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Despite the content of this article, two aspects of this debate impressed me most.

First, although this is a long debate compared with our previous assignments, as we have been left two days to deal with it, there are not too much new vocabularies in it. However, both arguers are able to express their views clearly and support their conclusions convincingly. As for most of us, using long and complex sentences, as well as lesser-known vocabularies the first aim of their writing rather than to express points of views what he want to express, which may merely bring readers obstacles and have nothing to do with being considered as a writing master.

Second, both arguers’ debates are under a well organized logical structure, but they use long piece of writing respectively. As a examinee of AW who are only given 30mins for the argument structure organizing and words outputting, to express what we want to say within such a limited time is one of the most serious challenges we face.

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Executive pay

This house believes that on the whole, senior executives are worth what they are paid


About this debate

Over the past few decades executive pay has risen dramatically. Bosses who were once paid ten times as much as shopfloor workers are now sometimes paid as much as 300 times as much. This trend was never popular, even during good times. But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.

Is the anger justified? Some argue that executive pay is a long-standing disgrace(耻辱). Pay is often not tethered to(用绳子栓住) performance. Huge rewards for the few demotivate the rest of the workforce. Others are more sanguine. Successful executives, such as Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric, can add hugely to a firm's profitability, benefiting workers, managers and shareholders alike. The growing pay of executives has to be balanced against the growing difficulty of their jobs, particularly as turnover in the boardroom increases.

Opening statements

Defending the motion

Steven N. Kaplan Neubauer Family Prof. of Entrepreneurship & Finance, University of Chicago Booth School of Business

In the United States, the United Kingdom and elsewhere, CEOs are routinely criticised for being overpaid.

Against the motion

Nell  Minow Editor and Co-founder, The Corporate Library

Excessive executive compensation of the past decade is both a symptom and a cause of the current economic mess.

The moderator's opening remarks

Oct 20th 2009 |   Adrian  Wooldridge

Oneof the few things that anti-globalisation campaigners and stockmarketinvestors agree upon is that executive pay is out of control.
Itis not hard to understand this shared outrage: executive pay hasexploded since the 1980s. For most of the postwar era executives earneda few multiples of the median pay. But thereafter, starting in Americaand slowly spreading to the rest of the world, the multiples increased exponentially. Today many American workers earn in a year what theirboss takes home in an evening.
Isn't this a disgrace? Critics ofexecutive pay worry that even mediocre bosses are given outsizedrewards. Robert Nardelli received a $20m pay-off when he left HomeDepot even though the share price had fallen during his six-yeartenure. Carly Fiorina was $180m better off when she leftHewlett-Packard despite a lacklustre tenure. Defenders of executive payargue that great bosses such as Louis Gerstner, the former boss of IBM,and Jack Welch, the former boss of General Electric, are worth everypenny because they create huge amounts of wealth for both shareholdersand employees.
The debate about executive pay, though never cool,is particularly hot at the moment. Workers have been squeezed by therecession. Unemployment is approaching 10% in the United States andmuch higher numbers in many other countries. Numerous governments areplanning to deal with their rising deficits by freezing public-sectorpay. And yet many bosses and bankers continue to make out likebandits—or so lots of people think.
We are lucky to have two ofthe best people in the business to debate this subject. Steven Kaplan,who proposes the motion, teaches at the University of Chicago's BoothSchool of Business. Nell Minow, who opposes it, is a long-timeshareholder activist and chairwoman of the Corporate Library, aresearch company. (For people who want to know more about her she isalso the subject of a profile in a recent issue of the New Yorker.)
MrKaplan starts off by making two fundamental points. CEO pay has notgone up in recent years; indeed, it has been dropping since 2000,particularly in relation to other well-paid groups, such as hedge fundmanagers, lawyers, consultants and professional athletes. Nor is CEOpay unrelated to performance. Boards are increasingly willing to fireCEOs for poor performance.
Ms Minow focuses heavily on therelationship between pay and the recent credit crunch. She points outthat executive pay helped to create the mess in the first place:Countrywide's CEO, Angelo Mozillo, made more than $550m during his timein office. She also points out that the fact that many companies thatwere bailed out by the government continue to pay their CEOs hugesalaries and bonuses is damaging the credibility of the system.
Suchbold opening statements raise questions galore. Is Mr Kaplan justifiedin starting his account in 2000 rather than 1980, when executive payexploded. And is Ms Minow right to concentrate so heavily on thefinancial sector? These are only a couple of the questions that we needto thrash out in the coming days.


The proposer's opening remarks
Oct 20th 2009 |   Steven N. Kaplan

In the United States, the United Kingdom and elsewhere, CEOs are routinelycriticised for being overpaid. Critics argue that boards do not respondto market forces, but, instead, are dominated by or are over-generousto their CEOs. Boards are criticised for not tying CEOs' pay toperformance. These criticisms have been exacerbated by the financialcrisis and the desire to find scapegoats(替罪羊).
I argue below that thecritics are wrong and that there are many misperceptions of CEO pay.While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by marketforces and performance. Contrary to public perception, CEO pay has notgone up in recent years. In fact, the average CEO pay (adjusted forinflation) has dropped since 2000, while the pay of other groups hasincreased substantially. Similarly, the view that CEOs are not paid forperformance is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true and boardsincreasingly fire them for poor performance. And, most recently,consistent with market forces driving pay, the US and UK governmentseach hired a new CEO (of AIG and the Royal Bank of Scotland) for payexceeding that of the median large company CEO.
It is useful tounderstand how CEO pay is measured. It includes three components:salary, bonus and stock-based pay. It is usually measured in two ways.The first is the sum of salary, bonus, restricted stock and theexpected value of stock options. I call this expected pay. Expected paymeasures what boards believe they awarded the CEO. This is the bestmeasure of what a CEO is paid each year. Note that the CEO does notactually walk away with this money. The second measure replacesexpected stock option values with values actually realized and realisedpay measures what CEOs walk away with.
The first graph shows average and median expected CEO pay forS&P 500 CEOs since 1994 (adjusted for inflation). It shows thatmedian CEO pay has been stable since 2001; it has not increased. Andaverage pay has declined substantially. In fact, average CEO pay in2008 is below the average in 1998.


