issue151 剑走边锋——"诡辩"communication

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6. High-speed electronic communications media, such as electronic mail and television, tend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication. 【151】高速电子通讯媒体，例如电子邮件和电视，在逐渐地抑制有意义的和有思想性的交流
。技术进步对人类社会的影响之交流
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1,communication 应该包括当前现实中的人与人的交流,和现代人与古人思想上的交流, 也就是古代作品的交流.
2, 如果,从人与人的现实交流看,是促进.
3, 如果,从后者考虑, 是阻碍.圣经.看电视.面对快速翻新的画面,使人们懒得思考,而看书,想象力,飞翔,

The speaker asserts that high-speed electronic communications media intend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication. While the speaker's assertion seems reasonable to some extent, in final analysis, I cannot wholeheartedly agree with the speaker because he(she) oversimplifies the concept of communication.

First of all, there is a necessity give a clear definition of communication. Then, communication should include two folds of meaning: (1) person-to-person communication in the real world. This kind of communication might complete in the way of face-to-face talking, chatting on phone line, writing e-mail on Internet, and so forth.  (2) Idea communication. This kind of communication possible happens striding across the distance between contemporary world and one period of history. For example, we can communicate with Aristotle by reading his thinking article.

One the one hand, if communication the speaker mentioned above belongs to the first definition, then I would strongly disagree with the speaker's claim. Because high-speed electronic communications media do not prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication, conversely, they improve the efficiency this kind of communication. In Middle Age, It takes several days to deliver a letter even if the receiver is not far away. However, now, one would receive a letter with the same content as the letter mentioned above in several minutes even if the letter is delivered from China to America. High-speed electronic communications media are just tools used to express individuals' views. Whether this communication is meaningful and thoughtful or not depends on the individual's attitude when he(she) using these tools.  If one just writes some useless words when he chooses e-mail to deliver it, if a person just concerns with the image on TV. instead of considering the stories behind these images, then highly effective communicative tools tend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication all the same. In contrast, if people express their ideas meaningfully and thoughtfully, these tools would function in boosting better communication.

On the other hand, if communication in the speaker's assertion means "idea communication" discussed above, then high-speed electronic communications media indeed intend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication. Because these high-speed communicative tools might lead to this circumstance in which people depend on tools so much as to ignore the significance of thinking. For example, recently, a plethora of education experts worried about the declining of students' writing and reading abilities, and they point out that the American students often just satisfy with visual images on television, and, they are inclined to download from the Internet when writing some things. Consider, now, when people are satisfied with those words from the Internet, when individuals spend so much time on television, they could have spent enough time reading books in which they can communicate with Aristotle, Shakespeare, and so forth. As Sarah Fielding once described (I paraphrase): on the wings of fancy, gentle readers, bear yourself into the mid-air, where by imagination you may form a large castle in which each communication always spur the spark of ideas. However, the problem is that high-speed electric communications media fail to steer individuals towards the castle.

In sum, high-speed communications media play different roles in different definitions of communication. In the field of person-to-person communication, they boost meaningful and thoughtful communication. And in the field of "idea communication", there is nothing more preventing meaningful and thoughtful communication.

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The speaker asserts that high-speed electronic communications media intend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication. While the speaker's assertion seems reasonable to some extent, in final analysis, I cannot wholeheartedly agree with the speaker because he(she) oversimplifies the concept of communication.

First of all, there is a necessity give a clear definition of communication. Then, communication should include two folds of meaning: (1) person-to-person communication in the real world. This kind of communication might complete in the way of face-to-face talking, chatting on phone line, writing e-mail on Internet, and so forth. (2) Idea communication. This kind of communication possible happens striding across the distance between contemporary world and one period of history. For example, we can communicate with Aristotle by reading his thinking article.

One the one hand, if communication the speaker mentioned above belongs to the first definition, then I would strongly disagree with the speaker's claim. Because high-speed electronic communications media do not prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication, conversely, they improve the efficiency this kind of communication. In Middle Age, It takes several days to deliver a letter even if the receiver is not far away. However, now, one would receive a letter with the same content as the letter mentioned above in several minutes even if the letter is delivered from China to America. High-speed electronic communications media are just tools used to express individuals' views. Whether this communication is meaningful and thoughtful or not depends on the individual's attitude when he(she) using these tools. If one just writes some useless words when he chooses e-mail to deliver it, if a person just concerns with the image on TV. instead of considering the stories behind these images, then highly effective communicative tools tend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication all the same. In contrast, if people express their ideas meaningfully and thoughtfully, these tools would function in boosting better communication. 这段前后矛盾，前面说 improve是正面，后面又说 just tools 是中性。

On the other hand, if communication in the speaker's assertion means "idea communication" discussed above, then high-speed electronic communications media indeed intend to prevent meaningful and thoughtful communication. Because these high-speed communicative tools might lead to this circumstance in which people depend on tools so much as to ignore the significance of thinking. For example, recently, a plethora of education experts worried about the declining of students' writing and reading abilities, and they point out that the American students often just satisfy with visual images on television, and, they are inclined to download from the Internet when writing some things. Consider, now, when people are satisfied with those words from the Internet, when individuals spend so much time on television, they could have spent enough time reading books in which they can communicate with Aristotle, Shakespeare, and so forth. As Sarah Fielding once described (I paraphrase): on the wings of fancy, gentle readers, bear yourself into the mid-air, where by imagination you may form a large castle in which each communication always spur the spark of ideas. However, the problem is that high-speed electric communications media fail to steer individuals towards the castle.重点应该是high-speed electronic communication  如何 prevent thoughtful communication,这里好象只提到了time-consuming

In sum, high-speed communications media play different roles in different definitions of communication. In the field of person-to-person communication, they boost meaningful and thoughtful communication. And in the field of "idea communication", there is nothing more preventing meaningful and thoughtful communication.
这个定义很新鲜啊，让高手门来看看可不可以 :eek:
不过我觉得第二个定义实际上就是 spiritual communication
与第一个face-to-face communication 相对应

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谢谢批改
第二段，我想说意思是，高科科技工具摆在人面前，关键看人去不去用，如果用，而不是依赖，而忽略思考，便可促进交流，实际是做了一下让步，说促进不是绝对的．

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突然有个新想法，不甘心旧这样沉了，
厚着脸皮顶一下

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对你的论点三感兴趣，所以看了一下第四段，但觉得你没有踩着点说，分析得不够深入。
你说教授对于学生写作能力的担心，我觉得这和论点无关；你说人们如果看少点电视，看少点INTERNET，就能多看点历史著作是吗？但我觉得你可以往下说的深一点，比如：历史著作的思想性很重要。电视和INTERNET 相对的浅薄性。

不过给COMMUNICATION下的定义很好，对我很有帮助，谢谢：）