写作小组作业讨论贴

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

本帖是配合写作互改活动的一个专门讨论帖。

参加互改活动的同学们，或者是没有互改但也想讨论的版友们，欢迎来这边一起讨论。

活动流程如下：

1. day1 23:00
写作互改题目发布时，本帖会新开一楼同步更新该题

2. day1 23:00~day2 23:00
做作业的同学，或者其他版友在本帖讨论作文题，论点、论据、用词造句什么都可以

3. day2 23:00
第二天写作题目发布之前，楼主会总结一下大家的讨论，结合看过的伴有文章，总结此题的一些大概思路

欢迎大家加入写作互改，也非常欢迎大家参与讨论~

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

Data	Topic	Link（点击直达）
May 22nd	TPO23 Integrated Task	3楼
May 23rd	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: It is more important for government to spend money to build art museums and music performance center than to build recreational facilities( such swimming pool, playground)	37楼
May 24th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Most people can solve important problems in their lives by themselves or with the help of their families; help from the government is often unnecessary.	21楼
May 25th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? People should follow the ambitious dream or people should focus to achieve the realistic goals?	26楼
May 26th	Which way do you think is the best for a student to make new friends, a. joing a sports team, b. participate in community activities, c. traveling	33楼
May 27th	Nowadays it's easier to maintain health than the past	38楼
May 28th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Working at home using computers or telephones is better than working in the office.	39楼
May 29th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is more important for schools to fund their students' social activities than to improve students’ meals.	43楼
May 30th	TPO21 Integrated Task	66楼
May 31st	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Young people should try different jobs before they decide which job or career they will do in the long term.	72楼
Jun 1st	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? We can learn about a person from the books and movies that person likes.	79楼
Jun 2nd	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Students can get as many benefits from organization or club activities as they can get from their academic studies.	87楼
Jun 3rd	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement that people should buy things made by their own country, even if things of other countries may cost less?	91楼
Jun 4th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? In the past young people depended on their parents for making decisions. Today, young people are better able to make decisions on their own.	98楼
Jun 5th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? In the busy and crowded world, we should not expect people to be polite to others.	109楼
Jun 6th	TPO20 Integrated Task	116楼
Jun 7th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Students should not take part-time jobs while they are studying in universities.	125楼
Jun 8th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is important for government to protect wild animals and wilderness areas for the future generation.	126楼
Jun 9th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? the growth of cities can be seen as the development of society	130楼
Jun 10th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: The most important investment for a big company is to improve the efficiency and proficiency of its employees.	143楼
Jun 11th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is often not a good thing for people to move to a new town or a new country because of the loss of old friends.	154楼
Jun 12th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is more important to choose friends with whom you can have fun than to choose friends that will help you when you need them.	162楼
Jun 13th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is the best way for teachers to make students more interested in a subject by explaining to them that this subject will help them in their life outside of the school.	171楼
Jun 14th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is easier for more people now than in the past to get an education.	172楼
Jun 15th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? There is never a good reason to be impolite (rude) to another person.	173楼
Jun 16th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Movies and television have more negative effects than positive ones on young people's behavior.	176楼
Jun 17th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? People care more about public recognition than about money, so even if no more money is given, public recognition can still make people work harder.	177楼
Jun 18th	TPO18 Integrated Task	178楼
Jun 19th	TPO19 Integrated Task	186楼
Jun 20th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It’s impossible to succeed if one cannot accept criticism in teamwork.	187楼
Jun 21th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? The government and corporation should share all their scientific discoveries with other countries in the world.	188楼
Jun 22th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Leadership comes naturally: one cannot learn to be a leader.	189楼
Jun 23th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Competition among friends has negative effect on the friendship.	190楼
Jun 24th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Teachers had greater influence on young children in the past than today.	196楼
Jun 25th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Cars (automobiles) have greater effects (influence) on society than airplanes.	197楼
Jun 26th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? An effective leader should try to make others feel that they are part of the decision making progress.	207楼
Jun 27th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It is important to make sure that others know about your strengths and accomplishments; if you are not so, you will never be successful in life.	208楼
Jun 28th	Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Young people today are more likely to help others than young people in the past.	209楼
Jun 29th	TPO22 Integrated Task	210楼