Whileaverage CEO pay has declined, the pay of other highly paid groups hasincreased. The second graph shows S&P 500 CEO pay relative to theincome of the top 1% of US taxpayers. Relative to those other groups,CEOs are no better off in 2008 than in 1994. Strikingly, relative CEOpay is a half of what it was in 2001, a huge decline.


Whichare those groups that have earned increasingly high compensation? Hedgefund, private equity and venture capital investors have increased theirassets and fees substantially, translating into high pay. By oneestimate, the top three hedge fund managers earned more in 2007 thanall 500 S&P 500 CEOs combined. Professional athletes, investmentbankers, consultants and lawyers also have benefited greatly. Forexample, from 2004 to 2008, the inflation-adjusted pay of partners atthe top 20 law firms increased by 12% while that of S&P 500 CEOsdropped 12%. Those law firms had over 3,000 partners making an averageof $2.4m each.
One can look at the Obama administration for otherexamples. Larry Summers made $8m (more than the median S&P 500 CEO)giving speeches and working part-time for a hedge fund. Eric Holdermade $3.5m as a law partner.
So, while CEOs earn a lot, they arenot unique. The pay of people in the other groups has undoubtedly beendriven by market forces; all are compensated in arm's-length markets,not by cronies. Technology, globalisation and scale appear to haveincreased the market value of these groups. CEOs have not done betterand, by some measures, have done worse. Those who argue CEOs areoverpaid have to explain how CEOs can be overpaid and not subject tomarket forces, when the other groups are paid at least as well and aresubject to market forces.
Why is the pay of these other groupsrelevant for CEOs? Top executives regularly leave to work for privateequity firms and hedge funds. Law partners and consultants leave towork for public companies as general counsels and executives. Relativepay matters and all these groups are paid according to market demand.Markets are the driving force for senior executives in all theseindustries and talented people jump across industries, based on marketperceptions of their worth.
Critics also argue that CEO pay isnot tied to stock performance. Again, that is not true. Looking at whatCEOs actually receive—realised pay—Josh Rauh and I found that firmswith CEOs in the top decile of realised pay earned stock returns 90%above those of other firms in their industries over the previous fiveyears. Firms with CEOs in the bottom decile of realised payunderperformed by almost 40%. The typical CEO is paid for performance.
Thiswas reinforced in 2008, when average realised CEO pay declined by 25%(according to S&P's Execucomp). And Equilar, another provider ofCEO pay data, estimated that the typical CEO experienced a net worthdecline of over 40%.
The final myth to bust is that CEOs controltheir boards and earn high pay through this control and notperformance. In fact, CEO tenure has declined, from ten years in the1970s to six years today, and boards have got tougher on theirexecutives when they do not perform.
In sum, market forces governCEO compensation. CEOs are paid what they are worth. Talentedindividuals, who are perceived to be valuable, can move betweenindustries to be compensated well. The clearest example of this is thateven governments have to pay highly for talented executives. Recently,the Royal Bank of Scotland (under UK government control) hired a CEOwith a package worth up to $16m; AIG (under US government control)hired a CEO with a package worth up to $10.5m. For these critical jobs,both of these executives received compensation exceeding the pay of themedian S&P 500 CEO.


The opposition's opening remarks
Oct 20th 2009 | Nell  Minow

Excessiveexecutive compensation of the past decade is both a symptom and a causeof the current economic mess. And the post-meltdown awards are all butguaranteed to continue to create perverse incentives that will rewardmanagement and further damage the interests of shareholders and everyother participant in the economy.
Incentive compensation rewarded executives for the quantity of transactions rather than the quality of transactions. It inevitably led to failures like the subprime disaster(次代危机) and the dominoes(多米诺骨牌) it toppled as it took the economy down with it. Worstof all, the avalanche of post-bailout bonuses and departure packageslike the $53m Ken Lewis got from Bank of America have severely damagedthe credibility of Wall Street and the American financial markets as awhole. The billions of dollars of losses do not come close to thereputational hit to American capitalism, which will increase the costof capital for all US companies.
Panglossian observers willalways be able to find some metric to justify any level of pay. But theresults speak for themselves. The decisions that led to the meltdownwere made by executives who knew that they would be paid tens, evenhundreds of millions of dollars no matter how successful theconsequences of those decisions.
Let us look at ground zero ofthe subprime mess, Countrywide, where Angelo Mozilo made more than$550m during his time as CEO. When the compensation committee tried toobject to his pay levels, he hired another compensation consultant,paid for by the shareholders, to push them into giving him more. Healso pushed for, and was given, shareholder subsidies, not just for hiswife's travel on the corporate jet but for the taxes on the imputedincome from that travel. Instead of telling Mr Mozilo that he had nobusiness asking the shareholders to subsidise his taxes, the boardmeekly signed off on it, making it clear to everyone in the executivesuite that the pay-performance link was not a priority.
By theend of 2007, when Countrywide finally revealed the losses it hadpreviously obscured, shareholders lost more than 78% of theirinvestment value. Meanwhile, in early 2007 Mr Mozilo sold over $127m inexercised stock options before July 24th 2007, when he announced a$388m write-down on profits. Before the bailout, Countrywide narrowlyavoided bankruptcy by taking out an emergency loan of $11 billion froma group of banks. Mr Mozilo continued to sell off shares, and by theend of 2007 he had sold an additional $30m in exercised stock options.There is the definition of outrageously excessive compensation.
Countrywideresponded to a shareholder proposal that year asking for a non-bindingadvisory vote on its pay plan by urging shareholders to oppose itbecause "Countrywide has been an outstanding performer" and because"The Board's Compensation Committee has access to the best informationon compensation practices and has a thorough process in place todetermine appropriate executive pay." They could hardly have doneworse. And it is likely that some market feedback on the structure ofthe pay plan could have given compensation committee members Harley W.Snyder (chair), Robert J. Donato, Michael E. Dougherty and Oscar P.Robertson worthwhile guidance.
Michelle Leder of theindispensable Footnoted.org website discovered that Frank A. Keating,Charles T. Maxwell and Frederick B. Whittemore, the compensationcommittee at Chesapeake Energy, not only paid the CEO, AubreyMcClendon, $100m, a 500% increase as the stock dropped 60% and theprofits went down 50%, they spent $4.6m of the shareholders' money tosponsor a basketball team of which Mr McClendon owns a 19% stake, theypurchased catering services from a restaurant which he owns just undera half of, and they took his collection of antique maps off his handsfor $12.1m of the shareholders' money, based on a valuation from theconsultant who advised Mr McClendon on assembling the collection. Theboard justified this by referring to Mr McClendon's having to sell morethan $1 billion worth of stock due to margin calls, his havingconcluded four important deals and the benefit to employee morale fromhaving the maps on display in the office. A market-based response wouldbe: (1) that was his risk and it is inappropriate to the point ofmisappropriation to force the other shareholders, already substantiallyout of pocket with their own losses due to his poor leadership of theorganisation, make up for his losses (2) if the deals are good ones, hewill be adequately rewarded when the benefit of those deals isreflected in the stock price; and (3) you have got to be kidding. Ifthis is pay for performance, what exactly is the performance we arepaying for?
These may be anecdotes, but they are illuminatingones. The numbers and details may be at the extreme, but the underlyingapproaches are representative. Even as outliers, they still demonstratethe failure of the system to ensure a vigorous, arm's-length system fordetermining pay and the inability of the system to require an effectiveincentive programme with a genuine downside as well as an upside.
Inmy comments, I will discuss the seven deadliest sins of executivecompensation, the two key elements that are essential for any plan thatmerits support from investors and the only metric that matters inlooking at pay.

