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发表于 2010-7-29 13:50:08 |只看该作者
本帖最后由 finalle 于 2010-7-30 16:47 编辑

改楼上   字数才417我算了 有点少 希望加强

As we known, artist is the one who creates the mental treasures while critics just judged前后时态和单复数问题要注意 the work in their own opinion. I think the value of comment is not a patch on the value of art.开头是不是有点太短了?
First of all, the contemporary critic always with their attitude and the influence of society background in their comment. 前后不太衔接 The importance of artist is obvious in the progress of society. The common sense talks that many artist was known after they was改成were dead. So sometimes the contemporary critic is not right. Set Franz Schubert as a example, Schubert is a very great musician and he was前后时态 called the king of songs. But when he had written a score even none of press would like to publish the wonderful song. Our musician was dead in换at 31 with impoverished and frustrated.
In addition, the critic attach to the artist. Only the plausible works could achieve the great critics. In china, a teacher named Yu Dan who is a simple teacher before her comment about the analects of Confucius. She is very famous in china and her comment brings a fashion about the analects of Confucius和前面重复用语. If without不太相搭配 可以另换句型 the literary canon, maybe she is just a teacher in the university. To be sure, the artist is more important than critic.
Every coin has two sides这句话XDF老师说不适用于写作 外国人看的也烦了吧, the critic also have their irreplaceable meaning. The critics have the ability of explain the meaning about the work of art. They direct the audience to choice the work. Oprah Winfrey is a good example可以考虑别的用法 比如 such as 或者别的因为前面已经使用了example, she is a famous book critic她的节目好像什么都会评论 你可以说清楚从书的方面. Every time she recommends a book in the talk show, the book will be a great sales 表达有误 book in the month. There are改is another example about the movies, The Internet Movie Database(IMDB) is a well-known website and almost all of the movie加s from the world will be critique这是名词 in there. The fans of movie will grade可以不用with? with the movie which they have watched. The score of the movie from IMDB is a objective score, we can know the quality from the score. Another function of critic is to help the artist make the progress. Critic is able to give a professional and profound comment, it will可去掉 helps the artist to accomplish the better work.
In a nutshell, every works去掉S of art needs to be evaluated and every critic has their own opinion. It is said that" A thousand people eyes with 1,000 hamlet."The most objective critic is history. So the artist is more important than critic.

论证有点不太说服力 希望论句也加强 多自改

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本帖最后由 PsMaggie 于 2010-7-29 22:19 编辑

这篇啊。。我看到了中文的一些观点,觉得还不错,拿来用了,当然另外翻的英文
所以,如果改我的同学看着觉得眼熟,如有雷同,不用怀疑,就是抄的
TOPIC: ISSUE144 - "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."

*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
WORDS: 493
TIME: 00:36:14
DATE: 2010/7/22 22:34:36


It seems that the speaker is on the correct philosophical side of this issue that it is artist not the critic who gives society something of lasting value. I agree with the author insofar as that the greatest artists create splendid works which contribute much to a society. An artist comes up with an artwork through his feeling and thinking of the whole life and the whole society. They create a valuable work of social by superb technique and the special idea. It is these works that bring us abundant social values which let people enjoy the beauty and cleanse the soul in a blundering society.

However, after carefully examining the statement which seems to be somewhat appealing at the first glance, I would like to say that I have enough reasons to present an opposite claim against the author. On the surface artist is the only exclusive to give something of lasting value. But critic finds the value. Critics have an acuminous discernment and can filter what is real deep-dyed thus reduces people's time and energy. With critics' criticism, people can comprehend the value of artwork better. After All, art is extraordinary abstract that is difficult and impractical for normal person to understand totally. Critics have a wealth of knowledge and great thinking so they are easier than ordinary to discover the essence of art at least more easy to tell people what do those artworks truly express. For instance, Don Quixote was recognized to be a funny fiction at first.

Secondly, critics offer a valuable feedback about the artworks thus makes artist keep advances and create better works. A constructive criticism could help artists promote their wording level and tell people how to be a good connoisseur. Artworks are not like the government policy or other things which can feedback from the benefits of the society. So it lacks of a standard measure of self-scale while the criticism of critics happens to make up this deficiency. Artist can improve him or herself through the praise or criticize arguments, and further to create artwork which can be better reflected in social value.

Of cause we have to admit that sometimes critics just play a negative role of function such as prevent art's progressing while the art may need innovation changes or be taken advantages by the government. For example, Mark Twain attacked the political corruption on his novels so the potentate used critics to refute his work; Voltaire objected Shakespeare's works because he didn't conform neo-classical principles.

