7。2 BJ rejec 的想法

ruiruiyuyuUID: 2193711

自从7月初1000被拒以后，心态很久都没调整过来。总是在后悔材料掌握的太生疏，回答的逻辑太乱，递材料也不懂扬长避短。。。着实让父母也跟着担心了很久。
毕业回家修正了两周，现在想把2000的一些问题的回答发上来，借着这里大家的经验和智慧，再冲刺一把。
1000大概情况：
中午1点的普通场，刚到等候大厅就让快进去排队了。然后就领牌子按手印，人是相当的多。
等了近一个钟才到我们队，中午也没吃饭，感觉有点犯困。（建议大家签证前还是要多少吃点东西）
最右边窗口的MM,前一对似乎全过，到我们队前面据了一个姐姐。
我：gd atfernoon,madam,how are u?
VO:gd afternoon,fine.
Vo：what will u study in USA?
me:I will persue my master degree of HRM in ...
vo: what is your undergraduate major?
me:没听清，pardon
vo:repeate
me:oh, my undergraduate major is hrm in ...
接着看I-20,oh, it's a big number of your expense.（$40,300/year) who will support u?
me:my parents.
vo:what do they do?
me:当时很紧张，职称的英文名说了好几次，同时给了工作证明
vo:do u have certification of deposits?大概是这意思，我没听清
me:其实是打算给她做好的assest list ,support letter,certification of deposit,但是好不容易听懂是要financial 什么的，就把存折递进去了（硬伤，存期只有半年，另两个是4，5月存的，5，7万存进。）
vo:看了工商行的折子很久，然后就敲电脑了，
me: 我一看敲电脑，急了，想给她看存款证明，她不要
vo:接着问，how many u did u applied?
me:10,2 give me offer.other 5 admission.do u want their names?
vo:yes.
me:说名字，然后回答为什么选这个学校(我回答的根本不是之前准备好的，也不知道为什么就想说个新的，本科学校与所去学校有很强的学术交流，我们的学生很多都被录取。。。）我回答完就想自己之前准备的：my research  interest ...match this progam, shares prof**全都到了嘴边又不见了。。
vo:其实是很耐心的听我讲完，完后敲电脑，给白条

其实大家看到，这样的情况给过就怪了，可是就是不明白为什么准备将近一个月，思路临场就全变了。自己想也许太紧张了。还有一点就是，没有解释我们项目是2年的，而I-20上是三年。心想也许他以为要3*$40,300,而我准备了2*$40,300+￥5w....

2000的几个问题的回答也弄出来了，希望借着大家能修改修改。
Q1: What will you do in USA?
A1:I will pursue my master degree of Human Resources and Industrial Relations in University of Minnesota. Here is the Admission letter. would you like to see?

Q2: Why do you choose UMN?
A2: Because I am very interested in International Human Resource Management, and UMN’ s MHRIR program is consistently considered Top 3 in USA. What’s more, Prof. Mahamood Zaidi also shares research interest with me---International Human Resource Outsourcing.
(I also wanna add one reason: Carlson School of Management in UMN also is famous for its real business training and student diversity, that is also why I choose UMN.)


Q3: How do you know this university?
A3: I got to know UMN by one of my professors who once was a Visit Scholar there. And Also I searched the US News, UMN ranks Top3 in Human Resource Management.

Q4: How many university did you apply? Why UMN?
A4: 10 university. 2 give me scholarship. 5 give me admission. Do you want to know their names?( or do you want to see their admission letters)

Q5: What will you study in USA?
A5: I will study Human Resource and Industrial Relations in USA for 2 years.
Coz the I-20 form ,The normal length of this Program is 36 months, but in fact it only takes 2 years to accomplish. So, I printed the official Email from Admission Director of UMN which explain this.


Q6: Who will support your study in USA? What do they do? Can I see your certification of savings or bankbook?
A6: My parents will support my study. My father is a senior operation manager, his annual income is 116,000. my mother is a cost engineer, her annual income is 82,000. here are their certification of job and savings.
Or another expression:
My father is …,my mother is… their total annual income is 198,000.here are their certification of job and savings.


