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发表于 2012-6-11 17:26:51 |只看该作者

申请psycho-oncology in Department of community medicine（HKU)的全过程

（丁香园也发过，一样的内容http://www.dxy.cn/bbs/thread/22800899#22800899）
本篇为LZ在申请过程中和教授的交流情况。LZ的eamil是没有太多改动，除了有些与专业有关。教授的基本都经过翻译，没有全文贴上。

这会是一篇很长的笔记，因为这本就是一段很长的历程。本科毕业考研的时候，选择了肿瘤学；硕士阶段仍旧是放不下对于心理学的爱好。所以，觉得这两个是可以结合的。想到了可以继续读书。网上查了以后才发现，原来有一门叫做肿瘤心理学的交叉学科。本科从来没有想象过要申请学校。我考虑申请大约是从2010年上半年开始。一开始，比较傻，以为念书一定是需要很多钱的，包括申请也要花很多钱，GT当然也要钱。幸而父母、学校和医院给了我想象未来的空间。前前后后大概花去两万多在考试和申请上。

2010年06月04日 23:05 (星期五)

Dear Sir/Madam，

Thank you for your precious time forreading this email.

I amcurrently a graduate student studying in …… University majored inOncology. With a plan for furthereducation and study in Psycho-oncology, I am very interested in the researchtraining in Psycho-oncology and also the scholarship. However, I did not findits requirement, neither when nor how I could apply. Would you please help mewith this?

Please detail the requirement.

Thank you for your help!

Have a good day!

Sincerely,

**

2010年06月08日 10:01 (星期二)

Dear ～～,

谢谢你的邮件。

这是给已经注册了的学生的。

Thank,

××

COMMENT:这是妞第一次尝试去表达这个愿望，而且以为一定要有scholarship才能念书去，所以，这个相当于拒绝吧。妞伤心了。

然而贼心不死～

10月5日，妞又写信去HKU的public health的general office of phd program，表达对于psycho-oncology的渴望。结果，这个先生把邮件转给了原先告诉我不行的那个××教授。原邮件及××教授回信如下：

2010年10月05日 01:34 (星期二)

Sir/Madam,

It's a pleasure to have you read my mail !

I am writing to inquire some informationabout further study . I have been wishing to do some research aboutpsycho-oncology for a long time.

As a medical student from China, I amworking on my second year of the three years' master course in oncology. Myhospital, ………… CANCER CENTER, which located in ** , is one of the best cancer hospitals in China. It's wonderful to study here.

During the rotation , I found that thereare so many patients live with cancer. How could they get through the hard timewhen they were diagnosed with cancer? And how will they live a long time with athreat of death? I wish there is a way to help them.

In 2007, I took a course hold by thePsychological Society of Jiangsu Province (China) ，then I got the Assistant Counselorqualification certificate admitted by our country. It's a deep will in my heartto learn psycho-oncology, and know how to do some psychological research amongpatients with cancer. I believe these researches called by "psychosocialoncology" or "psycho-oncology" will help improve cancerpatients' life.

After some research online , I found thatit is still a beginning when considering about psychosocial oncology in China'smainland, maybe because psychology is still making its difficult way here. So Iwish to study outside of the mainland. I believe your school is the best placein Asia ,and is the best one for me, for you have been working in thisdiscipline based on Chinese people for a long time. You have much experienceabout this kind of researches.

What mentioned above is the basicbackground of mine. And I will finish master course in June of 2012, also , Iam preparing for GRE and TOEFL.

If I want to continue my study in yourdepartment, am I eligible to apply for a graduate or postgraduate course inpsycho-oncology there, with presenting my GRE , TOEFL, psychology SUB GRE records, and my records ofprevious study?

I need your suggestion very much!

Thank you!

Have a good day!

2010年10月05日 09:03 (星期二)

Dear Ms **,

Dr. && 把你的邮件转给我了。

我们最近正在考虑有能力在大陆范围内采集数据的学生，因为大部分大陆同学都不会说粤语。

如果你仍旧考虑到我们这里来学习，希望你提交一份proposal.

我们最近正在研究的领域如下：…………

我们也考虑研究一些对于你所在城市的肿瘤病人及高发人群有关的问题。

Please let me know if you wish to continueto develop your ideas.

如果你不打算来这里学习，我们一样可以提供给你研究方面的帮助。

If you have any further questions, feelfree to email.

Best wishes,

××

COMMNET:这个，这个…………当时一看就激动了。明显教授的态度是积极的。提出了两个问题：一，我不会说粤语的可能（我的确不会说）。二，我要写个proposal，（我压根儿就不知道proposal应该长啥样子）。三，无论我的态度如何，我都应该回复，而且就算我不去那里，他们也愿意给我提供这方面研究的帮助（这才是一个研究者应该有的态度）。膜拜～～～

妞不淡定地请教朋友们应该怎么回复，朋友都很热心，然而，最终的回复还是我自己搞定的。（事非亲历不知难，其实也不是难，而是，这究竟是怎样的过程）。

2010年10月07日 22:45

Dear Prof ××,

I was great encouraged by your reply, thankyou!