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I am against the opinion of this house and  I will argue in the following passenge that  senior executives are not worth what they are paid in the recent years.

Over the past few years executive pay has been risen dramatically, which is a shock to everyone compared to the dropping economy because of the economic crisis.  Some argue that their pay is actually dropping if we take the expasion into account and it is lower compaired with the other high-paid jobs such as lawyers and conculsants, whose pay is rising much faster and still in a highest level. Now I will explain why this statement is totally wrong.

First, Bosses who were once paid ten times as much as shopfloor workers are now sometimes paid as much as 300 times as much. This trend was never popular, even during good times. But today it is becoming radioactive. 300 times or more compaired with ten times! Who can say this is not a dramatic rise in pay?

Second, it is unfair to argue that the pay of CEOs should be high because other well-paid groups get much higher pay.  Lawyers get high salary because they help the court make decisions and thus make the world peacful. Consultants get high salary because they help each company work well. Professional athletes  get high salary because they win honors for their country. But why should the CEOs get high salary when the economy is dropping so fast? Now the economy is in crisis because of their bad performance.

sorry, I'm not familiar with any CEO, so their are few proofs or evidence in this comment. That's where I should do better in my writing~

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My Sum-Up

[Topic: Executive pay]
Issue: This house believes that on the whole, senior executive are worth what they are pay.


[About this debate]
The trend of much higher executive pay is radioactive.
Disagree: Huge pay is seldom tethered to performance and thus it demotivates other workforce.
Agree: Successful executives add hugely to a firm’s profitability and do hard works.


[Opening Statement]


The moderator's opening remarks
Executive pay is out of control.
Evidence: Executive pay has exploded since the 1980s..
Question: Isn’t his a disgrace? (Opinions and Examples)Critics vs. Defenders: Be given outsized rewards vs. Be worth every penny)
Background: Unemployment, government expenditures, bosses and bankers.
An introduction: Defender and Critic
Defender: 1) CEO pay has not gone up but dropped, comparing with other well-paid groups; 2) CEO pay is related to performance
Critic: There is relationship between pay and the recent credit crunch.1) Executive pay helped to create the mess; 2) Continuing huge pay damage the credibility of bailing out system.


The proposer's opening remarks Steven N. Kaplan
Thesis Critics have been in psychologically imbalance.
1【Reason CEO pay is driven by market forces and performance.
1.1『Evidence1.1CEO pay has not gone up but dropped, comparing with other well-paid groups
[Measurement]How CEO pay is measured: Three components measured in two ways.

[Description]The wave of (average and median) expected pay (with data)
[Comparison] Other well-paid groups (Data)
[Description] About the well-paid groups (Classification and Examples)
[Sub Argument]CEOs are not unique. Their pay has been pay driven by market forces as people in the other groups. [Defense] Critics must explain how CEO can be overpaid and not subject to market forces while other groups are consistent to market.
1.2『Evidence1.2:The pay of other groups is relevant for CEOs, because relative pay matters (the occupation they choose) and payment are according to market demand.
2【Reason CEO pay is tied to stock performance.
Evidence2 Examples and Data
3【Reason CEOs do not control their boards.
Evidence3 CEO tenure has declined and CEO has been treated tougher by boards.

ConclusionMarket forces govern CEO compensation.[Examples]Governments payment


The opposition's opening remarks
Nell  Minow

ThesisExcessive executive compensation is both a symptom and a cause of the current economic mess.
ReasonIncentive compensation rewarded executives for the quantity of transactions rather than the quality of transactions which led to subprime disaster.

Evidence1[Example] CEO Angelo Mozilo and his shareholders.

Evidence2[Example] Aubrey McClendon

ConclusionThere are deadly sins of executive compensation.