Q7: what is your plan after your graduation? Since you spend so much money on this, can you tell me your career goal?
A7: I will come back china find a job as a consultant in Hay Group in Beijing. Hay Group is a international Human Resource Management consulting company.
You know, in the employment Hay Group
Another Answer
I will come back china find a job in International Banks as a HR specialist, like Employee Training or Benefit and Compensation specialist. The reason why I choose International Banks is I Love this Industry and I Know this industry well. I once had a summer internship in Communication Bank of China. my graduate these is also on the Cross cultural management in International Banking business. Would you like to have a look?
如果他还继续问为什么银行，就说：
You see China’s development is rapidly recently years, especially finance and Banking business. While for this industry, it needs not only globalization, maybe more depends on localization. So, how to management local employees well, how to cooperate with local companies and government is crucial.


Q8: why not stay in USA? Why will you come back China?
A8: As you see, Chinese Economy develops very rapidly, the ratio of US dollar and Chinese RMB is example. There is huge demand of HR talents who has international education background and excellent professional skills in recent china. Like Citibank and HSBC just are compete with each other to search top HR talents in Beijing. While in USA, the development space is limited , coz the cultural background factor, especially for International student.

Q9: What do you think why you were rejected last time?
A9: I think I was too nervous last time and also didn’t explain the real normal length of MHRIR is 2 years. ( and maybe the VO just thought I still lack one year’s expense--$40,383/year.)


Q10: Anything new this time ?
A10: Of course yes. I bring the official email from the director of Admission office of UMN which can explain the study length and also the expense in UMN.

[ 本帖最后由 ruiruiyuyu 于 2007-7-16 14:56 编辑 ]

ruiruiyuyuUID: 2193711

re #10:嗯，你的意见真的很中肯。十分感谢你的提点。自己问自己，确实自信心指数太低。哎。。。遥想四年前高考，也是不自信。。。人说的本性难移吧
re#11:嗯，关于说多少个好象目前说法不一。不过多一事不如少一事，但既然已经如实说了，就这样了。多谢你的“国际学生申10多个很正常把”
re#12:紧张多少都会的，再牛的人都是。你我都要take it easy.

ryan79UID: 2363775

我 7月30 也要签了...好紧张

国有成均UID: 2148215

原帖由 xlzero_0 于 2007-7-16 19:12 发表
你说7个有I-20的也比10个强,再说哪有记录,10个完全有判定有移民倾向的

那不是每个人都有移民倾向了？
CMU有个Prof写过一个cs的申请指导就说建议美国人也申6-8个
国际学生申10多个很正常吧

fetusUID: 2122681

你1000的过程，问题和我的极其相似，估计是同一个VO吧

其实你的问题可能出现在两个方面
1。不够自信，问你父母工作的时候紧张什么呢？我们做了这么多的准备，尤其是材料，完全可以简单的告诉VO父母是做什么工作的，配合工资证明就ok了。VO也知道我们应该是带足了资金证明去的，相比之下，能够证明资金的来源资料就显得尤为重要

2。问题没回答到点子上，什么 I will pursue my master degree之类的废话我建议少说，VO每天面那么多人，听这些话烦死了都，问这些只是开启聊天的话题，注意我用了聊天，这就说明你忘记之前的准备，ok,没什么影响，只要你心里知道自己怎么想的。所以，你对2000的问题准备方面，回答为什么选这个学校，还是想想你独特的原因，什么排名之类的有点泛泛了。。。

lxwdhrUID: 2130492

我觉得说申请10个没问题，我同学说申请12个也过了，说得少了VO也不信，人家又不傻。美国学生申请还都6，7个呢

奸妃UID: 2297269

帕特

ruiruiyuyuUID: 2193711

可是问题是1000这样说了，2000还能说成7个么？好像也不行吧。
我当时前一个GG也说的10个，过了。。。
不过，我觉得我的问题应该还是回国计化和选校里有没说好。。。

xlzero_0UID: 2129275

你说7个有I-20的也比10个强,再说哪有记录,10个完全有判定有移民倾向的

ruiruiyuyuUID: 2193711

re #2,近期存款我很多同学都说一般不问，不过还是想解释下，有之前买车子的证明。。。
re #3,问题是学校都发I-20勒，据说他有记录，如果说少了不知道有事没，我有7个I-20啊
re #4,其实也不完全多少的问题，还是存期短的问题
还有，谢谢大家关注。还望有N人帮看看我的回答问题有没改进阿。。。。。先谢了

zhanglixiangUID: 2243532

一年总共4万美圆还算多啊??? 那我不死定了?!

xlzero_0UID: 2129275

申请10个也太多了吧啊

skyssUID: 2283647

加油！:) 存期近的问题怎么解释呢？