Yes, I am eager to explain my ideas to you.

Currently, I am interested in these topics:

⑴Treatmentdecision making in breast cancer (Gynecological cancer)

You have done a great job around this inHong Kong. However, ** is different.The groups are complex. Residents in **mostly stay. People who moved in to **in the last two decades change the whole age distribution, the education level,and even some tradition. How do they make their decisions when they needsurgery? How will this affect their life?

Decision making is also important topatients with Gynecological cancer (especially cervical and endometrialcancer). Keep the ovaries or not? Total hysterectomy or subtotal hysterectomy?Should vagina be kept if one needs to run a risk of recurrence? All thesedecisions will affect their life.

If permitted, comparing the data collectedfrom Hong Kong with that from ** maytell us more interesting stories.

⑵ Quality oflife of the patients without medical insurance

There are still many patients withoutmedical insurance in **. How much theyhave been suffering from the economic burden and cancer? Does this economicstrain affect their recovering?

⑶Choice ofsome medical examination during diagnosis and screening(Especially PET/CT)

PET/CT is of great importance to diagnosecancer, especially some metastatic carcinoma with unknown primary tumor. It isalso the key examination when people want a head to toe examination. Somepeople develop psychological dependence on it, without considering about theextra exposure to X-rays. However, it is not cheap. Spending 8000 YUAN needs adetermination for most families.

Some other examinations may need surveytoo, such as lymph node biopsy.

⑷TraditionalChinese Medicine help patients recovery psychologically

During the Long-term follow-up, usually, nowestern medicine will be prescribed to patients. So, they come to thedepartment of Traditional Chinese Medicine. It may not have the power to curecancer, however, it plays a great role when doctors don’t know what toprescribe. Can this be evaluated?

⑸Patients’ behavior after surgery ,whoseprimary tumor could not be found

There are some patients coming for surgerybecause of metastatic carcinoma, however the primary cancer couldn’t be found.This kind of cancer can be concluded as unknown primay cancer. Unknown primarycancer (UPC) is a common, well-recognized clinical syndrome, accounting for 4%to 5% of all invasive cancers. After the surgery, besides chemotherapy, doctorsnearly don’t have suggestions anymore. How will they handle their life withthreat of recurrence, which has a great chance?[1-3]

These are some of my immature ideas. Theyneed further development, which may cost a little more time.

(If you are interested, can I tell you moreabout the research environment in **?)

Generally, I love this discipline. I wantto help improve patients’ life, reduce the chance that high-risk individualssuffer from cancer.

Your school has been working in thisdiscipline for many years. I believe your great achievement, rigorousscientific attitude and persistent concern about the people all derive fromdeep love in your heart.

That will be great honor if I have thechance to work with your faculty! I am sure it will make me a better researcherand better doctor!

Thank you so much!

Best regards!

Your sincerely , ～～

2010-10-07

References:

[1]. Greco, F.A. and J.D. Hainsworth, Introduction: unknown primary cancer.Semin Oncol, 2009. 36(1): p. 6-7.

[2]. Mintzer, D.M., et al. , Cancer of unknown primary: changing approaches.A multidisciplinary case presentation from the Joan Karnell cancer center ofpennsylvania hospital. Oncologist, 2004. 9(3): p. 330-8.

[3]. Varadhachary, G.R., J.L. Abbruzzese and R. Lenzi, Diagnostic strategiesfor unknown primary cancer. Cancer, 2004. 100(9): p. 1776-85.

COMMENT:妞逃避了一个问题，就是妞会不会说粤语。因为不知道他为什么问，我担心我不会，他就不要我。所以，就逃避了。

悲剧的是，教授没有回复。我不知道他心里怎么想，是不是我写得太无厘头，或者他压根儿就不想要我。

后来事情多了，我也没法考虑这个问题。

====================================================（分割线）

到了2011年，仍旧在混吃等死。7月的时候，有同学介绍给我很积极的朋友。我后来意识到，该干活了。该准备的材料不赘述了。

2011年11月26日我完成了申请过程。后来就再跟××教授交流。

Dear Professor ××,

I wrote an email to you to express mydesire for a PhD program in psycho-oncology last year.

Now I am applying for PhD program throughthe online application system.

And I have paid the fee. Attached is aproposal I uploaded today. I think it may need much improvement.

Please consider my application.

A journey with you will be a great startfor my career.

Your sincerely,

××

2011-11-24

（忘了添加附件，后来又发了一封过去）

我使用的proposal不要贴出来，因为写得太烂了。

教授回了，关于我的application和proposal，如下

2011年11月28日 10:57

本邮件涉及proposal的讨论，教授指出了我的一堆问题。我确实没有用公共卫生的方法做过研究……

COMMENT:总之是问题一堆，我被砸傻了………………没有及时回复

2011年12月02日 16:08

Dear ～～

我们一般不做你的proposal里面的研究，而且你也不会说粤语。你看你是否需要联系其他的教授。

请尽快回复是否还需要我们考虑你的申请。

Thx

××

（电闪雷鸣！@￥#%……&）

我的想法都在这两封邮件里了。

2011年12月04日 14:01 (星期日)

Dear Professor ～～

I am sorry for the delaying.