Reference
The pay of people in the other groups has undoubtedly been driven by market forces; all are compensated in arm's-length markets, not by cronies.
Arm's-length markets

A financial market in which parties engaging in transactions are separate and have no contact with each other outside of the buying and selling of securities. In the case of the stock market, most investors will never know from whom they are buying securities or to whom they are selling them.
http://www.investorwords.com/6403/arms_length_market.html

Arm's length principle
The arm's length principle (ALP) is the condition or the fact that the parties to a transaction are independent and on an equal footing. Such a transaction is known as an "arm's-length transaction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm's_length_principle
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Sentences and Phrases
This trend was never popular, even during good times. But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.
Popular=radioactive
Tighten ones’belts=Retrenchment

These are only a couple of the questions that we need to thrash out in the coming days.
Thrash out=discuss and solve (A Plan, Problem or Agreement)

The multiples increased exponentially.


These criticisms have been exacerbated by the financial crisis and the desire to find scapegoats.



And the post-meltdown awards are all but guaranteed to continue to create perverse incentives.


Functional Senteces
Introduction to topic
The debate about executive pay, though never cool, is particularly hot at the moment.


Argument: Call out questions to a claim
Such bold opening statements raise questions galore.


Issue or Argument: Contradiction to misperceptions
1) I argue below that the critics are wrong and that there are many misperceptions
of CEO pay. While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by market forces and performance.Contrary to public perception, CEO pay has not gone up in recent years. In fact, the average CEO pay (adjusted for inflation) has dropped since 2000, while the pay of other groups has increased substantially.
2) Similarly, the view that CEOs are not paid for performance is wrong.
3) Those who argue CEOs are overpaid have to explain how CEOs can be overpaid and not subject to market forces, when the other groups are paid at least as well and are subject to market forces.



Euphemism when details are too extreme

These may be anecdotes, but they are illuminating ones. The numbers and details may be at the extreme, but the underlying approaches are representative.

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My Comments



Part One: Comment on the Proposer
Only after reading Debates from Economists do I truly realized what sentences mean as follows:



[AW Intro-Issue]

Once you have decided on a position to defend, consider the perspective of others who might not agree with your position. Ask yourself:

What reasons might someone use to refute or undermine my position?

How should I acknowledge or defend against those views in my essay?




Here are examples:



1)I argue below that the critics are wrong and that there are many misperceptions of CEO pay.While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by market forces and performance.


2)Critics also argue that CEO pay is not tied to stock performance.
Looking at what CEOs actually receive
realised payJosh Rauh and I found.


3)The final myth to bust is that CEOs control their boards and earn high pay through this control and not performance.In fact, CEO tenure has declined



The author successfully consider the perspective of others and give reasons one by one to defend agansit them. That's what the most valuable thing we should learn from this article! Excellent!

But I have questions on reason2 and its evidence.
Although I admire the persuasive writing and logical thinking of Steven N. Kaplan as the defender, I cannot help myself arguing for an assumption ignored by Mr. Kaplan.



My question is how to measure performance of CEOs?

Steven N. Kaplan has showed how CEO pay is measured with three components in two ways. But that cannot explain if executives are well worth their pay. To a company, a CEO must create value more than his or her payment; otherwise board would treat the CEO as worthless person. Thus, the author makes significant mistakes when he placed too much emphasis on change and comparison of payment in positions, but ignored talking about how much they create for the company.

We find it hard to know how much do executives contribute to their company. CEOs macroscopically control the company and they are out of specific affairs. So there are no exact or detailed ways for calculation of their performance. In contrast, what salesmen contribute can be seem as the quantity they sold, while performance of product R&D personnel can be measured after calculation of sales and costs in their invention. Thus, how could we draw the conclusion that CEOs are worth what they are pay when we do not know how much do they create?

The author illustrates the relationship between the payment of CEOs and the stock performance of their company, in order to argue critics like me:
“Josh Rauh and I found that firms with CEOs in the top decile of realised pay earned stock returns 90% above those of other firms in their industries over the previous five year. Firms with CEOs in the bottom decile of realised pay under performed by almost 40%.”

As far as I concern, Mr. Kaplan may mistakenly treat correlation as causation. Even worse, he may turn around the cause and effect. The top firms perhaps tend to pay highly for their CEOs because such firms are strong with high stock returns itself . Similarly, firms in bad condition cannot afford high payment for their executives. Outstanding executives in high realized pay perhaps really help a lot. But the question is still unsolved when no evidence show if values they create are well worth their high salary, bonus and stock.




Part Two: Comment on the Opposition
When I read the first and second paragraph, hardly can I believe such a stupid mistakes come from a long-time shareholder activist and chairwoman.



Nell Minow wrote:“The decisions that led to the meltdown were made by executives who knew that they would be paid tens, even hundreds of millions of dollars no matter how successful the consequences of those decisions.”



In fact, it is well known that the most important component of CEOs’ payment is stock-base pay. CEOs really care the consequence of their decisions which directly affect their stock returns. So it is really ridiculous to treat CEOs as workers who work very passively due to fixed salaries.



However, when I come to the next paragraphs, I know what the author means. I am sorry that I misunderstand the purpose of Ms. Minow. It is impossible for her to ignore the relationship between rewards and stock price. The example of Aubrey McClendon is valid, and I think I am one of those people who she was talking to “…you have got to be kidding. If this is pay for performance, what exactly is the performance we are paying for?”



Then Mr. Minow again surprises me. She wrote:” These may be anecdotes, but they are illuminating ones. The numbers and details may be at the extreme, but the underlying approaches are representative.”Well, I cannot but admit these two cases really serve as illuminating ones. I cannot but agree other executives may more or less use similar approaches for their own profits. She is right.



But, we cannot simply treat other executives as Angelo Mozilo and Aubrey McClendon. They are extreme examples, as what Nell said. Such great power to control boards, like raise in payment or misappropriation by enforce the other shareholders, is very very rare.


Part Three: My Perspectives on Both Side

All in all, Steven N. Kaplan is a good scholar. He supported his issue in a boarder view and discuss questions as a whole, while Nell Minow only used two examples, though they are strong, to criticize executive pay.



Although Mr. Kaplan didn’t completely persuade me because he didn’t suggest a way to compare value created by executives with their payment, he really does an excellent work to show CEOs have not been in a better situation than before. Nell Minow’s examples are illuminating and persuasive, but their range for explanation is too limited.



