寄托天下
楼主: prettywraith
打印 上一主题 下一主题

[主题活动] [REBORN FROM THE ASHES][comment][01.20] [复制链接]

Rank: 5Rank: 5

声望
66
寄托币
1811
注册时间
2009-9-22
精华
0
帖子
11

GRE梦想之帆

16
发表于 2010-1-22 10:39:20 |只看该作者

famed
[feɪmd]


adj.
着名的, 闻名的


set out
1 动身, 出发
2 着手, 开始
3 安排, 组织

unaltered  


adj.
未被改变的, 依然如此的, 不变的


comedian
[co·me·di·an || kə'miːdjən]


n.
喜剧演员


pester
[pes·ter || 'pestə(r)]


v.
使烦恼, 纠缠


subordinate
[sub·or·di·nate || sə'bɔːdnɪt]


v.
使居下位, 使服从


adj.
下级的, 附属的, 次要的


souped-up
提高效率

furnish
[fur·nish || 'fɜrnɪʃ /'fɜːn-]


v.
供应; 装备; 提供


neuron
['nʊrɑn /'njʊər-]


n.
神经单位; 神经元



in collaboration with
adv.
合作

legerdemain
[leg·er·de·main || ‚ledʒə(r)də'meɪn]


n.
戏法; 诡辩; 骗术


elucidate
[e·lu·ci·date || ɪ'luːsɪdeɪt]


v.
阐明; 说明


exert
[ex·ert || ɪg'zɜːt]


v.
发挥, 施以影响, 运用


deploy
[de·ploy || dɪ'plɔɪ]


v.
使展开; 使疏开; 展开; 部署



[fly]1 In 1979 Francis Crick, famed co-discoverer of DNA’s structure, published an article in Scientific American that set out a wish list of techniques needed to fundamentally improve understanding of the way the brain processes information.
2 The advent of what is known as optogenetics has even captured popular attention because of its ability to alter animal behavior
3 Such feats have inspired much public comment, including a joke made by comedian Jay Leno in 2006 about the prospect for an optogenetically controlled fly pestering George W. Bush.
4 Controlling a subordinate or a spouse with a souped-up laser pointer may be essential for science-fiction dystopia and late-night humor, but in reality optogenetics has emerged as the most important new technology for providing insight into the numbingly complex circuitry of the mammalian brain.什么意思呀?
5 Molecular legerdemain can also manipulate just a subset of one type of neuron or control a circuit between groups of selected neurons in, say, the limbic system and others in the cortex.完全看不懂。

Comment:
Pretty hard is it for me to understand. I know that our author that want to express the new area that already are happening in our medical area. And we can conclude this must be beneficial for our humane world in the future.
Truth confirms our assumption. We acknowledged that new technology for providing insight into the numbingly complex circuitry of the mammalian brain. Moreover, the most virtue of the technology is that instead of disturbing all the neurons, it mainly focused on the ill ones, that means bring less byproduct.
And as we probe into this area more and more, we can expect that one day we can know more about the mold our brains works as a calculated machine. Without any dubious claim, this high science will get us more chance to deal with psychiatry diseases.
What intrigues me most is that what does the last words mean, you know , the author said, is that an indication or admonition for us?
[/fly]

使用道具 举报

Rank: 6Rank: 6

声望
216
寄托币
2130
注册时间
2009-11-4
精华
0
帖子
16
17
发表于 2010-1-22 18:40:22 |只看该作者
NOTE
High on his wish list was a method of gaining control over specific classes of neurons(倒装)

Over the past few years Crick’s vision for targeting neurons has begun to materialize thanks to a sophisticated combination of fiber optics and genetic engineering.

Such feats have inspired much public comment

dystopia(敌托邦,糟糕透顶的社会)

It has already furnished clues(提供线索) as to how neural miswiring underlies...
Although optogenetic control of human behavior may be years away, Deisseroth comments that the longer-range implications of the technology must be considered: “I’m not writing ethics papers, but I think about these issues every day, what it might mean to gain understanding and control over what is a desire, what is a need, what is hope.”


