7.10 F1自费ms 1000拒,请大家帮忙分析
7.10上午9:30,轮到我的时候11点过。小胡子签的我。其实今天好像形势不是那么差的,我想是因为我发挥不好,下面是过程回顾:
按指印之后,
i: nice to meet you, sir
vo: nice to meet you too
vo: so you are going to XXX univ?
i: yes, XXX.
vo: how many schools have you applied
i: 3. XXX, XXX and XXX. Only this one give me admission.
vo: what specialty?
i: multicultural education.
vo:what's your current job?
i: I am an administrator and editor of XXX. Would you like to see the job ID?
vo: ok.
i; 递上工作证。居然没有把单位的收入证明一起给他。
vo: why go to study at usa?
i: first, usa has high quality education. second, usa has multiple environment of culture. what's more important, this university focusses on education based on culture. I believe I will gain much from it. (这里说得比较混乱,而且有点紧张,不流畅,当时说的内容有些我都记不清了。)
vo: what relationship is the specialty with your undergraduate concentration?
i: I gained bachelor's and master's degree in Chinese Language and Literature. So I have solid foundation of language. My sought specialty is multicultural education. It can combine my original specialty with the sought program.
vo: what will you do after graduation?
i: I will come back to XXX (an academic center) of XXX univ. Many professors of this center have international education background. (这一段应该是很失败的,事先准备的关于这个center的材料没有出示,也没有介绍这个center做什么).
vo: what will you do after coming back?
i: (紧张,不流畅,恍然大悟开始没有说自己想做什么) to be a teacher of this center.
vo: your house certificate?
i: yes, we have two. One is in XXX and the other is in XXX. But the certificate of the Chengdu's has not been completed. However I have the decoration contract. Here is the certificate. (给他房产证和另一处房产的装修合同、住房所有权证明)
vo: 看了证明,指着一个房产证用中文问:这是你爸爸的?我答yes,他很快把房产证都递出来。who will pay your tuition and fees writen on the I20?
i: pardon?
vo: 重复
i: My aunt and my parents. My aunt works in XXX and her gross annual income is XXX, my uncle is a manager of XXX company and his annual income is XXX. Would you like to see the income certificate? I also have the certificate of the relationship. (晕,半天没有把材料拿出来,就放弃了)
vo: No. I believe you. Why will they pay for you?
i: When I was very young, I spent two years at their home. Their daughter is a junior student in XXX univ. I will repay them by taking good care of her and ... (混乱,记不得说了什么了)
vo: what else do you have to say about your visa?
i: I can get recommendation for posisiton in the center... (依然混乱)
vo: 离开片刻回来。Sorry this is non-immigrant visa. I don't believe you will come back. You can come here next time... 盖章
i: I will come back to the center...
vo; Sorry.
i: ... thank you. 拿材料走人。
不知道自己怎么那么糊涂,事先准备好的很多话没有说,材料没有给他看,除了他主动要求看的房产证,我准备的其他材料,包括父母、资助亲戚的收入证明、存款证明和我自己的收入证明,关于将来工作单位的材料,统统没有给他看。被他和善的外表和貌似非常相信我的表情所迷惑。
补充说明,资助者是亲戚,一年的收入刚好cover我一年的费用。如果2000, 还需要提供新的证明么,需要补充什么材料呢?就用这些材料,改进自己的回答策略有希望么?
[ 本帖最后由 gritan 于 2007-7-10 14:26 编辑 ] safa vo: why go to study at usa?
i: first, usa has high quality education. second, usa has multiple environment of culture. what's more important, this university focusses on education based on culture. I believe I will gain much from it.
这段回答很不理想,没有和自己的职业目标结合,听起来只是泛泛的理由。
vo: what relationship is the specialty with your undergraduate concentration?
i: I gained bachelor's and master's degree in Chinese Language and Literature. So I have solid foundation of language. My sought specialty is multicultural education. It can combine my original specialty with the sought program.
还是没有和你的职业目标结合。
vo: what will you do after graduation?
vo: what will you do after coming back?
连续问了两次归国计划,可惜都没有很明确的说。
vo: No. I believe you. Why will they pay for you?