I believe most of people would like to accept what Ms Minow said, but I personally prefer Mr. Kaplan because of his explanatory power. That is the difference between scholar and business woman.

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Executive pay
New words
executive pay 高管薪酬
shopfloor 车间里
tether 拘束,栓
sanguine 乐观的
mediocre 平凡的
his six-year tenure任期
shareholder 股东
crunch 对冲紧缩
galore 大量的
exacerbate 恶化
scapegoat 替罪羔羊
substantially 大大地

Good sentences
But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.
The moderator's opening remarks
It is not hard to understand this shared outrage 愤怒: executive pay has exploded since the 1980s.
But there after, starting in America and slowly spreading to the rest of the world, the multiples increased exponentially.
These criticisms have been exacerbated by the financial crisis and the desire to find scapegoats.
In fact, the opposite is true and boards increasingly fire them for poor performance.
Strikingly, relative CEO pay is a half of what it was in 2001, a huge decline.
By one estimate, the top three hedge fund managers earned more in 2007 than all 500 S&P 500 CEOs combined.  学习这个比较的句子!
For example, from 2004 to 2008, the inflation-adjusted pay of partners at the top 20 law firms increased by 12% while that of S&P 500 CEOs dropped 12%.   终于找到while表示然而的例句了~
So, while CEOs earn a lot, they are not unique.  这个while我猜是让步..
Panglossian observers will always be able to find some metric 公尺的 to justify any level of pay.
The growing pay of executives has to be balanced against the growingdifficulty of their jobs, particularly as turnover in the boardroomincreases.
My comment
At least, this is the first time I have read the debate about thetopic. Some people reckon that executive pays are so high which is nottethered to their performance. However, others hold the idea that thehighly pay of executives is both a symptom and a cause of the currenteconomic mess. As far as I am concerned, I don't know the specificnumber about the difference between the salary of CEO and the averagesalary among people in China. But CEO really earns a huge amount ofmoney due to his responsibility and the importance of his position sothat he could try his best to maintain a company's business. Therelationship with executive pay and the board is not so clear. All Ilearned is the structure of an argument and some wonderful writings. Iam wondering if I should learn some commercial words in English to better express my thought, not only those GRE words...

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本帖最后由 qxn_1987 于 2009-12-26 00:57 编辑

But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.

Is the anger justified? Some argue that executive pay is a long-standing
(长期存在的) disgrace. Pay is often not tethered to performance. Huge rewards for the few demotivate the rest of the workforce. Others are more sanguine. Successful executives, such as Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric, can add hugely to a firm's profitability, benefiting workers, managers and shareholders alike. The growing pay of executives has to be balanced against the growing difficulty of their jobs, particularly as turnover in the boardroom increases.

背景资料:

Executive compensation is the total remuneration or financial compensation a top executive receives within a corporation. This includes a basic salary, any and all bonuses, shares, options, and any other company benefit. Over the past three decades, executive compensation has risen dramatically beyond the rising levels of an average worker's wage. Executive compensation is an important part of corporate governance, and is often determined by a company's board of directors.CriticismMany newspaper stories show people expressing concern that CEOs are paid too much for the services they provide. In Searching for a Corporate Savior: The Irrational Quest for Charismatic CEOs, Harvard Business School professor Rakesh Khurana documents the problem of excessive CEO compensation, showing that the return on investment from these pay packages(综合工资) is very poor compared to other outlays (费用) of corporate resources.
Defenders of high executive pay say that the global war for talent and the rise of private equity firms can explain much of the increase in executive pay. For example, while in conservative Japan a senior executive has few alternatives to his current employer, in the United States it is acceptable and even admirable for a senior executive to jump to a competitor, to a private equity firm, or to a private equity portfolio company. Portfolio company executives take a pay cut but are routinely granted stock options for ownership of ten percent of the portfolio company, contingent on a successful tenure. Rather than signaling a conspiracy, defenders argue, the increase in executive pay is a mere byproduct of supply and demand for executive talent. However, U.S. executives make substantially more than their European and Asian counterparts.
Shareholders, often members of the Council of Institutional Investors or the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility have often filed shareholder resolutions in protest. 21 such resolutions were filed in 2003. About a dozen were voted on in 2007, with two coming very close to passing (at Verizon, a recount is currently in progress). The U.S. Congress is currently debating mandating shareholder approval of executive pay packages at publicly traded U.S. companies.
The U.S. stood first in the world in 2005 with a ratio of 39:1 CEO's compensation to pay of manufacturing production workers. Britain second with 31.8:1; Italy third with 25.9:1, New Zealand fourth with 24.9:1.[14]

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But thereafter, starting in America and slowly spreading to the rest of the world, the multiples increased exponentially. Today many American workers earn in a year what their boss takes home in an evening.

Isn't this a disgrace? Critics of executive pay worry that even mediocre(普普通通的) bosses are given outsized rewards. Robert Nardelli received a $20m pay-off when he left Home Depot even though the share price had fallen during his six-year tenure. Carly Fiorina was $180m better off when she left Hewlett-Packard despite a lacklustre tenure. Defenders of executive pay argue that great bosses such as Louis Gerstner, the former boss of IBM, and Jack Welch, the former boss of General Electric, are worth every penny because they create huge amounts of wealth for both shareholders and employees.

Critics argue that boards do not respond to market forces, but, instead, are dominated by or are over-generous to their CEOs. Boards are criticised for not tying CEOs' pay to performance. These criticisms have been exacerbated by the financial crisis and the desire to find scapegoats(替罪羊).

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A board of directors is a body of elected or appointed members who jointly oversee the activities of a company or organization. The body sometimes has a different name, such as board of trustees, board of governors, board of managers, or executive board. It is often simply referred to as "the board."

A board's activities are determined by the powers, duties, and responsibilities delegated to it or conferred on it by an authority outside itself. These matters are typically detailed in the organization's bylaws. The bylaws commonly also specify the number of members of the board, how they are to be chosen, and when they are to meet.

