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发表于 2003-9-14 16:09:15 |显示全部楼层
212. "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it are justifiable."  

The speaker claim that if a goal if worthwhile, then any means taken to achieve this goal is justifiable. Although the assertion makes sense when we consider the underlying of this implication is that whatever the conditions, the natures of the endings deserve our effort wholehearted. But if we examine the broad meaning that this claim carries, we find this threshold statement suffer deficiencies from many aspects of consideration.

First let define the worthiness of a goal. How worthwhile and valuable a goal is lies not only in the subjective meditation and evaluation of an individual, we must consider the interactive influence exerted by this goal on others. For example, a country may consider the goal of achieving economic success and well being of its citizens to be worthwhile, but if we know they exploit cheap labor forces in third-world country, utilize scarce natural resources that being exported from poor countries, or dump low-cost goods in these countries, our morals reveal us the dark side of the goal and make it less worthwhile than it seems to be to its home people.  On a personal level, a person’s food might be the others’ poison, so did the goal. Consider the ambition of Napoleon, his ambitious goal is to conquer the whole European Continent, which considered by himself and many of his follows to be the most glorious plan they have ever made. But by resorting to wars, killings, and blood shedding, their sweet dream turn out to be the nightmare of people habituating in this continent. In a word, since no goal is set from a pure disinterested, impartial perspective, it is necessary to bear the interwoven relationship in mind before targeting at a certain goal.

Even if a goal is worthwhile agreed by majority of people, we should consider cost-and-benefit side of things in an effort to obtaining an nonbiased, all-around point of view. Most people today agree that the exploration of outer space is a worthy goal considering the valuable research materials we would get from for our physics and medial experiment and weather forecast.  What is more, due to the limit longevity of earth and the ever increasing of populations, we see high calls to find another habitat for our future generations. Even if all the advantages and benefits involved justify the worthiness of this goal, not all means taken would be considered as sensible and judicial. Since most pressing social problem such as AIDS prevention, poverty, environmental problems still in need of immediate attention and observation, we need to allocate most of our resources to tackle these problems. As a result, even if one way of achieving the breakthrough in out space exploration would be to devote all research staff and available resource to this project, we have to struggle a balance between the worthiness of a goal and the proper way to obtain this goal.

The above statement is welcomed and readily embraced by the new trend of practicality since in a society where personal achievement is highly valued, we look more to ending than means. That is to say, people tend to neglect and forgive their own wrongdoings or others’ wrongdoings in a sense that their goals are goodwill –intending and worthwhile. For one thing, for a personal, a society, or even a nation, even they consider things from a totally isolated or functional perspective, no matter how great achievement they obtain, they are selfish losers with nothing to be accomplished from the physiological point of view. In the second place, we observe too many cases where good intention result in total chaos derive not from the dirty tricks they construe but out of the improper means they take. Since the founding of People’s Republic of China, under the leadership of Chairman Mao, China has undergone a reform in the area of economy, which is to implement planned economy. Mao’s intention is good, and his goal is to realize communalisms in this new country to short its economic gap with the western country in the shortest as possible. But without considering the properness of this means from the economic and social point of view, he threw china into years of economic regression and stillness. Ideas went contrary to our wills and intentions occasionally and thus make the consideration and full analyzes of the means to obtaining goals even pressing.

To sum up, I am against the speaker’s assertion since he neglects one important aspect of how to evaluate goals. To devote to a worth goal is justifiable and the effort instilled in this process deserve our accolade since it is always this power that push the society forward. But by neglecting the means of how to obtain these goals, we put ourselves in an embarrassing place of functionalists and opportunists. As a result, it is highly resulted to look from different perspectives to figure our where the true value of a goal lies and how to achieve it.

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发表于 2003-9-14 18:09:10 |显示全部楼层
212. "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it are justifiable."

The speaker claim that if a goal if (is)worthwhile, then any means taken to achieve this goal is justifiable. Although the assertion makes sense when we consider the underlying of this implication is that whatever the conditions, the natures of the endings deserve our effort wholehearted. But if we examine the broad meaning that this claim carries, we find this threshold statement suffer deficiencies from many aspects of consideration.

