关于涉嫌剽窃的ETS来信全文

paisleyUID: 64183

发信人: elvaforever (最熟悉的陌生人), 信区: GRE
标  题: ETS今天给我的信件全部内容
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Mon Aug  4 21:16:58 2003), 转信
  
Dear Mr Han:
We are writing to you because ETS is concerned,based on a preliminary
review,that there appears
to be substantial envidence that your scores on the March 15,2003 GRE
general Test are invalid.
As you ackonwledged when you registered for the test,ETS has the right
to review the validity of test scores,and to cancel questionable scor
es when we believe there is substantial evidence taht they are invalid
.The enclosed booklet,Why and How Educational Testing Service Question
s Test Scores,provides important information about this process,and we
urge you to read it carefully.
Our preliminary concerns are based on the following factor(s).At the e
ssay reading sessions,the reader noticed that your essay on the issue
topic has unusual similarities with other essays written on the same t
opic.further reviews determined that a portion of your essay contains
ideas,language and/or examples found in other test taker essays or fro
m,published sources that include:
   people dreamed of flying,"fly like a bird",and/or the Wright Brothe
rs and the invention of airplane
ETS is not accusing you of cheating,but the anomalies noted aboved rai
se concerns about the validity of your scores.
At your request,we will send you(or,in the case of secure test materia
l,give you an opptunity to examine)the materials that reflect our conc
erns.
Final decisions about whether there is substantial envidence supportin
g cancellationof test scores are made by three_memeber panels of ETS's
Board of Review.Before the Board of Review considers this matter,you
have an opportunity to send us any information that addresses our conc
erns.Feel free to consult with other people whose judgement you trust.
We must receive any information you would like the Board of Review to
consider by August 14,2003.Any information we
receive by that date ,as well as other information about your scores ,
will be considered by the Board of Review.
If you do not wish the Board of Review to consider this matter,and wou
ld like ETS to cancel your scores and send you a voucher that can be u
sed for registering for a future test,you must tell us by August 14,20
03.
If any single Board of Review member decides that there is not subtant
ial evidence supporting cancellation of your scores,ETS will clear you
r scores and report them to the institutions you designate.If,on the o

ther hand,all three members of the Board of Review panel determine tha
t there is substantial evidence supporting cancellation of your scores
,you will hanve an opportunity to select one of the options listed be
low.These options are described more fully in the enclosed booklet.
  1) Tell us to cancel your scores. You will receive a refund of your
test fee in the form of a voucher that you can use to register for ano
ther scheduled administration.
  2)Let the school or agency to which you are sending the scores decid
e whether or not to use the scores. We will send them our reasons for
questioning your scores with your explanation.We will do this only if
the school or agency agresss to participate.
In addition to the options listed above,we acknowledged your legal rig
ht to seek judicial review
of Board of Review
…………………………………………
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ETS发信了：我的3月G成绩被取消，大家来看看！
转自太傻 作者周天子

昨天收到ETS寄来的信，原以为是成绩单，打开一看竟然取消了我的成绩！
Dear Mr.
We are writing to you because ETS is concerned, based on a preliminary review, that there appears to be substantial evidence that your scores on the March 15,2003 Graduate Record examinations (GRE) General Test are invalid.……
原因如下：
Our preliminary concerns are based on the following factor(s). At the essay reading sessions, the readers noticed that your essay on the issue topic has unusual similarities with other essays written on the same topic. ——这一段确认了前段时间的猜测，没到成绩的果然是作文出了问题。
Further reviews determined that a portion of your essay contains ideas, language and/or examples found in other test taker essays or from published sources that include:
*people dreamed of flying, “fly like a bird”, and/or the Wright Brothers and the invention of airplane; ——我不记得考试的时候是否用了这个例子，但是这个举例明显难以让人信服，有人写过赖特兄弟造飞机，我就不能写了吗？
ETS is not accusing you of cheating, but the anomalies noted above raise concerns about the validity of your scores.（这句最狠，不说你cheating，就是没成绩，靠！）
ETS信的下文还提到可以在8月22号之前提出最后一次申诉，重判作文卷，三个评委如果有一个认为你的文章没问题，你就没问题。但这样的概率有多大？
ETS说申诉失败有两种选择：1、免费再考一次（惺惺作态！！！）
2、如果想要去的学校接受这样的问题成绩，ETS可以寄，但会
告诉对方你的成绩是有问题的。
有哪位G友和我同病相怜吗？大家讨论一下怎么办！