In an organization with voting members, e.g., a professional society, the board acts on behalf of, and is subordinate to, the organization's full assembly, which usually chooses the members of the board. In a stock corporation, the board is elected by the stockholders and is the highest authority in the management of the corporation. In a nonstock corporation with no general voting membership, e.g., a university, the board is the supreme governing body of the institution.

Typical duties of boards of directors include

  • governing the organization by establishing broad policies and objectives;
  • selecting, appointing, supporting and reviewing the performance of the chief executive;
  • ensuring the availability of adequate financial resources;
  • approving annual budgets;
  • accounting to the stakeholders for the organization's performance.

The legal responsibilities of boards and board members vary with the nature of the organization, and with the jurisdiction within which it operates. For public corporations, these responsibilities are typically much more rigorous and complex than for those of other types.

I argue below that the critics are wrong and that there are many misperceptions of CEO pay. While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by market forces and performance. Contrary to public perception, CEO pay has not gone up in recent years. In fact, the average CEO pay (adjusted for inflation) has dropped since 2000, while the pay of other groups has increased substantially. Similarly, the view that CEOs are not paid for performance is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true and boards increasingly fire them for poor performance. And, most recently, consistent with market forces driving pay, the US and UK governments each hired a new CEO (of AIG and the Royal Bank of Scotland) for pay exceeding that of the median large company CEO.

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Stock optionsSupporters of stock options say they align the interests of CEOs to those of shareholders, since options are valuable only if the stock price remains above the option's strike price. Stock options are now counted as a corporate expense (non-cash), which impacts a company's income statement and makes the distribution of options more transparent to shareholders. Critics of stock options charge that they are granted excessively and that they invite management abuses such as the options backdating of such grants. Stock options also pose a conflict of interest in which a CEO can artificially raise the stock price to cash in stock options at the expense of the company's long-term health, although this is a problem for any type of incentive compensation that goes unmonitored by directors. Indeed, "reload" stock options allow executives to exercise options and then replace them in part (and sometimes in whole), essentially selling the company stock short (i.e., profiting from the stock's decline). For various reasons, including the accounting charge, concerns about dilution and negative publicity related to stock options, companies have reduced the size of grants to executives.
Stock options also incentivize executives to engage in risk-seeking behavior. This is because the value of a call option increases with increased volatility. (cf. options pricing). Stock options therefore - even when used legitimately - can incentivize excessive risk seeking behavior that can lead to catastrophic corporate failure.
In the Financial crisis of 2007-2009 in the United States, pressure mounted to use more stock options than cash in executive pay. However, since many then-proportionally larger 2008 bonuses were awarded in February, 2009, near the March, 2009, bottom of the stock market, many of the bonuses in the banking industry turned out to have doubled or more in paper value by late in 2009. The bonuses were under particular scrutiny, including by the United States Treasury’s new special master of pay, Kenneth R. Feinberg, because many of the firms had been rescued by government Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and other funds.[2]
Compensation protectionSenior executives may enjoy considerable income protection unavailable to many other employees. Often executives may receive a Golden Parachute(黄金降落伞企业的高级管理层或离任的政府官员在他们失去原来的工作后在经济上给予其丰厚的保障安排) that rewards them substantially if the company gets taken over or they lose their jobs for other reasons. This can create perverse incentives.
One example is that overly attractive Golden Parachutes may incentivize executives to facilitate the sale of their company at a price that is not in their shareholders' best interests.
It is fairly easy for a top executive to reduce the price of his/her company's stock - due to information asymmetry. The executive can accelerate accounting of expected expenses, delay accounting of expected revenue, engage in off balance sheet transactions to make the company's profitability appear temporarily poorer, or simply promote and report severely conservative (eg. pessimistic) estimates of future earnings. Such seemingly adverse earnings news will be likely to (at least temporarily) reduce share price. (This is again due to information asymmetries since it is more common for top executives to do everything they can to window dress their company's earnings forecasts).
A reduced share price makes a company an easier takeover target. When the company gets bought out (or taken private) - at a dramatically lower price - the takeover artist gains a windfall from the former top executive's actions to surreptitiously reduce share price. This can represent 10s of billions of dollars (questionably) transferred from previous shareholders to the takeover artist. The former top executive is then rewarded with a golden handshake for presiding over the firesale that can sometimes be in the 100s of millions of dollars for one or two years of work. (This is nevertheless an excellent bargain for the takeover artist, who will tend to benefit from developing a reputation of being very generous to parting top executives).
Similar issues occur when a publicly held asset or non-profit organization undergoes privatization. Top executives often reap tremendous monetary benefits when a government owned, mutual or non-profit entity is sold to private hands. Just as in the example above, they can facilitate this process by making the entity appear to be in financial crisis - this reduces the sale price (to the profit of the purchaser), and makes non-profits and governments more likely to sell. Ironically, it can also contribute to a public perception that private entities are more efficiently run reinforcing the political will to sell of public assets.
Again, due to asymmetric information, policy makers and the general public see a government owned firm that was a financial 'disaster' - miraculously turned around by the private sector (and typically resold) within a few years.

The pay of people in the other groups has undoubtedly been driven by market forces; all are compensated in arm's-length markets, not by cronies. Technology, globalisation and scale appear to have increased the market value of these groups. CEOs have not done better and, by some measures, have done worse. Those who argue CEOs are overpaid have to explain how CEOs can be overpaid and not subject to market forces, when the other groups are paid at least as well and are subject to market forces.

The final myth to bust is that CEOs control their boards and earn high pay through this control and not performance. In fact, CEO tenure has declined, from ten years in the 1970s to six years today, and boards have got tougher on their executives when they do not perform.

Incentive compensation(奖金) rewarded executives for the quantity of transactions rather than the quality of transactions. It inevitably led to failures like the subprime disaster and the dominoes it toppled as it took the economy down with it. Worst of all, the avalanche of post-bailout bonuses and departure packages like the $53m Ken Lewis got from Bank of America have severely damaged the credibility of Wall Street and the American financial markets as a whole. The billions of dollars of losses do not come close to the reputational hit to American capitalism, which will increase the cost of capital for all US companies.