COMMENT
Apart from the technological things, what interested me is the science-fiction styled dystopia and Deiseroth's comment on the uncertain furture when some people gain the understanding and control over other's mind. This needs more rethinking than cloning, I think. For if a person clones a man, we can easily condemn him, yet if he operates some surgery using the neuro-technology mentioned above, perhaps it's hard to distinguish whether he's curing the patient's mental disease or implanting some control by stealth.
The ethics is always busy with handling scientific breakthroughs recently, especially with biology. It might be a tradition during the science history to have some distance between the morality and the cutting-edged discoveries, yet I'm just a little bit worry that the distance now may be stretching too far.
横行不霸道~

使用道具 举报

Rank: 4

声望
35
寄托币
950
注册时间
2009-11-3
精华
0
帖子
3
18
发表于 2010-1-22 21:37:35 |只看该作者

Over the past few years Crick’svision for targeting neurons has begun to materialize thanks to asophisticated combination of fiber optics and genetic engineering.The advent of what is known as optogenetics has even captured popularattention.


Controlling a subordinate or aspouse with a souped-up(马力增强了的) laser pointer may be essential forscience-fiction dystopia and late-night humor(没看明白。。)

A seminal event that sparkedwidespread neuroscience interest came in 2005


milliseconds(毫秒)


COMMENT:
Diseases related to brain was always a hard issue, and today, light and genes break the ice. To gain the control of targetting neuron, fiber optics and genetic engineering will enable its possibility.

Year 2005, when professor Karl, along with his colleagues, raised an idea of virus, which could be used like a courier, sending the light-sensitive genes into specific sets of neuron, wittness the aroused interest of neuroscience. Problem comes, so does breakthrough. And finally, technology is no longer limited to certain area of biology, but extended to application of any cell instead.

使用道具 举报

Rank: 5Rank: 5

声望
10
寄托币
760
注册时间
2009-3-3
精华
0
帖子
3
19
发表于 2010-1-22 22:52:03 |只看该作者
本帖最后由 qxn_1987 于 2010-1-22 22:54 编辑

Comments:

The discovery of DNA indicates a splendid advancement in human history, in 1979. And yet, as the proverb goes, “Every coin has two sides.” There are both blessings and curses.

On the one hand, we can use it to cue some disease which is so difficult to cure by normal and traditional means, including Parkinson’s disease and schizophrenia, to alleviate the suffering of such patients; in the meantime we can use which to eugenics, which is so benefical for our enduring generations, then to make our country to be more powerful and strong in the long run.

On the other hand, it may be used by some people for a immoral or illegal purpose, though it has numerous of benefits. We needn’t to go too far to the terrible results if somebody use genetics or optogenetics to manufacture weapons or to subjugate the world.

And as to the technology or experiments relating to the gene, people always have different opinions, such as clone. I am not a backer of the technology of clone, which will bring more disadvantages, from my personal point of view, rather than benefits, as well as conflict with or challenge our religions or traditions.

======
拼写:
illegal
clone
religion
challenge

使用道具 举报

Rank: 4

声望
9
寄托币
916
注册时间
2007-9-8
精华
0
帖子
17
20
发表于 2010-1-22 23:59:03 |只看该作者
本帖最后由 jilinlin 于 2010-1-23 00:15 编辑

Good sentence: Controlling a subordinate or a spouse with a souped-up laser pointer may be essential for science-fiction dystopia and late-night humor, but in reality optogenetics has emerged as the most important new technology for providing insight into the numbingly complex circuitry of the mammalian brain.
错词:neturalà neural
mysterical
à mysterious