感觉这个问题已经不重要了,他只想进一步确定自己下的决定。
归国计划我觉得你之前说得很好呀,为啥到VO面前就没说清楚呢,可惜啊
[ 本帖最后由 gor_liu 于 2007-7-10 17:19 编辑 ] 真的有点乱呢,准备也不是很充分。和前几天一个类似的自费据比较相同。 bless u 感觉你的亲戚给你资助是个疑点
Why will they pay for you?
i: When I was very young, I spent two years at their home. Their daughter is a junior student in XXX univ. I will repay them by taking good care of her and ... (混乱,记不得说了什么了)
回答得很不好,我觉得我是签证管都很难believe you. 把自己家孩子都送了去,难道想移民? 看到LZ没过我很遗憾,没关系,好好准备,2000加油
我觉得专业选择和出国必要性,还有归国计划不太好。好好理一下思路。 bless 2000 原帖由 KellyClarkson 于 2007-7-10 17:51 发表
感觉你的亲戚给你资助是个疑点
Why will they pay for you?
i: When I was very young, I spent two years at their home. Their daughter is a junior student in XXX univ. I will repay them by taking go ...
谢谢 KellyClarkson 分析。这个是我没有说清楚,我表妹在中国的,我的意思是将来会好好帮助她,但其实的确讲得也混乱。 原帖由 jiyuanben 于 2007-7-10 19:14 发表
看到LZ没过我很遗憾,没关系,好好准备,2000加油
我觉得专业选择和出国必要性,还有归国计划不太好。好好理一下思路。
谢谢你, 季元本 :handshake
我还不知道是否再签,如果没有大的改变,我估计会同样困难。
可是我很多话没有说,很多材料没有给他看,会不会他并不完全了解我目前的情况呢? 祝福你!!个人感觉还是发挥不好,一没有很好解释 二没有做好材料分类工作
特别是你亲戚资助,还有回国干什么解释的不好.这些都是最基本最重要的问题哦!!
材料多少其实要看情况,我是9号签的,签证官也只看了我的通知书和财力证明,财力来源给他都不要.
我也是第一次签的,谈话时候我也有点紧张,所以一定要控制自己的情绪,放轻松,要面对VO微笑的说话,这个很重要,能让VO感觉不错. 还有不知道你材料怎么准备的,难道不是准备个文件夹然后文件都是一页页放进去,再在外面贴一个标签写上什么文件,这样看上去很清楚.不然你找不到文件反而会更紧张.
所以说签证和打仗真的差不多.归根到底,签证,材料,说话都很重要.但最关键的是你的材料是否充分,不足之处你能很好的解释吗? 说话不在多,而在于你是否了解VO问你问题想得到什么答案. 有时候还要主动出击,比如VO问你去什么学校,你回答了***University,那么为什么不顺带就说我选这个学校因为****
,然后说Here are my AD.
最后多多加油!!!2000成功! 上海形势是不错的,要把握机会,出国不容易! "资助者是亲戚,一年的收入刚好cover我一年的费用",偶感觉资金不够,你想,谁会把自己一年的收入资助别人念书呢 lz 是在CD签吧,我也是当天同一时段被拒 个人仍然觉得
1. 为什么选择美国和回国计划阐述不合理
2. 资金解释混乱
建议:
每当VO问到你去美国种种时都要主动说明你将来要回国,比如他在问你去美国做什么? 为什么要去美国?去多久等问题时,你都要见缝插针的暗示你即将回国.
合理的解释你对你未来方向的了解, 未来方向和你过去方向的联系之处,并且要让VO觉得你所选择的和你本身的是MATCH的, 是有前途的,而且你有充分的准备过去.
回国理由当然也需要COGENT,你要让VO觉得你的方向回来确实有前途,祖国确实需要你. 因此你在对那个CENTER的解释也要很主动.
资金问题, 如果他人资助而且资金仅能COVER一年的话很危险, VO如果跟你死磕资金问题,你难以说过去.你得好好想出理由说明为什么是亲戚资助? 亲戚的资助能力?
只要好好准备就不会慌,要有自信, 祝好运!
[ 本帖最后由 yueeee 于 2007-7-11 13:41 编辑 ]
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有时候签证官根本不看你材料,他从你有限的话语中就判断你了。就像我2000时,签证官跟我说:我不需要你任何材料,来,解释给我就行。
期待你的好消息啊。
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