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花了一上午仔细研读了版主大人chris song 的签证精华帖（https://bbs.gter.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=464150&extra=&page=3），受益匪浅！
对回答问题的思路和原则更多了一些了解。原来的帖子很长，其中24楼的徐小平的美国签证哲学，虽然有些旧，但是很多申诉信我认为很精彩！反复突出了回答问题的要点。虽然咱们第一次面签不是申诉，也应该像申诉一样有力地说服VO给咱approval。我自己是已婚在职人士，所以对这方面的问题多花了点时间钻研。下面分享下我的读书笔记。书中关于移民倾向的阐述太好，我也摘抄了些。大家都适用~

6月1日北京F1，祝我好运吧~~ ^^

******* 解释为什么现在的工作很好还要出国：
most students graduated from university have good jobs in China. Most students who go to America to pursue graduate study are engineers or teachers. Although I'm an assistant engineer in China ,I think a person should struggle in all his life, not just satisfy with the present status. The goal of a person is to pursue a higher position, to pursue more knowledge. The reason I go to study is just because America is
in the lead in technology. I want to absorb the latest and advanced knowledge. Turning down my application because I have a Good job in China will block Chinese students to realize their academic goals. It's also not in accordance with American values.

China needs highly trained professionals in this field. And as you know, China's development is very fast in recent years, this supplies an expanding job market. After I complete my study in America ,I can definitely find a good job in China and contribute what I have learned to my motherland. I will not work as a little employee for an American boss.

要说明去美国只是一个高回报的投资，抓住机会表明自己的回国动机和决心！
going to America to pursue a Master’s degree is only a most glorious way to spend my money to buy in a more lucrative future back to China where I had made my first bucket of gold.
Going to the US for an advanced study is an important step for me to further promote myself professionally back in China, not a step to abandon my great job and family in China.
I would not throw away everything that I have obtained and am proud of to plunge myself into chaotic future by illegally staying in the United States after my Master's program. The United States is always the greatest country that I admire, however, when it comes to career development and personal fortune, my hope is in China. With this American Master's degree in hand, my future in China will be much more greater !

如果在外企工作，则要说明自己的收获和去美国学习的动机。
Having worked for an American company, Mellon Central Air Conditioning Co. of its China venture for more than two years as the first marketing assistant to the Director of Marketing Department, I have not only achieved great experience in American style marketing and sales, but also accumulated enough money to be invested into a valued American MBA. Money is not a problem for me but an MBA is critical to my better life in China a few years later. It is this company from the United States who has given me strong experience of business and sufficient financial rewards, an MBA from an American school is a logical decoration to my already fulfilling career. I would be very much appreciate it if you grant me a visa to realize this dream of mine, a dream I can financially afford, professionally deserve.
China is really a massive market! But the experienced people are in bad shortage. It has a even worse shortage for those who not only knows about the technology but also understands American way of doing business.
Without American experience, my father has been sought after by those US companies. When I receive my American MBA, I guess there must be a bidding war for me between those who are planning to enter Chinese market! This is a brilliant future in that I will be guaranteed a six figure salary and for that I have started longing even without leaving China yet!)

******* 如果签证官以现在的工资太低判定有移民倾向，则要讲清楚自己其实是有潜力的，而且为了提高以后的发展（即，工资）我才要出国的。
As a computer specialist in Beijing, I was offered a job several times by such big US companies as IBM and Microsoft. I can easily get a position in any major international computer corporation and make a very good salary (it’s very common for many of my college pals to make more than 8,000 RMB a month).
The reason that I did not take any job outside of ABC University’s Computer Center for higher pay is just because of two things.
I had a contract with ABC University that effected for five years. I did not want to breach this contract. I want to start my career in China’s computer industry at a higher level by obtaining an advanced degree from the United States, the world’s leading force in computer production and research. Please think that if a computer professional can make that much money now working for an international computer company in Beijing, how much money I could possibly earn after returning from America with a shining Master’s degree! And please think that how much privilege I would have at that time in my own country in addition to the money I could make?
Every major computer company in YOUR country, the United States of America, is coming to China by large scale. Their operation is expanding, their investment is going up and their market share is growing in my country. I would be stupid not coming back to cut a piece of China’s computer cake after I receive a much cherished Master’s degree from America. For money, for career, and for social status, I will be choosing nowhere but my homeland, China.