Comments: 01.20
The workings of brain had always been mysterious to human beings. But current researches will gradually disclose the mechanism of brain by means of genes equipped in the brain.
    Optogenetics, emerged as a new technology having the ability to alter animal behavior recently. This technology is able to provide insight into the complex circuitry of the mammalian brain and some clues about the cause for Parkinson’s disease and schizophrenia in neural level.
    In the experiment, a virus could be used to deliver a light-sensitive gene into specific sets of mammalian neurons which fired when exposed to light pulses. That means it would be possible to trigger or extinguish selected neurons precisely. And certain fundamental causes of a behavior can be elucidated through optogenetics. A study that helped to explain the workings of deep-brain stimulation was also published last spring.
    Like scientist Deisseroth, we will wonder whether a fortune or a disaster it is when we can master the approach of manipulating mammals’ brains and behaviors. It would be terrible things when imagining that the brain being controled by others.

使用道具 举报

Rank: 6Rank: 6

声望
26
寄托币
1861
注册时间
2009-7-24
精华
0
帖子
77
21
发表于 2010-1-27 21:45:28 |只看该作者
本帖最后由 domudomu 于 2010-1-27 22:30 编辑

In 1979 Francis Crick, famed co-discoverer of DNA’s structure, published an article in Scientific American that set out a wish list of techniques needed to fundamentally improve understanding of the way the brain processes information. High on his wish list was a method of gaining control over specific classes of neurons while, he wrote, “leaving the others more or less unaltered.”

(克里克是发现DNA模型人之一,发的文章增加了人们了解大脑是如何传递信息的,通过神经元)


Over the past few years Crick’s vision for targeting neurons has begun to materialize(成为现实化) thanks to a sophisticated combination of fiber optics and genetic engineering. The advent(出现降临) of what is known as opto genetics has even captured popular attention because of its ability to alter animal behavior—one research group demonstrated how light piped(传递传输) into a mouse’s brain can drive it to turn endlessly in circles. Such feats(功绩) have inspired much public comment, including a joke made by comedian Jay Leno in 2006 about the prospect for an opto genetically controlled fly pestering(使烦恼,纠缠) George W. Bush.

(基因工程和纤维光的结合形成光基因,从而改变动物行为)


Controlling a subordinate or a spouse with a souped-up(提高效率) laser pointer may be essential for science-fiction dystopia(糟糕的,非理想化的处境) and late-night humor, but in reality optogenetics has emerged as the most important new technology for providing insight into the numbingly(麻木失去知觉的) complex circuitry of the mammalian brain. It has already furnished clues as to how neural miswiring(错接) underlies neurological and mental disorders, including Parkinson’s disease and schizophrenia(精神分裂症).

光学基因先其实已经是非常重要的技术,对于哺乳动物大脑神经,和里面是怎么混乱的)


A seminal(对以后有重大影响的) event that sparked widespread neuroscience interest came in 2005, when Karl Deisseroth and his colleagues at Stanford University and at the Max Planck Institute for Biophysics in Frankfurt demonstrated how a virus could be used to deliver a light-sensitive gene called channelrhodopsin-2 into specific sets of mammalian neurons. Once equipped with the gene (taken from pond algae(海藻)), the neurons fired when exposed to light pulses. A box on Crick’s list could be checked off: this experiment and ones that were soon to follow showed how it would be possible to trigger(引起) or extinguish selected neurons, and not their neighbors, in just a few milliseconds, the speed at which they normally fire. Hundreds of laboratories(真空吸引分娩) worldwide have since adopted Deisseroth’s technique.

(用病毒来传送感光基因到指定的神经,并确认作用到特定神经)


A 38-year-old psychiatrist by training who still sees patients once a week, Deisseroth entered the field of bioengineering because of his frustration over the inadequate tools available to research and treat mental illness and neurodegenerative(神经组织退化) disorders. “I have conducted many brain-stimulation treatments in psychiatry that suffered greatly from a lack of precision. You can stimulate certain cells that you want to target, but you also stimulate all of the wrong cells as well,” he says. Instead of just observing the effects from a drug or an implanted electrode(电极), optogenetics brings researchers closer to the fundamental causes of a behavior.

