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小果姑娘 发表于 2015-9-16 17:12
LZ记录到现在不容易~挺一个~一起加油~

谢谢小果姑娘
要谢谢你哈 其实我都以为没有什么人在follow up
你的留言让我有继续更贴的动力哈

阿正1218UID: 3513071

10.2-10.6
真正投简历应该也就三四天的时间 并没有争分夺秒地利用时间 还是懒懒的节奏 睡到快下午 起来懒懒的吃几口东西看几个视频或者电影（话说上礼拜因为楼主心情不佳 居然瘦到92斤，要知道原来我一般是98 吃撑了就三位数险险的人  哈哈哈哈哈哈哈）
但是这三四天差不都有保障2-5个小时每天的经历在投入 因为晚上心比较平静 所以一般弄到凌晨三四五点钟才睡

我投了应该有至少80份简历吧
-Jobsdb上面应该有70份以上（有一键投递 就提前把不同版本的求职信Cover Letter，CV上传，然后根据不同的职位性质，选择不同的材料去投递，前面一两天我都是用一个模板；后面申请Event Executive才换了一个Cover Letter，操作起来很快的）
-学校邮箱推荐的职位5-10份左右
-其他零零散散的网申系统10份左右
-寄托上（没错 寄托上也是有工作机会的）投了2份

Jobsdb和邮箱我的处理方式一般是先浏览，把中意的职位收藏
然后第二天先把前一天收藏的全部投送出去
再开始新一轮的筛选
这样还蛮有效率的
这周一才算工作日，所以两天内，我已经收到3通电话面试通知了，明天应该还会有通知的吧

其实除了当老师的职位、卖保险、全金融知识背景的职位，其他稍微能跟我的经历打点擦边球的各种助理、市场呀、运营呀、行政呀、活动策划呀之类的云云，我都申请了。挺despairing的 简直投红了眼（杀红了眼的那个“红”）
但是  没有办法
找工作这种事 其实在遇到对的那份工作之前 就跟你等一个合适的相爱的人一样
虽然你也知道自己作为大多数人中的普通一份子 总会相爱或者结婚的
但是遇到之前 你总是没有办法停止你的担心

好在工作是可控的 你多投些 你就多安心些 总是有章法 但是具体怎么样 也是要缘分的

加油吧 今天不能太晚睡 明后天都有面试（明天一个我比较。。。 后天有一个我很喜欢的 面好再来更面经）

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10.7 深夜发个求职福利 Opening Up a New Terrain - Sino-HK Enterprises Job Expo开创新天地10.7:8.pdf (772 KB, 下载次数: 14)

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10月7号8号中港企业招聘会（本周三周四）

10月7号8号中港企业招聘会（本周三周四）
11：00-17：30（最后入场时间17：00）
香港湾仔庄士敦道111号休顿室内场馆1楼（MTR湾仔站A3出口）

除了我上传的pdf文件里的职位 很多中企都会现场发布它们的工作岗位 现场接受on-site application
我明天面试结束会拐过去
大家记得提前带简历

treemantanUID: 2770681

确实不容易~~其中的细节可能大家或多或少都会碰到哈~GOOD LUCK

阿正1218UID: 3513071

10.10 今天是萌萌节诶 然而老衲已经过了这把少女心~\(≧▽≦)/~啦啦啦
我就来小结一下这个礼拜的收获
其实收获还是很大的 而且差不多确定要去哪里工作了 回头细说吧 也请大家监督 毕竟我自己一个人写 有时候真的写的挺没动力的
基本都进二面了
然后想告诉大家我还活着 就等着进入正轨 把之前落的重要部分再不上 现在在准备iang的材料

大家一定要投简历哟 不要在投简历之前提前否定自己  想去的公司全都要投~~~~~~
晚安

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加油加油，有进展真是不错呢

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继续加油~

阿正1218UID: 3513071

十月二十日  我确定拿到一个做活动的offer，这礼拜还有三个面试，加上下礼拜差不多是最后一个

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楼主加油~满满正能量呢~

阿正1218UID: 3513071

Job hunting注意事项#在这里特别提醒一下大家#

因为慢慢面经积累得多了，见过的幺蛾子也多了起来
想帮大家列个“黑名单”，如果冒犯到一些人的职业，很抱歉，don't take it in person
如果刚开始找工作的小白可能会被JD或者公司的外观迷惑的