Panglossian observers will always be able to find some metric to justify any level of pay.
(?)But the results speak for themselves. The decisions that led to the meltdown were made by executives who knew that they would be paid tens, even hundreds of millions of dollars no matter how successful the consequences of those decisions.

Let us look at ground zero爆心投影点组织,成立于华盛顿,宣传核爆炸的毁灭性) of the subprime mess, Countrywide, where Angelo Mozilo made more than $550m during his time as CEO. When the compensation committee tried to object to his pay levels, he hired another compensation consultant, paid for by the shareholders, to push them into giving him more. He also pushed for(奋力争取), and was given, shareholder subsidies, not just for his wife's travel on the corporate jet but for the taxes on the imputed income(推算收入) from that travel. Instead of telling Mr Mozilo that he had no business asking the shareholders to subsidise his taxes, the board meekly signed off(停止活动) on it, making it clear to everyone in the executive suite that the pay-performance link was not a priority.

By the end of 2007, when Countrywide finally revealed the losses it had previously obscured, shareholders lost more than 78% of their investment value. Meanwhile, in early 2007 Mr Mozilo sold over $127m in exercised stock options before July 24th 2007, when he announced a $388m write-down on profits. Before the bailout, Countrywide narrowly avoided bankruptcy by taking out an emergency loan of $11 billion from a group of banks. Mr Mozilo continued to sell off(廉价清卖;廉价清仓) shares, and by the end of 2007 he had sold an additional $30m in exercised stock options. There is the definition of outrageously excessive compensation.

Countrywide responded to a shareholder proposal that year asking for a non-binding advisory vote on its pay plan by urging shareholders to oppose it because "Countrywide has been an outstanding performer" and because "The Board's Compensation Committee has access to the best information on compensation practices and has a thorough process in place to determine appropriate executive pay." They could hardly have done worse. And it is likely that some market feedback on the structure of the pay plan could have given compensation committee members Harley W. Snyder (chair), Robert J. Donato, Michael E. Dougherty and Oscar P. Robertson worthwhile guidance.

These may be anecdotes, but they are illuminating ones. The numbers and details may be at the extreme, but the underlying approaches are representative. Even as outliers, they still demonstrate the failure of the system to ensure a vigorous, arm's-length system for determining pay and the inability of the system to require an effective incentive programme with a genuine downside as well as an upside.

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The phenomenon of the sharp rising of executive pay has given rise to a heated discussion that: whether executives are over-paid. The debates can be divided, basically, into two groups: the proposer’s opening remarks, such as Kaplan’s argument, and the opposition’s opening remarks, such as Minow’s opinions.

1.        Kaplan’s argument: Maybe there is somebody think that Kaplan’s argument is not so compelling and persuasive, for mistaking that he has failed to argues why the executives are worth what they are paid,directly, frankly, soundly, and obviously. Nonetheless, from my personal point of view, his argument is just convictive and concise. First, since the reasons why critics reckon the executives are overpaid are as follows: (1) Executive pay has risen dramatically; (2) Executive pay is often not tethered to performance, Kaplan then set out to refute them mainly by citing two graphs. Eventually, he concludes that CEO pay has not gone up, even declined, and CEOs are paid for their performance; what’s more, executive pay is subject to market forces. Therefore, evidently, we cannot conclude that executives are not worth what they are paid from the reasons above which are unreasonable.

2.        Minow’s argument: In my personal view, I don’t think she has argued forcefully, since she has just presented several anecdotes of some executives. Admittedly, the examples are vivid, and can debunk inside story of a plot to some extent, nonetheless, just several examples of executives cannot represent most executives. As a result, strikingly, we cannot conclude persuasively and confidently that executives are not worth what they are paid.

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Logic is the main theme. For the debate could be verbally carried out, there is little to absorb from the language.

But both sides are not firing on the pin of others. K has been stressing the figures adjusted to inflation, and M arguing on the current trend of the mass opinions. Expecting the second article of both.

Executive pay

This house believes that on the whole, senior executives are worth what they are paid


About this debate

Over the past few decades executive pay has risen dramatically. Bosses who were once paid ten times as much as shop floor workers are now sometimes paid as much as 300 times as much. This trend was never popular, even during good times. But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.


Is the anger justified? Some argue that executive pay is a long-standing disgrace. Pay is often not tethered to performance. Huge rewards for the few demotivate the rest of the workforce. Others are more sanguine. Successful executives, such as Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric, can add hugely to a firm’s profitability, benefiting workers, managers and shareholders alike. The growing pay of executives has to be balanced against the growing difficulty of their jobs, particularly as turnover in the boardroom increases.


D. Kaplan
A. Minow


One of the few things that anti-globalization campaigners and stock market investors agree upon is that executive pay is out of control.

It is not hard to understand this shared outrage: executive pay has exploded since the 1980s. For most of the postwar era executives earned a few multiples of the median pay. But thereafter, starting in America and slowly spreading to the rest of the world, the multiples increased exponentially. Today many American workers earn in a year what their boss takes home in an evening.


Isn’t this a disgrace? Critics of executive pay worry that even mediocre bosses are given outsized rewards. Robert Nardelli received a $20m pay-off when he left Home Depot even though the share price had fallen during his six-year tenure. Carly Fiorina was $180 better off when she left Hewlett-Packard despite a lackluster tenure. Defenders of executive pay argue that great bosses such as Louis Gerstner, the former boss of IBM, and Jack Welch, the former boss of General Electric, are worth every penny because they create huge amounts of wealth for both share holders and employers.


The debate about executive pay, though never cool, is particularly hot at the moment. Workers have been squeezed by the recession. Unemployment is approaching 10% in the United States and much higher numbers in many other countries. Numerous governments are planning to deal with their rising deficits by freezing public-sector pay. And yet many bosses and bankers continue to make out like bandits – or so lots of people think.


