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发表于 2005-7-24 00:02:43 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览

Issue136: 400 words 50 minutes 516字（补）
The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare.

Bread, cake, milk and coffee. When you rush to the table to search your breakfast with hurry, these things are waiting for you. Then you are facing a problem--which ones can be ate by you. The choice--defined as the right to decide your scheme--can perhaps produce different results when the expected idea of you and the existing conditions cannot identify in different situations.

In fact, when choice is fitting the given conditions, there are enough choice to offer apt satisfaction. Simple put, assuming that there are only bread and milk on the table and they are your favors, then you will attain the largest satisfaction by this situation. That means, the expected idea which represents your desire by your interest in choosing--you like to eat bread and drink milk at this moment is suitable to the special condition--the ones put on the table for your choice. The enjoyable breakfast creates a comfortable feeling which may be with you all day. Thus, when the expected idea matches with the special condition, the choice is very, very suitable.

Moreover, when the given condition overs the subjective idea, the choice is so enough that overloaded. Consider the above situation that cake, bread, milk and coffee provided on the table, now you own more choice to pick up your breakfast. Still, you will eat bread and milk as your final combination. Because in your opinion, bread and milk are more delicious to you and your ailing stomach forbid your next choice although you have a good appetite. In this situation, the additional condition--more food and drink--overtakes your limited ability to accept it. Then you have to deal with the added choice. For example, you can transfer the right of choice to your mother, although she perhaps had eaten her breakfast. Therefore, if the existing condition provides a broad range of subjects and some of them contained the expected ideas, apparently the choice is very very surplus.

However, the absence of choice can be reflected in another situation when expected idea devours the actual condition. The same example, but adding a special condition--you had stayed up all night-- and cutting coffee, discloses an opposite result. Although you are tired, a significant exam in this morning is urging you to wake up entirely and keeping an active mind. In this situation, drinking coffee is one of the effective measures. But only milk appearing on the table, the narrow condition impedes your will and you have to accept it. After that, perhaps sleeping in the exam even before it starts is a terrible result which due to the limited choice.

To sum up, the comparative relationship between given condition and expected ideas and decides the amount of choice together. If they are apt to balance, no more choice will be left. If the former overtake the latter, the surplus choice will survive. In contrast, the limited choice perhaps exert to press you admit the situation even if you would not like to. Therefore, diverse situations lead to various results which represent the amount of choice.

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发表于 2005-7-24 01:12:30 |只看该作者

The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare.

Bread, cake, milk and coffee. When you rush to the table to search your breakfast with hurry, these things are waiting for you. Then you are facing a problem--which ones can be ate by you. The choice--defined as the right to decide your scheme--can perhaps produce different results when the expected idea of you and the existing conditions cannot identify in different situations.（我被拍时，说开头态度应该明了）
In fact, when choice is fitting the given conditions, there are enough choice to offer apt satisfaction. Simple put 你确定？simply put好象, assuming that there are only bread and milk on the table and they are your favors, then you will attain the largest satisfaction by this situation. That means, the expected idea which represents your desire by your interest in choosing--you like to eat bread and drink milk at this moment is suitable to the special condition--the ones put on the table for your choice. The enjoyable breakfast creates a comfortable feeling which may be with you all day. Thus, when the expected idea matches with the special condition, the choice is very, very suitable.（在说如何选择的问题吗？比我还跑题）

Moreover, when the given condition overs the subjective idea, the choice is so enough that overloaded. Consider the above situation that cake, bread, milk and coffee provided on the table, now you own more choice to pick up your breakfast. Still, you will eat bread and milk as your final combination. Because in your opinion, bread and milk are more delicious to you and your ailing stomach forbid your next choice although you have a good appetite. In this situation, the additional condition--more food and drink--overtakes your limited ability to accept it. Then you have to deal with the added choice. For example, you can transfer the right of choice to your mother, although she perhaps had eaten her breakfast. Therefore, if the existing condition provides a broad range of subjects and some of them contained the expected ideas, apparently the choice is very very surplus.（在讲选择过剩，哎，又跑了，应该是讨论选择是否有无）
However, the absence of choice can be reflected in another situation when expected idea devours the actual condition. The same example, but adding a special condition--you had stayed up all night-- and cutting coffee, discloses an opposite result. Although you are tired, a significant exam in this morning is urging you to wake up entirely and keeping an active mind. In this situation, drinking coffee is one of the effective measures. But only milk appearing on the table, the narrow condition impedes your will and you have to accept it. After that, perhaps sleeping in the exam even before it starts is a terrible result which due to the limited choice.（你应该重点讨论是否有没有任何吃的东西的情况）
To sum up, the comparative relationship between given condition and expected ideas and decides the amount 刚刚被拍，不应该讨论数量大小of choice together. If they are apt to balance, no more choice will be left. If the former overtake the latter, the surplus choice will survive. In contrast, the limited choice perhaps exert to press you admit the situation even if you would not like to. Therefore, diverse situations lead to various results which represent the amount of choice.