First let define the worthiness of a goal. How worthwhile and valuable a goal is lies not only in the subjective meditation and evaluation of an individual, we must consider the interactive influence exerted by this goal on others. For example, a country may consider the goal of achieving economic success and well being of its citizens to be worthwhile, but if we know they exploit cheap labor forces in third-world country,(在我看来发达国家利用发展中国家的廉价劳动力是一个双赢的举动,并没有损害发展中国家的利益.没有廉价劳动力,外资会来吗?我们的经济会腾飞吗?这个例子用在这里不太合适) utilize scarce natural resources that being exported from poor countries, or dump low-cost (低价格不等于低质量,草率推广)goods in these countries, our morals reveal us the dark side of the goal and make it less worthwhile than it seems to be to its home people.(后面这半句我不是很明白,您能解释一下吗?不好意思) On a personal level, a person’s food might be the others’ poison, so did the goal. Consider the ambition of Napoleon, his ambitious goal is to conquer the whole European Continent, which considered by himself and many of his follows to be the most glorious plan they have ever made. But by resorting to wars, killings, and blood shedding, their sweet dream turn out to be the nightmare of people habituating in this continent. In a word, since no goal is set from a pure disinterested, impartial perspective, it is necessary to bear the interwoven relationship in mind before targeting at a certain goal.(发达国家的例子我觉得不太合适.第一是否造成损害就是个问题;第二双边合作涉及到两个国家,就算受到了损害,发展中国家也要负很大责任.)

Even if a goal is worthwhile agreed by majority of people, we should consider cost-and-benefit side of things in an effort to obtaining an nonbiased, all-around point of view. Most people today agree that the exploration of outer space is a worthy goal considering the valuable research materials we would get from for our physics and medial experiment and weather forecast. What is more, due to the limit longevity of earth and the ever increasing of populations, we see high calls to find another habitat for our future generations. (这里是不是加一个转折词好一些?像however)Even if all the advantages and benefits involved justify the worthiness of this goal, not all means taken would be considered as sensible and judicial. Since most pressing social problem such as AIDS prevention, poverty, environmental problems still in need of immediate attention and observation, we need to allocate most of our resources to tackle these problems. As a result, even if one way of achieving the breakthrough in out space exploration would be to devote all research staff and available resource to this project, we have to struggle a balance between the worthiness of a goal and the proper way to obtain this goal.(说proper way 好像不太合适,第一这一段不是在说手段而是all-around point of view是时机的选择和各方面矛盾的平衡;第二和下一段重复了)

The above statement is welcomed and readily embraced by the new trend of practicality since in a society where personal achievement is highly valued, we look more to ending than means. That is to say, people tend to neglect and forgive their own wrongdoings or others’ wrongdoings in a sense that their goals are goodwill –intending and worthwhile. For one thing, for a personal, a society, or even a nation, even(这里改用if是不是好一些?) they consider things from a totally isolated or functional perspective, no matter how great achievement they obtain, they are selfish losers with nothing to be accomplished from the physiological point of view. In the second place, we observe too many cases where good intention result in total chaos derive not from the dirty tricks they construe but out of the improper means they take. Since the founding of People’s Republic of China, under the leadership of Chairman Mao, China has undergone a reform in the area of economy, which is to implement planned economy. Mao’s intention is good, and his goal is to realize communalisms in this new country to short its economic gap with the western country in the shortest as possible. But without considering the properness of this means from the economic and social point of view, he threw china into years of economic regression and stillness. Ideas went contrary to our wills and intentions occasionally and thus make the consideration and full analyzes of the means to obtaining goals even pressing.最后这句话读起来有些别扭.

To sum up, I am against the speaker’s assertion since he(注意但三人称的使用) neglects one important aspect of how to evaluate goals. To devote to(这里是用to吗?) a worth goal is justifiable and the effort instilled in this process deserve our accolade since it is always this power that push the society forward. But by neglecting the means of how to obtain these goals, we put ourselves in an embarrassing place of functionalists and opportunists.(文章中好像没有体现opportunists) As a result, it is highly resulted to look from different perspectives to figure our where the true value of a goal lies and how to achieve it.

第一段说suffer deficiencies from many aspects of consideration.
最后一段又说 neglects one important aspect of how to evaluate goals.是不是前后有些不一致?而且文中分三段写1个体目标对他人的影响2全面观点3手段是否合适.而最后一段似乎只说了neglecting the means of how to obtain these goals, 如果是要总结的话,建议写全.