***** 如果家里经济不是很富裕，VO要咱解释为什么花这么多钱还要去读书，则一定要强调这是一个多么值得的投资！不仅必定能收回成本（以后的高薪工作），而且会利润满满（高薪是高起点，好的发展趋势则可保证一直如此）。
The program will guarantee my greatest possible potential in my field of business. No investment is better than the investment into one's education, particularly when it comes to University of Pennsylvania and when it comes to such a distinguished program! The money for the school is BIG, but the value of the program is BIGGER!

（可惜我申请的学校不是很好，这一条得斟酌着改改。。。==）

My experience in my field and the prestigious from the U. of Penn background will guarantee my goal. I could afford the $38,000 dollars even though it is a big pressure to me and to my family. However, if $38,000 can guarantee you a great future, a future with million dollars, would you go ahead to invest on it ? YOU WOULD. I WOULD.
Having worked as the division manager (supervising 30 people) in China National & International Transportation Corporation (CNTRANS), China's largest transportation company, I feel that an American degree will be a golden finger to my rich experience. And I WILL be successful to develop my own business back in China with a Degree from U of Penn. That is the only reason why I would spend so much money for this program. $38,000 is a big money to me and to my family, however, compare with the money future after the degree this investment is only a small down payment! Rich or poor, I do can afford it and I do want to invest it! Why I bother to make so much effort for the whole thing? As a division manager at CNTRANS, I am making a very good living here and enjoying my own apartment, car privilege and many other corporate benefits. I have a beautiful family and my husband works in the same company and his status in the company is even higher than mine. Our life in China is very good it will be better particularly when I finish my U. of Penn's unique program and return to China. Combining what I will have learned from the U of Penn's program with my business contacts and experiences I have accumulated at SINOTRANS, my career will take a great leap forward in the transportation industry that I have committed six years of my youth. The program that will cost me $38,000 at the University of Pennsylvania will give me a competitive advantage that nobody else in China can possibly match.

******* 结婚的问题：
对于这个问题，申请者的心态应该是：根据美国签证哲学，真实、自信、具体、合理地回答签证官的问题。读者要记住：签证官所有关于婚姻的问题，都是想找出你潜在的移民倾向，所以你的回答，一定要从这个角度出发，把签证官对你的怀疑给打回去。
如果你已经结婚，在提到婚姻问题时，一定要有真实的丰富的感情，为你的家庭感到自豪和幸福。假如你只是干巴巴地说：“是的，我结过婚了”，这是不对的。正确的回答应该是类似这样：“Yes，I AM happily married with (or without) one child； My wife is very beautiful!”(是的，我是幸福的婚姻中人，有一个孩子。我妻子非常漂亮!)。这种回答，具体而有个性,富有感情。你在签证官面前，成为了一个值得尊敬的有责任感的家庭男人(Family Man)，而不是一个符号，一个紧张疲惫的“Visa Applicant”，签证申请者。
假如你的妻子并不漂亮，你怎么说?这个问题是不存在的。因为情人眼里出西施，认为自己的妻子漂亮的男人是最激动人心和最值得敬佩的男人。如果你不认为她漂亮却又娶她为你一生的伴侣，你是什么东西？所以，对于婚姻的回答，一律应该是面露幸福之光的回答。
女性对这个问题的回答也一样，而且更加容易脱口而出：提到丈夫一定要带着崇拜的心情说他非常成功，非常聪明，非常潇洒。千万不要把心里话说出来：“他是个狗屁无庸的东西。今天给我签证，明天就离婚!”。
My husband is a college sweet heart of mine and a successful xxx himself.

一言蔽之，签证官对于“婚姻”问题的目的，是火力侦察你的移民倾向。你必须意识到签证官的这个目的而回答他。不能仅仅简单回答Yes or No。你的婚姻可能是各种形态，但你谋求发展的本质却永远不移：你是一个成功的、优秀的、学成之后一定会回国发展的高素质的中国青年知识分子，看得起美国，才去学习一把。怀疑你这样的人有移民倾向，简直是开玩笑。

*******移民倾向！！！！！！！

什么导致人们的“移民倾向”?答案只有一个：寻求更好的生活。如果人们生活足够好，当然就不会移民。所以，反驳“移民倾向”最好的、几乎是唯一的论据，只能是你在国内美好的生活。这个美好生活必须具体化，它主要包括：你的事业、生意、工作、收入、财产、家庭，以及与之相关的社会地位，荣誉，生活质量等等。说来说去只要说明白一件事：即，我们这样的成功人士（或即将成功人士）不会滞留贵国不归。给我签证吧。