To sum up, all of the greatest feats in history, which gave society something of lasting value, are those created by artists and evaluated by critics. Appropriate critical evaluation might entice the people's attention towards those works. It is unwise to say that only artist gives society something of lasting value. Critics do plays a significant part in this process. Without critics artworks may not progress fast----and I would be hard-pressed to imagine a worthier end.

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本帖最后由 PsMaggie 于 2010-7-30 14:35 编辑

改finale

The speaker asserts that artist has more contribution to give society something of lasting value than the critic.这句马上就不对题了,作者没有说artist has more contribution,作者完全没去比较谁贡献得多,他说的是,是艺术家而不是评论家给社会带来一些具有持久价值的东西。 While, I fundamentally disagree with this assertion for it in some sense neglect(加s the value of the critics towards the artistic works (应该是the value the critics bring from the artistic works),while overstate the role of the artists in the creation of a long lasting works. Close scrutiny shows that one priceless works needs the association of the artist and critics.

No one can deny the crucial role of the artists in the creation of the artistic works. For one thing, as it so often pointed out, most of the world famous artist works had been achieved through a long time efforts and all-consuming works of the artistic. This circumstance has especially apparent in the medieval when numerous artistic works have been engaged without any consideration of the contemporary people and seldom can bring the least wealthy to the creators. While, it is the hard efforts of the artist that eventually make the people and critics possible to appreciate and evaluate these works no matter how the contemporary person look at these works.
我感觉如果开头加个AdmittedlyIndeed会更有条理感一点,如果直接上来就开说,别人不一定一眼就看出来你的态度。

Ostensibly, it is the artists that ultimately created and introduced these works and also make it possible to have a “long lasting” effect in the human evolutions. While, without the pursuit of the critics these works also hardly recognized by the common persons let along to have an impressive most of the people's mind.


Firstly, the comments of the critics provide the people with the opportunity to focus the attention on the further meaning of the artistic works. For most of the earnest artists the further meaning for one artistic works is much more important the superficial appearance of it. That is why most of the famous works in the renaissance are impossible for common persons to understand without the explanations and notions of the commenter, for most the common persons place their first glance of the works on the appearance of it while, neglecting the further reflection of the background and other concerning information of these artistic works. For instance, the paint sunflower which was the one of the most famous impressionist works of the Van Gogh, has
(应该是过去完成时)been impressive by the unique use of the color and painting style which may hardly to comprehend by one individual who have learn nothing about the concerning information about the contemporary position of the authors. Under this circumstance, the work of the critics shows its value. Through the explanations and other form of acknowledging the ideas and other knowledge pertaining to the various aspects of this work, more and more people began to realize the true meaning behind the appearance of this works.

Furthermore, the critics make by criticizes
(改成the criticisms made by critics can also contributes the development of the study in the realm of arts
(contribute
是不及物动词,做及物动词的时候只表示捐献,你这里是要表示捐献的意思吗?)and ultimately help the autistics to create a better works in the future achievement. Not only the common persons can learn how to appreciate the profound works of the arts but also the artists themselves also get the real reflect of their works. This is especially important for the young artists who have little accumulation on the creation of the artistic works. Most of the critics have a fully understand the evolutions and real experience on the composers and can give the earnest and useful suggestion for the primary works of these young artists. Certain comments and efforts, some timessometimes, can serve as a great imputes for these persons to strive for a better works in their future engagement and ultimately make them possible to achieve a long lasting artistic work.


As discussed above, though the artists efforts can serve as the paramount significant in the creation of the work, it cannot musk(
求解此词意思) the role of the critics in the origination of the long lasting works, for the critics cannot long help to the make more persons possible(这个possible没有存在的必要,从中文来看是句意重复) learning and comprehend the true meaning of the arts but also can contributes these artistes to become more skillful and confident in the pursuit of the perfect works.for开始句子有问题,改成for critics can not only help to make more persons learn and comprehend the true meaning of the arts long but also contribute these artistes to become more skillful and confident in the pursuit of the perfect works.

贴到word里时没有出现红,所以让人看上去就舒服

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发表于 2010-7-29 21:49:45 |只看该作者
144"It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value." *a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings
As the old saying gose ,one tree does not make a forest”. Similarily, isolated efforts are of not so much value ,one person alone can not accomplish much .As for the title statement ,I totally agree that artist has created the society a lot of lasting value
. However , the view I hold personally ,either ,is that critic ’s importance on this kind of value is not to ignore.As far as I am concerned ,it is the artist, as well as the critic, who gives society something of lasting value.


Considering novel , fairy tale, notes and something like this ,which is easier for common people to understand
.Artists who created them really weighs much more than critics in creating the value .Take Anderson as an example .Almost everyone in the world has read ,at least know his fairy tales .The beauty ,kindness and truth in his stories are keeping playing an important role in directing people’s ,especially children’ sense of value and life .In this way ,critic seems of no use-----what they say will not shape people’s feeling about the fairy tales, for everyone has his own understanding of Anderson.