我今天很郁闷，被拍的没有了信心。不要怪我，我刚被洗脑！
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发表于 2005-7-24 10:53:38 |只看该作者

先对我的issue 说明一下
段首我是对文章做了个定义: 选择是对事物挑选的权利
根据ets给出的建议
"Do I need to explain how I interpret certain terms or concepts used in the statement? "
然后把例子在开头就摆出来了  我的观点就是: 不同的情况下,选择存在的情况不同

issue 没什么跑不跑题的,只要自己的claim能自圆其说就可以了官方说明上写的

根据ets 给出的建议:
There are several basic positions you could take on this issue:
.... or it depends on various factors
后面是分情况讨论...
1.给定条件=期望的倾向  选择正好合适
2.给定条件>期望的倾向  选择过剩
3.给定条件<期望的倾向  选择缺乏
当然拉,我拿不准我这样写,到底好不好...
simply put,  这个是我错了,谢谢啊  下午就看你的文章啊,现在要去吃饭了..

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发表于 2005-7-24 19:11:12 |只看该作者

发表于 2005-7-24 00:02
Issue136: 400 words 50 minutes 516字（补）
The absence of choice is a circumstance that is very, very rare.

Bread, cake, milk and coffee. When you rush to the table to search your breakfast with hurry, these things are waiting for you. Then you are facing a problem--which ones can be ate by you. The choice--defined as the right to decide your scheme--can perhaps produce different results when the expected idea of you and the existing conditions cannot identify in different situations.
开头给人的感觉很新颖,但是我觉得我们应付ETS的考试时还是有固定的格式比较好.

In fact, when choice is fitting the given conditions, there are enough choice choices to offer apt satisfaction. Simple put, assuming that there are only bread and milk on the table and they are your favors, then you will attain the largest satisfaction by this situation. That means, the expected idea which represents your desire by your interest in choosing--you like to eat bread and drink milk at this moment is suitable to the special condition--the ones put on the table for your choice. The enjoyable breakfast creates a comfortable feeling which may be with you all day. Thus, when the expected idea matches with the special condition, the choice is very, very suitable.(这个例子我觉得不是很有哦说服力,好象觉得和choice 没有什么太的联系,这能充分证明你的TS吗??)

Moreover, when the given condition overs the subjective idea, the choice is so enough that overloaded. Consider the above situation that cake, bread, milk and coffee provided on the table, now you own more choice to pick up your breakfast. Still, you will eat bread and milk as your final combination. Because in your opinion, bread and milk are more delicious to you and your ailing stomach forbid your next choice although you have a good appetite. In this situation, the additional condition--more food and drink--overtakes your limited ability to accept it. Then you have to deal with the added choice. For example, you can transfer the right of choice to your mother, although she perhaps had eaten her breakfast. Therefore, if the existing condition provides a broad range of subjects and some of them contained the expected ideas, apparently the choice is very very surplus.
你的例子真的很通俗,但是你不吃的东西让妈妈吃好象只是符合某些家庭,不如从别的事例去论证,比如说人的工作,在选择一种职业后即使有很多其他的机会也要放弃,因为人的精力是有限的
However, the absence of choice can be reflected in another situation when expected idea devours the actual condition. The same example, but adding a special condition--you had stayed up all night-- and cutting coffee, discloses an opposite result. Although you are tired, a significant exam in this morning is urging you to wake up entirely and keeping an active mind. In this situation, drinking coffee is one of the effective measures. But only milk appearing on the table, the narrow condition impedes your will and you have to accept it. After that, perhaps sleeping in the exam even before it starts is a terrible result which due to the limited choice.
这段TS 不明确,是不是想表达choice 是逼不得已的啊,其实one choice=no choice,

To sum up, the comparative relationship between given condition and expected ideas and decides the amount of choice together. If they are apt to balance, no more choice will be left. If the former overtake the latter, the surplus choice will survive. In contrast, the limited choice perhaps exert to press you admit the situation even if you would not like to. Therefore, diverse situations lead to various results which represent the amount of choice.
结尾给人一种文章没有完的感觉,好象没有什么可升华的东西,不如补充点增强自身的素质以便来适应生活中的选择

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发表于 2005-7-24 21:42:18 |只看该作者

1.给定条件=期望的倾向  选择正好合适
2.给定条件>期望的倾向  选择过剩
3.给定条件<期望的倾向  选择缺乏

我觉得你这样分情况很好，但是写的过程中是不是有点词不达意？因为我没看你这段中文解释的守候觉得你老跑题～～～～抱歉～～～～特别是第二段，一开始没明白过来你是这个意思，我想说缺乏不缺乏选择的问题，干嘛讨论有太多选择也没用的情况呢？
我想你可以在第一段的最后再明确地讲一下，是不是缺乏选择，depends on whether your expected option is included in the choice.或者说depends on the level to which the given options satisfy you. 这样会好很多吧？
还有破题很好，一下子把choice的意义narrow down至自己想要的。但是问题是，我觉得你第一段讲的是选择的权力，后面讲的其实是可供选择的东西啊？再想想吧？

对了。我的issue136有空来拍啊～～
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