在确立了“绝对没有移民倾向”这个原则之后，你必须用具体的事实来证明这个论点。官会说：百分之八九十的人都没有回来。你应该说：很简单，我属于那个百分之一二十，因为xxxxxx。这里的“因为”后面的话，是你获得签证的关键。因为什么你一定要回来呢?因为什么你必然属于那个“百分之二十”呢?你必须用具体的合理可信的事实来证明这一点。如果你的理由是“中国改革开放前途无限”是不够的。因为百分之百的中国留学生都拥有这样的理由，但并不是百分之百的人都回来。你必须把你的回答具体化、个性化、细节化，创造一个“典型环境中的典型性格”。简单说，把你学成归来之后，你将拥有的专业前景和“钱途”与中国的机会结合起来，建立起你必然回国发展个人事业的重大利益原因，你就能够驱除笼罩签证官心头对你移民倾向的疑云。
柳眉反驳“移民倾向”的理由是：作为一个小学校的MBA，在美国有什么“钱途”?而自己在中国又是这么成功，且中国对于MBA的需求又是这么热门，已经非常成功的我加上一个更热门的美国MBA，学成回来还不如虎添翼，国民收入猛增么?柳眉说：“大家都知道美国MBA：工作前景不妙，尤其是这样的无名学校，难道我会花这么多钱到美国学习就为了找一个洗碗的前途吗?!”柳眉的反问大义凛然，使得美国签证官像索马里签证官一样，带着内疚的心情，满面通红给了她签证。

根据统计数字，用各种方式进入美国之后再想方设法申请移民的人是为数不少的。但是因为其他人的错误而无端怀疑柳眉也有这种情结的美国签证官，显然也是错误的，因为其他人有是其他人的问题，柳眉我肯定没有这个兴趣!签证官怎么能以不存在的思想定罪呢?作为层次高的留学申请人的你，必须用建立在自信基础上的具体的事实让签证官知道，怀疑其他人也许是对的，但是怀疑你面前的申请者柳眉我，你就绝对没有道理。
从柳眉成功的经验，我们可以引申出美国签证哲学的另一个重大原则：“具体性原则”：你在向签证官阐明你的学习目的，赴美计划，选择学校和专业的原因，和“绝对没有移民倾向”而必然回国的理由时，一定要非常具体，非常细节地说明你的个人之所以一定回国的特定情况。让签证官能够在十几秒钟之内感觉到你的那个实实在在的去美国学习并学成之后一定回国的前因后果，前后考虑。细节非常重要，“具体性”一定要具体到你的专业，课题，研究细节，国内的市场机会，或人才价值。这样让签证官看到面前的你，不仅是一个“签证申请者”，而是一个特定的具体可感的有追求有前途的青年知识分子。

美国签证法要求移民官把每一个短期签证申请者当作潜在的移民对像看待。换言之，法要求签证官怀疑每个人都有移民倾向，并要求每个人自己来证明自己没有移民倾向。如何推翻签证官的怀疑?如何证明自己没有这个欲望?请运用美国签证哲学的“具体性原则”，用你个人特定的具体情况，说服签证官。让他确信，许多人都会留在那里，但今天终于碰到一个你，毕业第二天，就会买机票回国。

大部分中国学生到了美国放弃原先的承诺按时回来，那么作为“中国学生”之一的你当然就属于这个高危险的人群，需要特别审查。怀疑和审查不要紧，要紧的是你自己必须拥有强大的“自信”，你将回来。别人不回来，恰恰是你一定回来的原因：因为这样你作为高级人才的价值和身份在国内更加紧俏，更容易成功，不回来干嘛?你有无数的武器，击败签证官的这个拒签。
如果国内的发展已经很好，还可以这么说：正因为现在的工作好，前景好，才要回来。

一个因为移民倾向被拒的JJ的申诉信节选：
We have money, fame, job satisfaction, a very good life in Beijing, and best of all, a great expectation in China where we have had proven success during the last few years of Chinese economic boom. The United States in a land that we admire and are fascinated in, however, never ever in our minds had flashed a thought that we will abandon our great future in China where a new wave of golden opportunity is waiting for us to surf. I have to admit, though, in my dream I do want to have an American multiple entrance visa so I can easily travel to your country for business or for pleasure in the future and so to avoid the humiliation of being rejected again.