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立花道雪UID: 114678

这个是他受到成绩之后还是一直没受到成绩

people dreamed of flying,"fly like a bird",and/or the Wright Brothe
rs and the invention of airplane
这个是细节？不认为作弊
只是说他的validity有问题  者代表什么

sacrabUID: 140880

ETS举的例子我觉得很荒谬啊！

立花道雪UID: 114678

可能还有细节没有列举把

透明妮吧UID: 120551

可能是这个细节他们在别人的文章上也看到过。

wzggzwUID: 138370

觉得这里说的理由根本就不充分，不过给人感觉好像已经掌握充分的证据一样。
真想看看ets寄给他的说明问题的材料

paisleyUID: 64183

转自太傻 作者周天子

昨天收到ETS寄来的信，原以为是成绩单，打开一看竟然取消了我的成绩！
Dear Mr.
We are writing to you because ETS is concerned, based on a preliminary review, that there appears to be substantial evidence that your scores on the March 15,2003 Graduate Record examinations (GRE) General Test are invalid.……
原因如下：
Our preliminary concerns are based on the following factor(s). At the essay reading sessions, the readers noticed that your essay on the issue topic has unusual similarities with other essays written on the same topic. ——这一段确认了前段时间的猜测，没到成绩的果然是作文出了问题。
Further reviews determined that a portion of your essay contains ideas, language and/or examples found in other test taker essays or from published sources that include:
*people dreamed of flying, “fly like a bird”, and/or the Wright Brothers and the invention of airplane;       ——我不记得考试的时候是否用了这个例子，但是这个举例明显难以让人信服，有人写过赖特兄弟造飞机，我就不能写了吗？
ETS is not accusing you of cheating, but the anomalies noted above raise concerns about the validity of your scores.（这句最狠，不说你cheating，就是没成绩，靠！）
ETS信的下文还提到可以在8月22号之前提出最后一次申诉，重判作文卷，三个评委如果有一个认为你的文章没问题，你就没问题。但这样的概率有多大？
ETS说申诉失败有两种选择：1、免费再考一次（惺惺作态！！！）
                        2、如果想要去的学校接受这样的问题成绩，ETS可以寄，但会
                           告诉对方你的成绩是有问题的。
有哪位G友和我同病相怜吗？大家讨论一下怎么办！

tjtest356UID: 128979

我认为千万别选2 因为感觉老美不会相信咱
选1 的话 这次成绩怎么算? 取消 还是留有案底?
还有如果重考又被判为INVALID怎么办还能重考?

ETS is not accusing you of cheating, but the anomalies noted above raise concerns about the validity of your scores.（这句最狠，不说你cheating，就是没成绩，靠！）
其实ETS也拿不出确凿的证据说你是cheating都是猜测 ETS的逻辑性很强啊不让你找出破绽

pbmnUID: 122564

怎么举例都不行啊？
不过为什么许多人写莱特兄弟呢？

imongUID: 140258

paisley倒霉的不会是你吧？天哪，无语……
想不出来什么好建议，同情，问问11月有没有人也是这样，他们怎么做的？

我觉得机考可能会好一点，毕竟题目要分散的多，但是也不排除“非正常战斗减员”的可能

realturtleUID: 69047

奇怪啊，我觉得这次的做法比上次又有不同，上次是直接取消，这次可以选择refund，又可以选发信到寄成绩的学校去说明情况，这样好像更不好了。至少第二种情况很要命啊。

也许就凭flying like a bird, 赖特兄弟的例子就可以判cheating or invalid，似乎证据不足？

tomatoeggsUID: 82073

people dreamed of flying,"fly like a bird",and/or the Wright
Brothers and the invention of airplane ETS is not accusing you of
cheating,     

看来是BT 的ETS越来越讲究文章的独立性和个性的发挥了，我也觉得他们简直是无理！不过，我如果是当事人的话，我会选择1而非2，毕竟让学校知道了你有作弊嫌疑是最大的失败。

再考一次吧。不过这次，确实要小心了，现在模考的时候就不断警醒自己一碰到NCE4的资料或孙远的论点，最好尽量换一种说法而非直接照抄。起码有分数好过没分数了。

wendysunUID: 113798

汗~~我在模考的时候坚决不会采用nc4和孙远的东东，那个监测雷同的软件挺没人性的，不和它较劲！！

paisleyUID: 64183

啊，是我转载的，倒霉的兄弟不是我。

真是的，不过我觉得比起上次来已经有所进步了。总算还可以免费重考一次。

不过这种说法实在是很BT啊。可恶的ETS!!

treesUID: 82785

没人性。我不抄，不仿，生自己写，不会雷同，但也不会高：（