerous political regimes around the world, yet is not fixed or rigid since it was drafted in 1787. With the process of the democratization, people became to aware became aware , aware is adj.of their rights as the host of the country, thus in 1791 ten amendments were added to the Constitutions to ensure human rights. Until now, more than twenty-seven amendments were complemented, which is much more than 3 times words of the initial Constitution. For another example, in the 1940's and 1950's, with the effects of industrialization, the need for black labor was emerged, and along with the maturation of black education, more blacks became acute sensitive and were enraged about their old inferiority. Finally, with the civil rights movement, laws that entitled the equal rights to the blacks with the whites were enacted. Therefore, sparkling history inform us that laws should not be rigid in order to be compatible with society development and to better serve for the society.
缺少分析为什么需要flexible法律,当法律适应社会发展时带来了怎样的好处,虽然说这样的分析也就一两句话,但是却是点睛之笔

On the modern era, some vital events in other realms often brought about crisis and essential social changes, which may cause laws to be completed and developed as well. In political sphere, for instance, the Congress strengthened or enacted several pieces of legislation, such as the Freedom of Information Act in 1966 and the War Power Act in 1973, to curb President's abuses of "executive privilege" in the shock of Nixon's resignation. In business world, the bankruptcy of Enron is a good case in this point. Enron's excessive fraud in its accounting, tax and stock have propelled legislators not only to reconsider the relaxed regulatory climate and take actions to investigate and punish violations in those areas, but also to begin to reform the rules and laws in accounting and in other relevant realms. :),例子的确很漂亮So, consider, if there were no flexibility of laws, the politician arbitrarily abused their unlimited power, businessman might continue to fraud unscrupulously, investors might also speculate unruly, then how chaotic a society would be! 最后这句话很重要,你写得也很漂亮
总觉得body 1和2界限不是很清楚,其实都是涉及到法律随着社会变化,只不过body2强调了crisis的作用

However, it is necessary to keep relative stability of laws within a period of time to any society. Here "relative stability" does not mean fixed or stationary, but maintain a consistency in the principle of laws, which is to sever for the common interest of the state and most of its people as well.这个从句不太明白,或者是你的表达有问题,即使你后面写到obligation,也不同于common interest Because only in the guideline of the principle of laws, people can clearly know their obligations, predict the consequence of their behaviors, and thus win a sense of security. If there was no such general principle to guide laws, and laws were modified or altered with the event of any new circumstances, people would be confused and distrust laws and legal system, which would eventually lead to disorder and anarchy in the end.


In conclusion, laws are born and existed only in a certain societal environment, and as society evolves, laws also need to be advanced. Without the flexibility of laws, it will not be compatible with the developing demands of the society, which would lead to chaotic and disorder. Meanwhile, to preserve a relative steady society, laws also need to be in consistent in the principle of serving the common interests of the people so as to ensure that people possess a sense of security.
结尾不错。
我在想这个题目也可以conditioning一下,比如一个body写法律应该随着时间变化,一个写法律应该随着place变化,再加上一个让步段。这种思路也不错。

另外,你的例子很多很丰富,但是别忘了分析,来服务于你的论点。
语言是没什么大问题的,还比较流畅。

加油!

so猫 发表于 2004-7-19 22:29:32

我来研究一下 我跟pooh的观点差别~~~

lovebrian 发表于 2004-7-19 22:34:55

Issue174 特训作业之Chap1_4

174 "Laws should not be rigid or fixed. Instead, they should be flexible enough to take account of various circumstances, times, and places."
(题目大体看来是个倾向性的题目,从特训角度来看。狒狒这样破题:法律不应当a,相反,法律应当b来满足1.2.3。思考:现状[事实性]——法律是否是a, 是a,则如何不能满足1.2.3;不是a[即b]则如何能够满足1.2.3;[倾向性]——情况1:事实a的话不能满足1.2.3所以采取b;事实b的话,如果a则不能满足1.2.3,所以采取b正确)
(总:题目不太难写,且给出了三个conditioning的具体,关键在于破题时写作者的观点,并由此而立论)
——from 特训报告

Laws, generally founded by legislatures or courts, are employed to govern a society and to regulate the behavior of its members. Should laws be fixed or be flexible? As far as I am concerned, laws should maintain a relative stable state in principle to some extent, however, they should be compliant to various circumstances(ts中只提到了1.2.3的1,是否指待充分呢?) in order to meet the changing requirements of society.

从特训角度来看~~ 体现is or should问题不大~~ 行文的so猫已经评了,不再赘述
但是分角度这里得研究一下:
如果我来写的话,会从事实性的确定 + 三个方面来写~~4个body  感觉比较好写~~
你觉得呢?

so猫 发表于 2004-7-19 22:52:13

果然是漂亮的逻辑啊
狒狒
我要hug你~

lovebrian 发表于 2004-7-19 22:54:19

最初由 so猫 发布
果然是漂亮的逻辑啊
狒狒
我要hug你~
汗~~果酱了~~ :D
你上面评的很好~~我没法插嘴呢 :cool:

sarahong 发表于 2004-7-20 07:22:35

谢谢各位大牛的incisive

//bow 一个先,荣幸之至啊!

分析之共性问题:例子堆砌,缺少分析! ,咳,帮别人改作文时也能指出此问题,到自己写的时候就忘光光了。争取早日从理论贯彻到实践中来!

So 猫:
1.laws are developed过去式??? 我想说的是 被动语态,被发展,不知这样对不对?
2.["Constitution, which is usually regarded as the model constitution for numerous political regimes around the world, yet哪来的转折?不懂ing is not fixed or rigid"  ] 我想表达的是虽然它是model constitution ,可是它还不是fixed forever, 可能which 从句在这儿表达的不好吧。句式太单一,太多的which从句,我也意识到了,一定改!

pooh:
1.body 1和2界限不是很清楚  的确有这么个问题存在!
2.obligation不同于common interest   的确如此
3. 关于例子,大部分是从你那儿学来的哦 :)

狒狒:特训报告 的总结写的太漂亮了,我得回去重新学习一下啦  

Thanks for you all once more!
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