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发表于 2010-11-12 21:40:43 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览

In the memo provided, evidences are not strong, and reasons to render the Latin course are ridiculous, without considering the cause of enrollment, freedom, reality, and so on.

First and foremost, the necessary reason of enroll in college is not learning Latin. Numbers, which are come from the survey, '80 percent' does not mean that the total numbers students who learned Latin graduate enroll are large, because the total numbers of graduates who study Latin are untold. According to this, the numbers of graduates who study Latin to total graduates is unknown. But this can illustrate more than percentage of graduates who study Latin. The fit percentage with total numbers can lead to possibility somehow. This is to say, if learning Latin people are large numbers who enroll in college, we can draw the conclusion same as author that Latin learning is helpful for enrollment. But details are incomplete. Besides, seven schools provide the Latin course on the other side suggest that the language is not popular, and these schools are more possible the famous, who can provide comprehensive education includes Latin. Latin teaching just makes the students more perfect in language handling, not the necessary course for students to enroll in college. What's more, even if learning Latin is helpful, this helpfulness can not transfer to the whole state.
So, Latin learning is unsuitable to spread over the whole state.

Secondly, Latin learning can not definitely result in performing much better in logical and critical thinking. The dean render the study that shows the one who masters Latin always does better in logical and critical thinking. I question the reliability of the study, and even if the study is acceptable, the facts just tell us that the Latin learning is sometimes accompany with better logic and critical thinking. But to be the reason, or to be result, is a question for Latin learning. Drawing a conclusion that Latin learning is the reason of better logical and critical thinking is naive, let alone be the definite reason. It is more suitable to say that the better logic and critical thinking is good for mastering Latin language, which is the result. So, the second reason of providing Latin in high school is false, too, which is suggested by the Dean.

Last but not the least, to increase the graduate students from high school and to ensure students in high school better critical thinking, prepare teaching Latin is unnecessary. Graduate does not equal to enroll. It needs more hard works after enrolling, which will cost you four years. On the other hand, sophisticated in logical and critical thinking need practice more, teaching is not necessary, let alone Latin teaching. What's more, even if the Latin learning is helpful, we do not worth providing it, which cost cash, consume time. And we possibly not have the ability to render the course, which is not popular, because few people are experts in, according to the common sense. Besides, before we render the course for the students, we should ask whether they like it or not. We can not force them to learn something they do not like, that is basic common sense, which is dismissed by the author, who has not considered the freedom of the students.
In sum, evidences are not strong enough, and reasons to render the Latin course are ridiculous. There are a lot of things need to be considered carefully:
the reason of enrollment and graduate, relation between logic thinking and language learning, freedom, reality, and so on.

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发表于 2010-11-18 22:29:51 |只看该作者

First and foremost, the necessary reason of enroll in college is not learning Latin Numbers, which come from the survey, '80 percent' does not mean that the total numbers of students who learned Latin graduate enroll are large, because the total numbers of graduates who study Latin are untold. But this can illustrate only the percentage of graduates who study Latin. The fit percentage with total numbers can lead to possibility somehow. This is to say, if learning Latin people are large numbers who enroll in college, we can draw the conclusion same as author that Latin learning is helpful for enrollment. But details are incomplete, which means the Latin learning’s effect can not be illuminated. Besides, seven schools provide the Latin course on the other side suggest that the language is not popular, and these schools are more possible the famous, who can provide comprehensive education includes Latin. Latin teaching just makes the students more perfect in language handling, not the necessary course for students to enroll in college. What's more, even if learning Latin is helpful, this helpfulness can not transfer to the whole state. So, Latin learning may be unsuitable to spread over the whole state.

Secondly, Latin learning can not definitely result in performing much better in logical and critical thinking. The dean render the study that shows the one who masters Latin always does better in logical and critical thinking. I question the reliability of the study, and even if the study is acceptable, the facts that students who have mastered Latin perform much better in logic and critical thinking just tell us that the Latin learning is sometimes accompany with better logic and critical thinking. But to be the reason, or to be result, is a question for Latin learning. Drawing a conclusion that Latin learning is the reason of better logical and critical thinking is naïve. According to the common sense, it is more suitable to say that the better logic and critical thinking is good for mastering Latin language, which is the result So, the second reason of providing Latin in high school is false, too, which is suggested by the Dean.

Last but not the least, to increase the graduate students from high school and to ensure students in high school better critical thinking, prepare teaching Latin is unnecessary. Graduate does not equal to enroll. It needs more hard works after enrolling, which will cost you four years. What's more, even if the Latin learning is helpful, we may be not worth providing it, which may cost cash, consume time, and get less. Other traditional ways may be better, because the cultivation of thinking has long been emphasized, which means there are lots of efficient ways. And we possibly not have the ability to render the course, which is not popular. Besides, before we render the course for the students, we should ask whether they like it or not. We can not force them to learn something they do not like, that is basic common sense, which is dismissed by the author, who has not considered the freedom of the students.

In sum, evidences are not strong enough, and reasons to render the Latin course are ridiculous. There are a lot of things need to be considered carefully: the reason of enrollment and graduate, relation between logic thinking and language learning, freedom, reality, and so on.

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