However ,other art works ,especially
abstract paintings ,are absolutely not easy for common people to understand . Without critics’ explanation, I’m sure I will catch nothing in Picasso’s expression , let along his expectation for peace . Thanks to critical expers’
detial explorations of Picasso’ works , I could get the light in the great man’s thoughts and was enlightened to think more about it ,so that I myself have the chance to be more kind and wise.


Vencent Van Gogh can be served as an example ,too .It is obviously known that he is not famous in his life time , even suffered a lot from the life . The Red Vineyard is the only paining he had sold out .His works are criticized by
the critics in his times ,concequentely ,were not accepted by the people. However , radiculously ,several years ago ,it is also critics who diged out the values of his painings ,making him become the most famous and greatest artist in the world now. How dare can you overlook
critics’
roles?


Time is changing, society is advancing, while art works remain still .Dozens of different values have to be put on them to keep their impressions on people--------it is critics’ job and mission .To think it over ,in fact ,everyone is a critic when viewing art works,we all have our own conception of them and get different wisedom from them , that is what I think lasting value relys on.

To sum up , both the artist and the critic are contrubuting to the
lasting value ,also,our common people are not an(
我也不知道可以加an ) exception.

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发表于 2010-7-29 22:27:33 |只看该作者
TOPIC: ISSUE144 - "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."

*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
WORDS: 498
TIME: 01:11:22
DATE: 2010-7-29 22:23:38


The speaker emphasizes that the role of an artist weighs higher than that of a critic in attributing lasting value to the society. Yet, from my perspective, as both artists and critics are the essential elements in art circus, they both play an important role in generating lasting value. That is to say, artists are creating art of great value while critics are spreading such value to a large scale, thus giving society what is of lasting value.

Things with lasting value to society are those with great benefits to both the development of social construction and personal ideology. In order to create such meaningful things, artists are in the front, using their pens, vedios, cameras or instructions to produce art, which might enjoy great popularity and sustaining effects later. Vincent Van Gogh, a 19th-century marvelous painter, is famous for his vivid paintings. His works such as The Potato Eaters, Starry Night and Irises had a powerful influence on the development of modern painting, which leaving wonderful visual enjoyment to the offspring. The color he painted is imaginable and abundant, thus making his painting style unique. Nowadays, almost everyone knows about him and his paintings have already been considered as masterpieces.

However, personal impression on artists' works alone can not fully meet people's instinct need of understanding those masterpieces, so people always turn to critics who command a large amount of art knowledge for help. With professional knowledge, critics can outline the characteristics of the artists and his/her works.
For example, Roger Fry, as a critic, became an advocate of recent developments in French painting, to which he gave the name "Post-Impressionism", including the works created by Van Gogh. Roger generalized the distinguishing features of Van Gogh's work, providing people with more concise way to work out the truth of those arts. Therefore, it is critics who narrows the gap between artists and normal people, and spread the masterpieces to more people all over the world.


Moreover, critics can also help artists to better create works by telling them what should be developed in his creation. Since critics have a command of professional knowledge, it is natural for them to have enough foresight which enables them to judge whether a work of art is wonderful or senseless. In other words, critics' judgment and suggestion to artists can save their creating process and also point out the key of being masterpieces. As a result, to better generate the art value of works of art, artists should get a lot of advise from critics of visions and add brilliance to their present works so that to guarantee the works to be of lasting value in later life.

In sum, it is both artists and critics play an essential role in providing people works of lasting value. While artists are producing wonderful works, critics are devoting themselves in judging the value of works and trying to realize the sustaining influence. Neither of the two can be dispensed in attribution to lasting value.

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本帖最后由 agnes2010 于 2010-8-3 00:24 编辑

改 小谦
green- 语法错误
blue-好词好句
red-不理解的地方
purple-建议

Art has many incarnations: drama, music, painting and sculpture, film, such literary expressions as poetry and the novel, the dance, and, in some ways, architecture. Arts create art works, among which something of lasting value are passing from generation to generation. Critics emerged far behind art world began, which support the idea that critics are based on art. However, when critic helps prosper the art by bringing it to public attention, it misleads people.