(神经科学家,由于他在自己医学领域总是会在选择到正确基因的同时选择到错误基因,从事光电基因专业)


Since 2005 Deisseroth’s laboratory—at times in collaboration with leading neuroscience groups—has assembled a powerful tool kit based on channelrhodopsin-2 and other so-called opsins(视蛋白). By adjusting the opening or closing of channels in cell membranes, opsins can switch neurons on or turn them off. Molecular legerdemain(手法,戏法) can also manipulate(熟练操作) just a subset of one type of neuron or control a circuit between groups of selected neurons in, say, the limbic(边缘) system and others in the cortex(皮层). Deisseroth has also refined methods for delivering the opsin genes, typically by inserting into a virus both opsin genes and DNA to turn on those genes.

(通过视蛋白来调控基因)


To activate the opsins, Deisseroth’s lab has attached laser diodes(二极管) to tiny fiber-optic cables that reach the brain’s innermost structures. Along with the optical fibers, electrodes are implanted that record when neurons fire. “In the past year what’s happened is that these techniques have gone from being something interesting and useful in limited applications to something generalizable to any cell or question in biology,” Deisseroth says.

(为了激活视蛋白,给深处视觉神经以刺激)



Most compelling, however, are experiments that have demonstrated te relevance of optogenetics to both basic science and medicine. At the Society for Neuroscience meeting in Chicago last October, Michael Häusser of University College London reported on an optogenetics experiment that showed how 100 neurons could trigger a memory stored in a much larger ensemble of about 100,000 neurons, suggesting how the technique may be used to understand memory formation.

(做一些与电光基因相关的实验,100个神经元可以引起一个尝过十万的储存)


Last spring Deisseroth’s group published an optogenetics study that helped to elucidate(说明,阐明) the workings of deep-brain stimulation, which uses electrodes implanted deep in the brain to alleviate the abnormal movements of Parkinson’s disease. The experiment called into question the leading theory of how the technology works—activation of an area called the subthalamic(丘脑下的) nucleus. Instead the electrodes appear to exert their effects on nerve fibers that reach the subthalamic nucleus from the motor cortex and perhaps other areas. The finding has already led to a better understanding of how to deploy(有效利用) deep-brain electrodes. Given its fine-tuned(微调) specificity, optoelectronics might eventually replace deep-brain stimulation.

(用电极移植到脑来减轻帕金森综合症的不正常行为,光电基因,最后可能会代替深脑刺激)



Although optogenetic control of human behavior may be years away, Deisseroth comments that the longer-range(长程) implications of the technology must be considered: “I’m not writing ethics papers, but I think about these issues every day, what it might mean to gain understanding and control over what is a desire, what is a need, what is hope.”

comments

Cool, this is the second biology-related issue read by me carefully this night. I can actully understand most of the meanings and works. And what really touched me is the last paragraph. However, I can feel how hard the scientific work is and how great every scientist is. "What it might mean to gain understanding and control over what is a desire, what is a need, what is hope."

Many people will get Parkinson's disease when they get old. Luckliy the researchers are now trying hard to solve this big issue. And it seems that the Parkinson's disease is getting easier to be controled than cancer. And, I fully believe these scientists, their contribution is beyond anything. I also hope that one day, people will never be bothered with various diseases and to live a happy life.

To my grandpa: May you a good health and long life! I will stand by you forever.