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发表于 2003-9-14 19:17:24 |显示全部楼层
The speaker claim that if a goal if (is) worthwhile, then any means taken to achieve this goal is justifiable. Although the assertion makes sense when we consider the underlying of this implication is that (是不是改成underlying implication that )whatever the conditions(the condition is), the natures of the endings deserve our effort wholehearted.(看不明白,这句是不是下一句的状语?如果是就得连一起啊?) But if we examine the broad meaning that this claim carries, we find this threshold statement suffer deficiencies from many aspects of consideration.

First let(let’s) define the worthiness of a goal. How worthwhile and valuable a goal is lies not only in the subjective meditation and evaluation of an individual, we must  consider the interactive (应该是external,你这里说的是单向的) influence exerted by this goal on others. For example, a country may consider the goal of achieving economic success and well being of its citizens to be worthwhile, but if we know they exploit cheap labor forces in third-world country, utilize scarce natural resources that being exported (imported ?) from poor countries, or dump low-cost goods in these countries, our morals reveal us(不妥)the dark side of the goal and make it less worthwhile than it seems to be to its home people (natives). On a personal level, a person’s food might be the others’ poison, so did the goal. Consider the ambition of Napoleon, his ambitious goal is to conquer the whole European Continent, which considered by himself and many of his follows to be the most glorious plan they have ever made. But by resorting to wars, killings, and blood shedding, their sweet dream turn (时态) out to be the nightmare of people habituating (settled) in this continent. In a word, since no goal is set from a pure disinterested, impartial perspective, it is necessary to bear the interwoven relationship in mind before targeting at a certain goal.

Even if a goal is worthwhile agreed by majority of people, we should consider cost-and-benefit side of things in an effort to obtaining a nonbiased, all-around point of view. Most people today agree that the exploration of outer space is a worthy goal considering the valuable research materials we would get from (it) for our physics and medial experiment and weather forecast. What is more, due to the limit(ed) longevity of earth and the ever increasing of populations, we see high calls to find another habitat for our future generations. Even if all the advantages and benefits involved justify the worthiness of this goal, not all means taken would be considered as sensible and judicial. Since most pressing social problem(s) such as AIDS prevention, poverty, environmental problems are still in need of immediate attention and observation, we need to allocate most of our resources to tackle these problems. As a result, even if one way of achieving the breakthrough in out space exploration would be to devote all research staff and available resource to this project, we have to struggle a balance between the worthiness of a goal and the proper way to obtain this goal.(我觉得你这段里缺个连接,是不是考虑这样:not all means taken would be considered as sensible and judicial,for they will consume such a huge amount of limited social resources, which was originally planned to used in some most pressing social problem……,老外不懂机会成本地)

The above statement is welcomed and readily embraced by the new trend of practicality (practicalism )since in a society where personal achievement is highly valued, we look more to ending than means. That is to say, people tend to neglect and forgive their own wrongdoings or others’ wrongdoings in a sense that their goals are goodwill –intending and worthwhile. For one thing, for a personal, a society, or even a nation, even they consider things from a totally isolated or functional perspective, no matter how great achievement they obtain, they are selfish losers with nothing to be accomplished from the physiological point of view. In the second place, we observe too many cases where good intention result in total chaos derive not from the dirty tricks they construe but out of the improper means they take. Since the founding of People’s Republic of China, under the leadership of Chairman Mao, China has undergone a reform in the area of economy, which is to implement planned economy. Mao’s intention is good, and his goal is to realize communalisms in this new country to short(en) its economic gap with the western country in the shortest (as soon as) as possible. But without considering the properness of this means from the economic and social point of view, he threw china into years of economic regression and stillness. Ideas went contrary to our wills and intentions occasionally and thus make the consideration and full analyzes of the means to obtaining goals even pressing.

To sum up, I am against the speaker’s assertion since he neglects one important aspect of how to evaluate goals. To devote to a worth goal is justifiable and the effort instilled in this process deserve our accolade since it is always this power that push the society forward. But by neglecting the means of how to obtain these goals, we put ourselves in an embarrassing(ed) place of functionalists and opportunists. As a result, it is highly resulted (?) to look from different perspectives to figure our where the true value of a goal lies and how to achieve it.

好文!
结构上层层递进相当漂亮,遗憾的是最后一个方面的论述好象逻辑连接有些欠缺
用词够大胆,不过有时候为追求华丽而失了精确,这样做是好还是不好我也不知道,说不定老外喜欢,句式也很地道
你怎么能写出那么多的?强烈向你学习中……!

btw:这个帖子怎么跑到这里来了?刚刚在作文版找半天

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