关于UTK农经

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小小岛民 发表于 2013-5-4 23:04
TAMU也只能给这么些，UMN给九个月，平均到12个月，也就这么些……不过跟Tech挂钩的学校（GIT和VT）能给17 ...

VT的农经不知道，经济今年每个月给1529，给9个月。不过，黑堡那个地方，也肯定够了。

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MaxFeburarybird 发表于 2013-5-3 22:23
哦~~~这样啊。。。那明大的农经咋样啊？我只是知道明大General 经济是top 10 level 的，而且是注重我喜 ...

我这回选校的时候去明大应经系做过校访，他们的director和博士生告诉我国际和宏观的方面不是他们的重点区域，而且那个方向比较好的教授就两个。总的看来，感觉和东北的这些农经系一样，都是环境经济这块最active。

如果你拿到明大的offer，那就要恭喜了，因为他们director跟我讲这个offer是guarantee你从入学一直到毕业的全部时间的，用她的原话说叫做“如果他们想在这里待四年，我们就保证四年，如果他们想待五年我们就保证五年”。这也就意味着如果一开始没有offer，后面虽说有可能搞到钱，但那个风险会很大了。

不过对于搞宏观的人来说，明大是个很不错的选择，因为听说他们econ系和一般的top10不一样，他们为了能够加强他们宏观理论方面的师资资源，把他们计量的全部课程设为选修，所以他们自己承认他们的计量和统计不怎么样。他们的农经系和经济系的教育体制几乎不分彼此，大部分农经系的中国学生都会选择econ的sequence而不是本系的sequence，自然qualify也是和econ的学生一起考。那边老师觉得学生也应该严格要求自己，更多的去econ谋求发展而不是把眼界限于农经。

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crossyouth 发表于 2013-5-4 18:05
我这回选校的时候去明大应经系做过校访，他们的director和博士生告诉我国际和宏观的方面不是他们的重点 ...

UMN环境方向有一个原来在Oregon state的老师，Polasky，不知道他怎么样？如果以后找教职的话，农经旗下的环境可能是以后进入经济系的一条途径。UMN的选课和农经培养体制还真不清楚。

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小小岛民 发表于 2013-5-5 07:28
UMN环境方向有一个原来在Oregon state的老师，Polasky，不知道他怎么样？如果以后找教职的话，农经旗下的 ...

这不是抢经济系下面一大批applied micro的饭碗嘛

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halking 发表于 2013-5-4 18:53
这不是抢经济系下面一大批applied micro的饭碗嘛

我只是这么想，大概好一些的农经环境方向毕业的同学可以去跟经济系的同学拼一下一百多名学校经济系的教职。当然经济系还是喜欢本门中人，我只是猜想而已。不知道版主对于农经毕业生找工作有什么见解？

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小小岛民 发表于 2013-5-5 08:03
我只是这么想，大概好一些的农经环境方向毕业的同学可以去跟经济系的同学拼一下一百多名学校经济系的教职 ...

我们系今年有个女生就拿到了California state - Fresno ECON的AP，方向是urban and regional economics。其实她是做climate change 和 migration的。
ohio state每年都有人去ECON做AP，虽然学校排名都一般，但是传统的所谓的农经不能在econ找工作的框架已经基本被打破了。

public policy也算一个很好的突破口吧，农经本身的job market size比较小。稍微小点的学校都不设农经系，所以农经必须有在外系找工作的option。

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小小岛民 发表于 2013-5-4 18:28
UMN环境方向有一个原来在Oregon state的老师，Polasky，不知道他怎么样？如果以后找教职的话，农经旗下的 ...

印象不深了，朦胧当中貌似记得他们那边一个professor跟我说polasky是什么环境项目的领军人物。

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crossyouth 发表于 2013-5-5 08:32
印象不深了，朦胧当中貌似记得他们那边一个professor跟我说polasky是什么环境项目的领军人物。

第一次听说，看了一下简历，感觉他是个生态学家，发了那么多nature和science，难怪当选院士了。真是大贤隐于世啊！

不过身边的同学和朋友的经历告诉我，和bio沾边的专业都好难找工作啊，博士后都难找。

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halking 发表于 2013-5-5 08:42
第一次听说，看了一下简历，感觉他是个生态学家，发了那么多nature和science，难怪当选院士了。真是大贤隐 ...

Sorry that I cannot type Chinese in my office. Could you please talk about the chance for Agecon Mater student to transfer to Econ PhD program? Actually, I am not much interested in pure Agecon research, and I want to do more research in theoretical economics and econometrics. Could you give me some advice? Thanks

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zenith89 发表于 2013-5-5 09:42
Sorry that I cannot type Chinese in my office. Could you please talk about the chance for Agecon M ...

The chance is pretty high, especially the middle and below level econ departments. But even a middle level econ department can not ensure you a good research - track job (why? because candidates at that level are overly supplied and they are not differentiated enough, simple economics.), which is apparently very important since you plan on doing serious research. But most of middle level AgEcon departments and top AgEcon departments at least can ensure you a satisfied research - track job if you do well (which you will given that you are long way determined).

Another thing always bearing in mind is that, doing good empirical research is at least as difficult as good theoretical research; doing ok level empirical research is more difficult than ok level theoretical research; and lastly, there is no difference between bad empirical research and bad theoretical research, because they all do not know what they are doing. Someone may not agree with me on this comparison, but this is what I have learned from 5 year research training (not necessarily good training, but not too bad) in U.S.

Here is what I learned from someone else: good theoretical research and good empirical research are always integrated; and good researchers are always able to do both. For example, just look at the work done by Jerry Hausman, Edward Glaeser, among so many others.

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halking 发表于 2013-5-5 11:06
The chance is pretty high, especially the middle and below level econ departments. But even a midd ...

非常感谢halking大神，每次读你写的东西都收获很多，但是我个人还是倾向于经济，当初选农经也是权宜之计，middle level的经济placement真的很差吗？如果是回国教书呢？谢谢了

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zenith89 发表于 2013-5-5 11:16
非常感谢halking大神，每次读你写的东西都收获很多，但是我个人还是倾向于经济，当初选农经也是权宜之计， ...

Do not make decision regarding where you land your first job before you start your dissertation work (or your job market paper), the academia though a very small world often changes much much faster than you want and think.

If you try your everyday making that kind of decisions, or choices, or comparisons, you are just hurting your potentials and wasting your most valuable decade in your life.

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halking 发表于 2013-5-5 11:26
Do not make decision regarding where you land your first job before you start your dissertation wo ...

同意，但是对于像我一样的很多普通人来说，读master的处境比较尴尬，既面临进不了好的经济系，又面临middle or lower level就业的困难。Anyway, 借大神吉言，还是多读paper，努力学习吧。未来的事谁知道呢

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halking神最近出现的频率很高啊~~~

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zenith89 发表于 2013-5-5 11:38
同意，但是对于像我一样的很多普通人来说，读master的处境比较尴尬，既面临进不了好的经济系，又面临midd ...

If you like econometrics, you know that the best prediction for tomorrow is today. What makes you important is what you are doing today, not what you will do tomorrow.

Just do your best for today.