真心求比較

DannonUID: 2917402

15# cacaha
可是你刚说rutger 比osu academic 好？那你是觉得rutger 在top 20？不然按你说的no big difference 为什么他们两个会有优劣之分呢？

嗯，如果说这两个academic 差不多我还是比较可以接受，因为确实所谓排名差一两名都是没有区别的，只是同一个range 的比较有可比性，而这两个确实可以算是一个range 的。反正个人喜好把，毕竟这两个program 即使reputation 差不多，active 的研究方向还是差很多的。如果真想读phd，选择自己想研究的总是有好处，这样来说就没有办法general 的说孰优孰劣了。

693162827UID: 2852994

3# cacaha
THX！
BTW, would you pls give me some detail?

cacahaUID: 2269161

16# Dannon

Do you really think US News rankings is a big deal? For example, OSU and Columbia are only 0.1 in difference and OSU ties with UFL. Do you really conclude OSU is the same with those two? For Rutger, I admit I have bias, as it used to be very popular in my own school (see a post in "jin hua qu"), so forget about it.

As for your initial research interest, I may offend you (forgive me if I do) by saying this. In the long run, it doesn't matter at all. You say you are interested in this and that, and some years later you may consider it rubbish. If you are interested in doing academic research, what matters most is to learn how to do research, not what research, in your PhD studies. And, if you aim at industrial jobs, research interest will be discounted furthermore.

Finally, in the long run, which school you choose doesn't matter. Whether you want academic or industry, it will be best for you to choose a school which will potentially give you the most interview opportunities in the future. The rest is up to you to build your own strength in whichever program you choose.

693162827UID: 2852994

6# celestialmomo
真是太好啦！我OSU和RUTGERS都是MASTER来的。
我QQ：693162827，可能验证有点烦人。不如我加你好了？

693162827UID: 2852994

10# Dannon
所以說你覺得OSU和RUTGERS比起來挺不錯的吧？

celestialmomoUID: 2832013

19# 693162827
恩好的~QQ：153047244

celestialmomoUID: 2832013

18# cacaha
在理！赞一个！我也觉得现在其实不能确定是否真的喜欢自己确定的研究兴趣，或者真的想读完phd。
所以在OSU的phd和rutgers的master中纠结呢。。。而且我想最终还是industry比较好。。。
但是有听说统计的master不如phd好找工作。。。迷茫中。。。求指教。。

celestialmomoUID: 2832013

10# Dannon
谢谢指教！
OHIO财政紧张会不会对以后的奖学金有影响啊~虽然第一年自费，但是负担所有费用肯定不现实。phd呢。。。特恐怖了。。

DannonUID: 2917402

18# cacaha

If you read my post, when I say "因为确实所谓排名差一两名都是没有区别的，只是同一个range 的比较有可比性", I did mean that ranking in usnews (actually ranking in general) is not a big deal at all -- actually after my application process, I don't believe in any rankings anymore. Also for statistics program at UFL, I do think it is the same, or even not as good as the program in OSU for recent years (it was a really good program, but not anymore). I have no saying for Columbia because frankly I know nothing about their program.

For your second point, I agree with you, of course "how to do" is the most important thing, not only for Ph.D studies, it's like universally applicable. However, I still don't think it will hurt if you choose a program has people doing what you like right now (at least what you think you like). I have been places where nobody is doing anything relates to my interest -- which is not unusual at all, for example majority of people in Duke is doing Bayesian, many in OSU is doing spatial, etc, and it is very frustrating. (Also I am the kind of person who considers going with the flow and forces myself doing what I don't like at a particular point of time is a waste of life, kinda idealism you may argue. If you are not like that, forget about it :) . Of course everybody may change sooner or later, but like what I said, it won't hurt, just a potential plus.

Finally, I can't agree more about the part that potential interview opportunities and your own strength are what matter, which is exactly why I said "我认为还是提高自身实力比较靠谱". Also it is the reason why I don't think it's fair to put OSU at a much worse place comparing to PSU or Rutgers -- I do believe that OSU can bring you as many (if not more) interview opportunities as the other two, based on the information I got from several campus visits to schools admitted me (conversations with professors and Ph.D candidates mainly, for our argument's purpose).

Btw, everybody is biased. Like me, I am biased about OSU I guess, since I am likely to go there for my grad studies (have to decide before April 15th, which is soooon. :dizzy:. So if you think what I said is totally rubbish and too biased, forget about it too. :)

DannonUID: 2917402

23# celestialmomo

I got scholarship and likely going there. However, don't put your hope too high of getting financial aid after the first year. When I visited there, some people never have chance getting any financial aid.. (considering the big amount of admission they send out each year, it is reasonable...)

and their fellowship for all departments in the school is only 2/3 of last year... I don't want to get any political, but it's Republican governor's fault...:mad:

DannonUID: 2917402

20# 693162827

They are not that different for me.. but again, I may be biased. :))

cacahaUID: 2269161

24# Dannon

So let's not argue about the "rankings" any more. Particularly if you aim at the industry, no big differences for most schools, although as for location, it is true that "local" is in many times an edge over the "reputation". You are more than obvious in a preference for OSU. But still you ask for others whether it is really better than UCI, so I assume that you may potentially wish that someone may give you a "surprise". And I think there will not be such a surprise. If I were to choose UCI, I can give you 100 reasons why it is better than OSU. And vice versa. And there is another person similarly hesitating between Iowa and FSU. But you can have my word that there are no such big differences (I do not say there is no difference) as you may think among these four schools. It is just a matter of what type of person you are and what type of place you like. So if you have decided, just go!

DannonUID: 2917402

27# cacaha

......sigh... okay, yea, I guess you are right about my case.

lostconchUID: 2473832

rutgers的ad发得也绝对不少吧。rutger地理位置好些，osu的专业水平高一些，个人建议优先考虑便宜的。。
港科是完全另一个story，看你的规划了。对那个fin math的项目的评价也基本上是毁誉参半，但在香港找工作肯定比美国一般学校的ms要方便吧

DannonUID: 2917402

29# lostconch
赞考虑便宜的！