I want to join your team and study. Itreasure this chance to be my major choice for the future career, so I think Ihave to make a better reply.

First, I am so afraid of losing this chance;however, to be honest, I don't speak Cantonese fluently. We do watch TVB sometimes;however, it will take more time to make myself understood in Cantonese.

Second, I sure can collect data in。。。。。。. 理由等等等

Third, I know～～～～～～～～～～～～. Your work is what I want to follow in the future. I need a lot ofpromotion in~~~~~~~~~~~~, which cannot be realized without your instruction.

So, please, please take my application intoconsideration.

About another major problem, that is myproposal. I want to revise it or transfer to a new thesis. Please let me talkabout it in another email.

Best wishes!

Sincerely,

。。。。。

2011-12-04

2011年12月04日 16:55

Dear Professor ～～

About the major problem, that is myproposal. I want to revise it or transfer to a new thesis.

At first, I think there is a place forpsycho-oncology in decision for using TCM just like women patients choose theirsurgical ways for breast cancer. There are articles about the relationshipbetween personalities and decision for Complementary medicineuse(PMID:20978154,PMID:18991517). I want to make two comparisons, first,comparison between healthy people and patients(families) involved by cancer;second, comparison by following up some patients at their first month diagnosedwith cancer and the 12th month, to find what factors(knowledge, personalitiesor healthy conditions) contribute in the decision for choosing TCM.

The hypothesis I want to test is that TCMand modern western medicine combine to make up the knowledge of cancer inChinese people, and what personalities matter the most in using TCM has to befound in this study.

About how to collect data, I want torecruit 500 healthy people by email, letter or conversation. The number"500" may be controlled by the number of patients we recruit inhospital in setting up time.。。。。。。。。。。。. Then thepatients I can recruit are just confined by my ability to work alone. I haven'tdone this kind of research using questionnaire before, so the number need to becorrected as your research experience in the past.

As you mentioned, your team don't doresearches about TCM. I need some time to develop another proposal. All of yourthemes are worth researching to me. It would be much better for me if you makesome specific suggestions.

And, we are both curious about my abilityto work alone. So would you mind letting me take part in one of your researchesnow? If the data are collected by questionnaires, I can use them to collectdata in。。。。。。。in mypart time. You may add the results in your analysis.（妞急疯了，看出来了没）

Please consider my suggestions.

Best wishes!

Your Sincerely,

。。。。。。。。

2011年12月05日 10:48

Dear 。。。。

这样就好多了。如果将来能在………采集数据会很有利。

关于proposal，你并不需要在将来一定做你现在propose的项目，有变化的余地。但是，你一定要有在正式入读PHD后短时间内制定研究计划的能力，我建议你多读一点儿心理学方面的书。这样将来如果被我们接收的话，你也不是对心理学一无所知。

Best

××

2011年12月08日

教授告诉我，我的申请他们没有接到。其实是因为我把申请递交错了地方。

后来我提供了申请号，教授把申请找到了。为这个，我跟他通了不到两分钟的电话。后来，并没有其他特别正式的面试了。

2011年12月14日

教授发来邮件告诉我，他已经通过了我的材料，递交给了Faculty Higher Degrees committee。

之后的两个月里，妞过得挺不好的，因为压力特别大，还前前后后申请了一些美国的学校，但是都申请的肿瘤免疫方向。拒信都贴出来了。

也跟教授讨论过将来的研究方向，不过因为事情特别多，我专心不下来。甚至还担心，要是教授不支持我了要怎么办。

过年也没有回家，完全的自闭倾向。

2012年02月15日

Dear ～～

You're shortlistedand just preliminary approved by our faculty. Your application to be forwarded to HKU graduate School for furtherapproval. Please wait.

fyi, the resultwill be online released starting from March 2012: http://www0.hku.hk/gradsch/web/apply/result.htm

General Office

这就是传说中的推研信啊～～突然接到，这就是那个Faculty Higher Degrees committee 的回音。

后来就是等graduate school的消息。不过听说，有了这个消息的同学基本上没有大问题。

和寄托上的朋友一起等。

2012年03月13日（终于等到状态改变）

Dear ～～,

---Your Applicationfor 。。。。。。。。

The result of yourapplication for admission to the PhD programme is now available. To check yourapplication result, please login to http://www.hku.hk/gradsch/status with yourapplication number, surname and date of birth. Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Graduate School

The University ofHong Kong

十天以后的23日，我收到了一个小小的信封，里面是con-offer。

到这里，我的经历就是这样。其他的关于接到这个con-offer以后的事情就是公共的了，寄托上的好帖特别多。

感想是，做自己想做的事情，执着地坚持。

真心做学术的人都特别好，比方我现在的老板，还有HKU的教授。

希望，我能顺利毕业，去香港，发现我能做的事情，并且做好它们。

That’s it.

（另，我贴一些东西出来，希望大家别照搬我的句式，里面还是有很多错误的。研究内容方面的，如果有志同道合者，简直太好了。）

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