We are lucky to have two of the best people in the business to debate this subject. Steven Kaplan, who proposes the motion, teaches at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business. Nell Minow, who opposes it, is a long-time shareholder activist and chairwoman of the Corporate Library, a research company. (For people who wants to know more about her she is also the subject of a profile in a recent issue of the New Yorker.)


Mr. Kaplan starts off by making two fundamental points. CEO pay has not gone up in recent years; indeed, it has been dropping since 2000, particularly in relation to other well-paid groups, such as hedge fund managers, lawyers, consultants and professional athletes. Nor is CEO pay unrelated to performance. Boards are increasingly willing to fire CEOs for poor performance.


Ms. Minow focuses heavily on the relationship between pay and the recent credit crunch. She points out that executive pay helped to create the mess in the first place: Countrywide’s CEO, Angelo Mozillo, made more than $550m during his time in office. She also points out that the fact that many companies that were bailed out by the government continue to pay their CEOs huge salaries and bonuses is damaging the credibility of the system.


Such bold opening statements raise questions galore. Is Mr. Kaplan justified in starting his account in 2000 rather than 1980, when executive pay exploded. And is Ms. Minow right to concentrate so heavily on the financial sector? These are only a couple of the questions that we need to thrash out in the coming days.



The proposer’s opening remarks

In the United States, the United Kingdom and elsewhere, CEOs are routinely criticized for being overpaid. Critics argue that boards do not respond to market forces, but, instead, are dominated by or are over-generous to their CEOs. Boards are criticized for not tying CEOs’ pay to performance. These criticisms have been exacerbated by the financial crisis and the desire to find scapegoats.


I argue below that the critics are wrong and that there are many misperceptions of CEO pay. While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by market forces and performance. Contrary to public perception, CEO pay has not gone up in recent years. In fact, the average CEO pay (adjusted for inflation) has dropped since 2000, while the pay of other groups has increased substantially. Similarly, the view that CEOs are not paid for performance is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true and boards increasingly fire them for poor performance. And, most recently, consistent with market forces driving pay, the US and UK governments each hired a new CEO (of AIG and the Royal Bank of Scotland) for pay exceeding that of the median large company CEO.


It is useful to understand how CEO pay is measured. It includes three components: salary, bonus and stock-based pay. It is usually measured in two ways. The first is the sum of salary, bonus, restricted stock and the expected value of stock options. I call this expected pay. Expected pay measures what boards believe they awarded the CEO. This is the best measure of what a CEO is paid each year. Note that the CEO does not actually walk away with this money. The second measure replaces expected stock option values with values actually realized and realized pay measures what CEOs walk away with.


The first graph shows average and median expected CEO pay for S&P 500 CEOs since 1994. It shows that median CEO pay has been stable since 2001; it has not increased. And average pay has declined substantially. In fact, average CEO pay in 2008 is below the average in 1998.


While average CEO pay has declined, the pay of other highly paid groups has increased. The second graph shows S&P 500 CEO pay relative to the income of the top 1% of US taxpayers. Relative to those other groups, CEOs are no better off in 2008 than in 1994. Strikingly, relative CEO pay is a half of what it was in 2001, a huge decline.


Which are those groups that have earned increasingly high compensation? Hedge fund, private equity and venture capital investors have increased their assets and fees substantially, translating into high pay. By one estimate, the top three hedge fund managers earned more in 2007 than all 500 S&P 500 CEOs combined. Professional athletes, investment bankers, consultants and lawyers also have benefited greatly.

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Useful stuff
But today it is becoming radioactive, as governments step in to rescue failing companies and ordinary people are forced to tighten their belts.
Today many American workers earn in a year what theirboss takes home in an evening.有意思的对比
Such bold opening statements raise questions galore.经常可以用到的句子
These are only a couple of the questions that we need to thrash out in the coming days.
While CEO pay practices are not perfect, they are driven by market forces and performance.
Markets are the driving force for senior executives in all these industries and talented people jump across industries, based on market perceptions of their worth.
And the post-melt down awards are all but guaranteed to continue to create perverse incentives that will reward management and further damage the interests of share holders and every other participant in the economy.
It inevitably led to failures like the subprime disaster and the dominoes it toppled as it took the economy down with it.
But the results speak for themselves.

I read a Fobus rank about the most expensive CEO, the best CEO and the worst CEO of China in 2009 some days ago.It gave a list of the CEO pay, and made a judgement based on the relationship between executive pay and performance.

As the CEO pay is high even in the recession, the debate about wheather executive pay is reasonable hot at that moment. Mr. Kaplan as a proposer makes two fundamental points. Firstly, CEO pay has not gone up in recent years, indeed, it has been dropping since 2000, particularly in relation to other well-paid groups. Secondly, CEO pay is related to performance and market forces drive CEO compensation. Then he gives us a measure of CEO pay. It includes salary, bonus and stock-based pay which measures what boards believe they awarded the CEO. So he claims that the CEOs are paid what they are worth.

On contrast, Ms. Minow illustrates excessive executive compensation of the past decade is both a symptom and a cause of the current economic mess. She claims that a market-based response would be: (1) that was his risk and it is inappropriate to the point of misappropriation to force the other shareholders, already substantiallyout of pocket with their own losses due to his poor leadership of the organisation, make up for his losses (2) if the deals are good ones, he will be adequately rewarded when the benefit of those deals is reflected in the stock price; and (3) If this is pay for performance, what exactly is the performance we are paying for? She raises a question that if expected pay measure is rational in fact.

Since executive pay substantially base on expectancy, it should balance against gain and loss. Furthermore, there should be a measure about what exactly the performance is we are pay for.
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In contemporary world, people cannot live without money. So money becomes something people all care about. That’s why they created this topic. In my opinion, the executives may be paid too much but we need to call on government’s attention to solve it rather than criticize it in public frequently.

Executives in bailed out companies should be paid fairly, but such compensation should be deferred until the company pays back the government. At that point the markets can then work on a level playing field again. If the return to profitability was genuine, the talented executives shouldn't need long to generate the cash to pay their foregone pay.
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