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

基本上交作业同学的作文我都看了，先说明语法问题我基本上没有细看，所以不是说没指出来就是全对哦。

说说听力中的三个点吧，基本上大家都能大致答对，可是没有看到写得非常出色的同学，个人觉得大家对听力内容的挖掘还不够。

第一点是反驳passage中的insect damage. 多数同学提到了那个powerful chemical，挺不错。

不过个人觉得这不是重点，重点是应该是healthy yellow cedars are generally much more resistant to insects than other species.这是核心观点，需要提出来，powerful chemical是prof用来解释这个观点的事实证据。当然这边提醒大家说的要确切一点，是powerful chemicals in tree barks and leaves protect yellow cedars, which is poisonous to insects.

之后是prof对于passage主张中的一些解释，也就是看似被昆虫破坏的cedars事实上已经气息奄奄了；能提到这点的同学不多。

第二点比较简单。

核心是overall这个点的讨论。cedars遍布海岸线附近的mainlands and islands，而在岛上是没有熊的，而岛上的树和大陆上的一样在减少，所以熊的因素不是决定因素。内容都能讲出来，但是对段子里这个推理的过程还原的还不是特别好。

第三点容易听的比较糊涂，需要理清

prof提出了一套自己的合理推测，这个假设跟实际的情况相悖，以此来反驳文章的观点。

发现有些同学只是简单地把听到的点罗列出来，稍微组织了下语言就完事了，这其实是不够的。综合写作的要求是在听的基础上结合读的内容，然后指出听力段子是怎么反驳阅读内容的。

整体结构的话和独立写作有点类似，首先我们每段开头需要把听到的论点指出来，然后把听力里面支持这个论点的推理啊，或者论据啊跟着附上；最后是总结，总结听力如何反驳的，比较推荐大家借鉴听力段子里面教授最后的话。在每个分论点末尾的最后两句话，希望大家好好听一下再。

Irene1084UID: 3420779

占个地板！！帮顶~单开个讨论帖很有必要的说~
resistant to insect than other species听的时候漏掉了… 一一对应反驳阅读材料其实并不容易，需要再练嗯~(^_^)

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

Irene1084 发表于 2013-5-23 23:18
占个地板！！帮顶~单开个讨论帖很有必要的说~
resistant to insect than other species听的时候漏掉了…  ...

哈哈，加油~考试顺利！

EnolateUID: 3283311

又学到了
赞秋雨！

hua_drawUID: 3341707

多谢秋雨的总结~知道自己缺了啥子了~THANK YOU~

諾言哥要早起UID: 3381024

才看到 秋版辛苦了!

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

Enolate 发表于 2013-5-24 00:31
又学到了
赞秋雨！

有帮助就好啊，其实综合也就这么点花头;P

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

hua_draw 发表于 2013-5-24 09:17
多谢秋雨的总结~知道自己缺了啥子了~THANK YOU~

加油加油~

秋雨荆州UID: 2903781

諾言哥要早起 发表于 2013-5-24 10:12
才看到 秋版辛苦了!

:$

luoyu4304UID: 3412283

顶秋雨哥

这是康老师机经526独立作文的西方取经组，我列了一些提纲，还有一部分没有列，希望大家能提供一点idea
独立作文

https://bbs.gter.net/forum.php?mo ... amp;fromuid=3412283

EnolateUID: 3283311

秋雨荆州 发表于 2013-5-24 10:13
有帮助就好啊，其实综合也就这么点花头

提纲挈领啊~你这么一提点就明了多了

Irene1084UID: 3420779

5.24
关于今天的题，大家都是怎么入手的内？
感觉这题反对起来比较容易，要证明题目的观点好难的说……尤其那个“unnecessary”

Irene1084UID: 3420779

秋雨荆州 发表于 2013-5-24 10:16

求助秋版一个问题：
5.23的作文题里：It is more important for government to spend money to build art museums and music performance center than to build recreational facilities( such swimming pool, playground) 这个"recreational facilities"究竟可以包含些什么呢？题目括号举例外的facility可以包括进来吗？
因为我把park算作recreational facility来论证的，同组的daduhui童鞋把gym和parks排除掉了，不知道怎样理解正确嘞？？