噼里啪啦看Issue之第一期之Issue98 by jinziqi

jinziqiUID: 2387034

Issue 98"Colleges and universities should offer more courses on popular music, film, advertising, and television because contemporary culture has much greater relevance for students than do arts and literature of the past."


UNDERSTANDING——
Classification: Education
Key Words:
colleges and universities; courses; contemporary culture;
Topic: past VS contemporary
Relationship: cause and effect. Because contemporary culture has much greater relevance for students, colleges and universities should offer more courses about things popular.

BRAINSTORMING——
1. What does contemporary culture mean? (Definition)
Contemporary culture contains a variety of topics about everything, and it is a kind of trend for us and to pursue.

2. What are the various features of contemporary culture? (Description)
New, fashionable, representative, and hot.

3. What are the component parts of contemporary culture? (Simple Analysis)
Films, dress, music, episode, movie star, singer, novel and so on.

4. How are courses made or done in colleges and universities? (Process Analysis)
They are divided into compulsory and elective. Students should finish some compulsory courses in a term so that they can have the higher one in next term. Elective gives students an opportunity to touch things they are interested in.

5. How should courses be made or done in colleges and universities? (Directional Analysis)
Courses should not only give the past knowledge to students but also add some new feeds happening around the world to tell students what has been already researched and what is not clear and deserved to research deeper.

6. What is the essential function of courses? (Functional Analysis)
Courses are made to educate students with knowledge and give directions to students so that they can choose in which area they are interested.

7. What are the causes of courses are past literature and arts? (Causal Analysis)
It is those past literature and arts that make people learn the history and to make progress.

8. What are the consequences of courses are past literature and arts? (Causal Analysis)
如果人们只学习那些经典，就看不到现在的研究已经发展到了什么程度。

9. What are the types of courses? (Classification)
同3

10. How is course in colleges and universities like or unlike contemporary culture? (Comparison)
课程教给学生的都是流传下来的典范，而当今的文化是创新。

11. What is the present status of contemporary culture? (Comparison)
同2

12. What is the significance of contemporary culture? (Interpretation)
当今文化是生活的趋势

16. What is my personal response to course in colleges and universities? (Reflection)
Helpful, useful, and necessary.

18. What is the value of course in colleges and universities? (Evaluation)
传授知识，树立正确的人生观，抛砖引玉，教给学生研究的方法

19. What are the essential major points or features of course in colleges and universities? (Summary)
同18

REASONING——

1. Contemporary culture has much more relevance to students for the reason that people often discuss them in daily life such as the hot episode, popular music and coming movies.
2.   2. Although contemporary is a part of our lives, it is also necessary to study arts and literature of the past. By taking those courses, it can help students to build the basic value of the world, so that students can choose the right things to concern. In addition, students can learn the history and compare with the nowadays to be creative.
3.   3. Courses in colleges are not only giving a direction to students, but also can bring the classic in the past to the contemporary society. If we have no idea about the arts and literature of the past, we will not truly understand the contemporary culture which often quotes the classic to make the work better.

Examples:
People should know what is Avatar, why Google ends in China, and what is the hottest television recently. If one knows nothing about it, other people will not like to chat with him because there is nothing interesting in his mind.

Nowadays, quantities of new movies are showed on the Internet only in a month. How should we choose our favorites to watch in order to save time? If one is interested in Pride and Prejudice, he may also like Jane Eyre. At the same time, by studying the classic literature, he can distinguish the bad and the good, so that he knows how to behave as a good man in the reality.


欢迎大家来指导~

kulewy531UID: 2603031

题目要点是比较“传统艺术”与“现代艺术”在现代生活的“实用性”，以及是否应该用“course”的方式教授
我的观点是：1“现代艺术”的确比“传统艺术”更加实用。日常生活中，我们的休闲是看电视、看电影不是逛画廊。而且，学校提供这方面的课程是可行的，有助于学生生活质量的提高。
2但是，传统艺术的教育也同样不可少，而且需要将传统艺术与现代艺术结合起来教，因为现代艺术中总不难发现传统的影子，要正确理解现代艺术，需要有传统艺术的背景

豆腐店的86UID: 2512956

我觉得，学校开设对有关传统艺术的课程是因为人们对传统艺术有深入的研究，且不说这些研究是不是后人的主观设想附加上去的，至少这些研究还是相对成熟的。作为学校，教授的就因该是一些可以被拿出来用的公理。而开设现代艺术的课程，首先本身学校的教授们就不一定对现代艺术有足够的研究和了解，讲的可能都是一些自己的主观看法，还不如用传统艺术作载体，教授学生如何欣赏艺术，然后再用现实社会做实验室，让学生们利用这些方法自己去欣赏领悟现实中的现代艺术。