使用道具 举报

Rank: 6Rank: 6

声望
26
寄托币
1861
注册时间
2009-7-24
精华
0
帖子
77
22
发表于 2010-1-27 22:19:03 |只看该作者
我觉得你没看明白的那句,就是说采取这种高效率镭射的方法,看起来就像是一个前沿科幻小说,或者黑色幽默(反正就是不可能的感觉) 18# 番茄斗斗

使用道具 举报

Rank: 9Rank: 9Rank: 9

声望
676
寄托币
5221
注册时间
2009-7-29
精华
0
帖子
181

Pisces双鱼座 荣誉版主

23
发表于 2010-1-28 22:57:43 |只看该作者
Useful Expressions
Words and Phrases

Optogenetics emerges as a potent tool to study the brain's inner workings
Potent=strong=powerful
By adjusting the opening or closing of channels in cell membranes, opsins can switch neurons on or turn them off.
Switch on<->turn off
Instead the electrodes appear to exert their effects on nerve fibers that reach the subthalamic nucleus from the motor cortex and perhaps other areas.
Exert effects on=affect=influence


Functional Sentences

Issue-To illustrate an Event of a discipline/movement
A seminal event that sparked widespread neuroscience interest came in 2005, when Karl Deisseroth and his colleagues at Stanford University and at the Max Planck Institute for Biophysics in Frankfurt demonstrated how a virus could be used to deliver a light-sensitive gene called channelrhodopsin-2 into specific sets of mammalian neurons.
A seminal event [that sparked widespread (discipline/movement) interest] came in (date), when (details about the seminal event).
Seminal=original and important
A is seminal to B=A carries considerable weight with B
------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Comment
The article mainly talks about optogenetics which serves as a method of controlling only specific classes of neurons and leaving the others unaltered.
As the components of its name shows, it is a convergence of optics and genetic engineering which is able to alter animal behavior by throwing a light into an animal's brain.


Certainly, scientists believe that "know how" would brings "know why"; in other words, if we could find ways to control mammalian brain, we may understand brain processes such as memory formation.

In this article, the author emphasizes a seminal event sparking widespread interest in neuroscience. Karl Deisseroth, once a psychiatrist who later devotes himself to bioengineering, succeeded in assembling a powerful tool kit which is able to switch on or turn off neurons. The technique is creative and proved effective so it carries considerable weight with biotechnology.

When I read half of this article, suddenly I fell into the imagination about the possibility of figuring out the fundamental causes of human's behavior and thus getting accesses to control what human do. It seems like a tragedy more than a comedy. If that happens, people may be lost and do not know whether the seemly seamy and stunning world is worth fighting.

The author tells us that Doctor Deisseroth emphasized his papers are not ethics ones, but the ethic issue become daily in his life. Maybe it is too ironic for a science adherent or fanatic to accept that desire, need, and hope probably are nothing but changeable optics information.
In Passion We Trust

使用道具 举报

Rank: 9Rank: 9Rank: 9

声望
676
寄托币
5221
注册时间
2009-7-29
精华
0
帖子
181

Pisces双鱼座 荣誉版主

24
发表于 2010-1-28 23:11:53 |只看该作者
QUESTION:

“I’m not writing ethics papers, but I think about these issues every day, what it might mean to gain understanding and control over what is a desire, what is a need, what is hope.”

他说他不是在写什么ethics paper,为什么他要这样说啊,我感觉这可能是一种开玩笑的话,或者是一种比喻之类的,但是我理解不到他的笑点在哪儿
emteddybear 发表于 2010-1-20 20:39


Although optogenetic control of human behavior may be years away, Deisseroth comments that the longer-range implications of the technology must be considered

这个应该就是笑点,既然光学基因技术能够改变小白鼠的行为,那么理因在这技术成熟时也能控制人类的行为,仅管仍然很遥不可及,不过这个伦理问题必须得考虑。。。

D教授的话就是他的论文还是只会继续关注技术本身,他写的不是伦理文章。不过呢,他每天都在思考这个伦理问题,即得到这么一种理解和控制人类欲望、需要和希望的能力代表着什么,而这些欲望、需要和希望本身又到底有什么意义。

不知道有没理解错~呵呵·

In Passion We Trust

使用道具 举报

RE: [REBORN FROM THE ASHES][comment][01.20] [修改]

问答
Offer
投票
面经
最新
精华
转发
转发该帖子
[REBORN FROM THE ASHES][comment][01.20]
https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1052619-1-1.html
复制链接
发送
回顶部