Art’s primary function is providing entertainment, but art has functions more than that. Another function of art is leading us into a eternal world. For Christians, a Renaissance painting of a Madonna and child is somehow a revelation of surpassing spirituality. A Beethoven symphony is the last word on human endurance.【学习!】 Certain arrangement of color and movement satisfy us for a long time. We judge them as beautiful. Beauty, many may insist, is the very hallmark of what is true ‘art’. These may add a third function of art that is instruction. The Character Shylock in Shakespeare’s novel told us what is inordinate; novel Gone with wind teaches us what wars can undermine. All the narrative art in fact instruct us to some extent: when we watch a moral novel, we see ourselves in the characters, we identify our own destines in the plot and we find the representative of problems in all human relationship. So far, we defined the function of art as enjoyment, beauty and instruction, thus the art gives society something of permanent value.
【这段分析的好有深度啊~例子也恰到好处,描述相当漂亮~建议最后再与artist点一点~ 点题一下!】


Then, what is the function of critics? Carefully delineating art, criticism serves a function by propagating the best ideas so that they trickle down to the masses. Some art like impressionist paintings is too abstract and abstruse to understand by the masses. Critics pick up the best artwork and satirize the distorted ones. Without critics, Van Gogh’s paintings would vanish because when he was alive, no one recognize his greatest and buy his painting. After critic imparts his greatness to the common man, Van Gogh’s paintings become above price.

Critic has received widely acceptance. For example, artists who set appear on the Oprah Winfrey Show are likely to rise to international fame quickly. Critic's opinion can somehow give feedbacks to artists and inspire artists to create wonderful works. We can see this concept in this example that in recent times when lackluster movie and music periods have been kick started by exciting new talent brought to the attention of the masses by critical success. Great criticism springs out of an epoch of great ideas and these epochs are prospered when the great idea reach the masses. Through the above analysis of the function of critic, we can conclude that critic just an attachment to art and they seldom create us something of lasting value.

Moreover, critic may mislead people for art. Some critics, without a high sense of responsibility and good professional conduct, pursue personal interests and interestedly recognize greatness in writing. This cheating will never last long. One the other hand, it has been said that the great art is tend to before its times. Take Van Gogh, for example, wasn’t recognized by critic in his age.

All in all, criticism is a great system that it gives feedback to artists and inspires them. Through the analysis above, we can draw a conclusion that critic is just an accessory of great art. Without art, the critic will never exist. It is art that create something of lasting value. Critic helps society recognize the great art.


【文章中的好词好句真是不胜枚举!!!太值得学习了~~
另外,思路也很棒,尤其shi介绍art功能的一段,感觉很棒!]

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本帖最后由 sharonye 于 2010-7-30 21:34 编辑

It seems that the speaker is on the correct philosophical side of this issue that it is artist not the critic who gives society something of lasting value. I agree with the author insofar as that the greatest artists create splendid works which contribute much to a society. An artist comes up with an artwork through his feeling and thinking of the whole life and the whole society. They create a valuable work of social by superb technique and the special idea. It is these works that bring us abundant social values which let people enjoy the beauty and cleanse the soul in a blundering society.
However, after carefully examining the statement which seems to be somewhat appealing at the first glance, I would like to say that I have enough reasons to present an opposite claim against the author. On the surface artist is the only exclusive to give something of lasting value. But critic finds the value. Critics have an acuminous discernment and can filter what is real deep-dyed thus reduce (觉得用save好一点)people's time and energy. With critics' criticism, people can comprehend the value of artwork better. After All, art is extraordinary abstract that is difficult and impractical for normal person to understand totally. Critics have a wealth of knowledge and great thinking so they are easier than ordinary(感觉有点问题,但也不确定,这个表达。。。) to discover the essence of art at least more easy to tell people what do those artworks truly express. For instance, Don Quixote
(才疏学浅,真不知道这个个的意思,有时间注释一下吧)was recognized to be a funny fiction at first.
Secondly, critics offer a valuable feedback about the artworks thus makes artist keep advances and create better works. A constructive criticism could help artists promote their wording level and tell people how to be a good connoisseur. Artworks are not like the government policy or other things which can feedback(貌似只用作名词) from the benefits of the society. So it lacks of a standard measure of self-scale while the criticism of critics happens to make up this deficiency. Artist can improve him or herself through the praise or criticize arguments, and further to create artwork which can be better reflected in social value.
Of course we have to admit that sometimes critics just play a negative role of function such as prevent art's progressing while the art may need innovation changes or be taken advantages by the government. For example, Mark Twain attacked the political corruption in his novels so the potentate used critics to refute his work; Voltaire objected Shakespeare's works because he didn't conform neo-classical principles.
To sum up, all of the greatest feats in history, which gave society something of lasting value, are those created by artists and evaluated by critics. (说的真好)Appropriate critical evaluation might entice the people's attention towards those works. It is unwise to say that only artist gives society something of lasting value. Critics do plays a significant part in this process. Without critics artworks may not progress fast----and I would be hard-pressed to imagine a worthier end.
(可以告诉我在那么短时间内写出这着高质量文章的秘诀么,亟待赐教,拜托啦,我老要写一个多小时,谢谢O(_)O谢谢)

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