中原527UID: 2707367

同意531
题眼是：contemporary culture VS arts and literature of the past
正面例子很多了，在这里想补充的是一点反例，以供开阔思维而已：
正如jinziqi所说的Contemporary culture 意味着 New, fashionable, representative, and hot.
1事实上在如今的fashion多半都是历史的回归
在当今时尚圈子，事实上就是处于螺旋式上升发展状态，过去的所流行的元素对今天来说绝对是一笔灵感的财富。例如最近大热复古风。
经典的东西永远都不会丧失流行，例如CHANEL的黑白小礼服
2还有，啥叫arts and literature of the past?
难道就只限定为经典传统作品？总觉得这里应该可以做文章，比如服饰传统历史的研究，对当今服装时尚还是有影响的吧。
3关于popular 的东西需不需要有一门课程专门去研究还得有待商榷，毕竟这些东西还得需要时间来沉淀，流行的东西不一定是好的，也有很多水货充斥其中。只能说，我们要从过去入手，总结规律，培养正确的审美意识。（不过何为正确的审美，在美学领域里也有争执。这里就不提了吧….）

plukaUID: 2721764

关于豆腐说的教学可行性感觉有些意思。确实，现代课程是不是能够有效果是很依赖选题和老师的。比如流行音乐，不仅流派纷杂而且还有时效性，随时就过期了，很难安排课程。
同意kulewy，认为前提是比较现代与传统艺术哪个与生活联系更紧密。但是这就是开设课程的唯一理由吗？好像jinziqi提到的，大学不仅要适应当代情况，也有传承经典的责任。
另外，很多现代艺术与传统艺术一脉相承，内里的精神是一样的，表现不同罢了。

豆腐店的86UID: 2512956

1. Contemporary culture has much more relevance to students for the reason that people often discuss them in daily life such as the hot episode, popular music and coming movies.
2.   2. Although contemporary is a part of our lives, it is also necessary to study arts and literature of the past. By taking those courses, it can help students to build the basic value of the world, so that students can choose the right things to concern. In addition, students can learn the history and compare with the nowadays to be creative.
3.   3. Courses in colleges are not only giving a direction to students, but also can bring the classic in the past to the contemporary society. If we have no idea about the arts and literature of the past, we will not truly understand the contemporary culture which often quotes the classic to make the work better.

Examples:
People should know what is Avatar, why Google ends in China, and what is the hottest television recently. If one knows nothing about it, other people will not like to chat with him because there is nothing interesting in his mind.



关于第3点有个疑问： 为什么不充分理解过去的艺术，就不能很好的理解现在的艺术？ 我觉得这里怎么有点想当然~~~ 经典艺术的体系和现代艺术的体系应该是不同的吧（不是学艺术的，有学艺术的请指教~~） 总觉得读上去这句话逻辑有问题~~~ 就有点像如果历史上的学科学术你不懂，你就没办法学懂现行的学科理论吗？显然不是吧，历史发展上有多少弯路··· 要理解现在的理论直接学习就好了么··· （可能是我思维简单了·· 各位拍砖····）

关于例子··· 我想问，这个说的有点太偏激了吧，我想反问一句。LZ知道到底为什么GOOGLE要退出中国么？我觉得这个问题要写出来就已经是好几篇ISSUE的篇幅了吧··· 而且不明白这个问题，也不见得会让你跟别人没有话题可以交流啊···  还有你说的 hottest teletision 是说电视剧么？ ···
整体感觉就是这个例子想表达什么思想我看不太明白··· 是说我们要有与时俱进的现代艺术的知识么？ 那我觉得讲讲平面设计，或者现代的广告文化是不是会更有说服力？

emteddybearUID: 2699606

帮jinziqi解释一下
我觉得她的意思是说，现在像阿凡达，Google退出中国等问题都是很火的问题，在人们的生活中广泛的讨论的问题，像人们这些热点问题的讨论，对他们的广泛的关注程度都应该属于contemporary culture的范畴
好像是这个意思
不知道理解得对不对

不过我也很同意你的关于可行性的问题，想想貌似是那么回事儿，现在的fashion元素更新得太快，怎么可能大学课程不是很好安排。


还有就是我觉得这个问题还是有点不好想，就是这些什么关于艺术的课程都是选修的，貌似大家都是随便选选的吧，其实对于非艺术类学生，学习过这些课程的都很少很少，开了这个课程具体起到多大的作用还有待考证呢，当然啦这个问题肯定是跑题了。我想说的是这个课程的开设到底是针对艺术类还是非艺术类的学生呢？我觉得这个前提不把握好，没法继续下面的思考
困惑ing~~~~~~~~~~~~

6# 豆腐店的86

jinziqiUID: 2387034

7# emteddybear

谢谢帮忙解释！我就是这个意思~ ;-)
我猜可能指的是开设的那种基础课吧，比如思修马哲那样的，所有学生都要学，只是中国不都学艺术课…或者说就相当于中学的美术吧..

jinziqiUID: 2387034

6# 豆腐店的86

谢谢指正！
我是这么想的，至少学校讲授的arts and literature of the past不会是历史中的弯路，都是正确的~没有基础的铺垫，怎么盖高楼大厦。不懂三国，没有看过三国的人，听易中天的讲座能理解吗？我们学了那么多古诗古文，现在显然已经不再用文言文了，但现代文学难免会引用一下过去的名言吧，如果对那些不了解不就看不明白了么。

我说GOOGLE并不是在这讨论它为什么退出中国，这毕竟是一个复杂的问题，我只是说这是当今一个热门的话题，我们都应该多多少少有所了解。Hottest television 我是想说电视剧。。呃表达错了吧，hottest episode? 大概我整个例子都表达得不够清楚。我是想说，如果一个人对当今热门的话题全不了解的话，就很难交流了，试想，一个人不知道春哥曾哥，不知道阿凡达，交流起来会很尴尬，或许这就是所谓的代沟吧。

能具体说下平面设计或者现代的广告文化怎么来举例说明吗？我知识比较匮乏~ o(╯□╰)o
可行性也的确应该考虑一下，毕竟新生的事物都有一个过程才能编入教材。流行的东西拿到课堂上很容易引起争议。还没有一个确定的规则来评判它。

emteddybearUID: 2699606

哦
这样啊
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8# jinziqi