香港的几家金融产品（保险）公司：
AIA
AXA
英国保诚
FWD富卫
GET 智易东方
如果你不想卖保险，也不想走上相关的路，就不要投这些公司的简历，他们有很多方式抓取你的眼球
Management Trainee，Marketing呀各种，有的公司还会很有心地用中文，highlight IANG 内地背景优先考虑，我就给大家提个醒。
怎么样甄别这家公司到底是不是最终又把你忽悠到卖保险，就是观察它发的post，如果它永远都是高频招聘同一个或者相似的职位，以及它用的图片呀，你就要留个心眼，楼主刚来香港时，其实也不是很懂，但是看多了（自己也被吸引过参加过他们的模拟演练，他们把tier one三家大学的校友学长学姐都请出来，增加粘度，但是做的事情本质是什么，大家心里要清楚，如果你已经很清楚你在做什么，那go ahead，我写这个贴，只是怕不了解的同学走上了他们不希望走的路）

其实因为自己了解心理咨询的一些技巧，同理放在和人的沟通上，一些洗脑的行为我会非常敏感且反感
很不幸也很万幸的是，今天我确认了之前做event的那个公司其实有“诈骗”的嫌疑，他们培训和例会的方式实在太洗脑太传销模式了，今天我和一个美国朋友讨论问题的时候，我们仔细地查了网上的评论，真的确认我之前的顾虑，虽然说出来很丢脸（居然会在若干轮面试之后被他们选中），但是我也想给大家提个醒，就像下面写下这个博文的博主，她很感谢正是前人的comment让她发现在这个公司包装的方式之外的公司真正的内幕，她分享了她在Appco面试的经历。
我就把它quote在这里，希望大家留个心眼~
http://appcogroupscam.blogspot.h ... erience-wappco.html
Thursday, December 4, 2014
My Interview Experience w/Appco
I went on an interview today for the Appco group that recently opened an office here in San Diego, CA. I don't know why, call it a gut instinct, but I thought that something was off. I did my research last night and found some negative comments on glassdoor.com but decided to check it out anyway. I was also concerned when I read on their website that they coined the term "human commercial"....which sounds like a clever way of saying "door to door sales".

I got sucked into one of these things direct marketing, pyramid schemes （金字塔架构——一般是传销组织的经典架构）back when I was 18. They had me driving all over the state of Texas, selling knock of perfume out of my car. We worked 12 hour days, 6 days a week, had to pay for our hotels, gas, etc and we made about $3 per bottle sold. I made "rhino" my first week there which meant that I was the top new salesperson and earned myself a $300 bonus and the opportunity to hang out with the boss on his boat on Saturday instead of working in the field. When it came to asking for that money, they told me that I needed to tell them what the money was for and that they would write a check to pay the bill. I was young and naive, so it took me about a month to finally get the hell out of there.

Fast-forward to now, a decade later, feeling nostalgic（似曾相识） with the Appco interview process...it was just too familiar. When I walked into the office, there were several other people already waiting for an interview. The receptionist had me fill out a paper application. These were the first two red flags. Any respectable sales company isn't going to have that many people show up at once for the same job or have you fill out a paper application. A distinguished company will ask for your resume. Period. While I was in the waiting area, the receptionists started conversation with me, they were both very nice. But it seemed fake to me. The office was playing upbeat pop music and, at one point, one of the employees made a statement to Cynthia (one of the receptionists) that he was surprised she wasn't singing. (Later, I wondered if it was actually a hint that she should be singing and wasn't creating the atmosphere he wanted.) There was a TV on that displayed pictures of team members with awards or giant checks. All of the team members were very young which, again, reminded me of the perfume selling gig...preying on young kids who didn't know better. I also noticed that the color red was everywhere. The color red is (according to studies) associated with ideas of excitement and youth.

Then, I met Chris, a well-dressed chap from the UK who spoke quickly. The interview was a whirlwind and I felt myself speaking quickly to mirror him. It reminded me of those sales people who talk so fast that they play a Jedi-mind trick on you and next thing you know, you spent your life's savings on a product that you don't really know how to work. He asked me several questions about how confident I was and how I would rate my communication skills and then invited me back for an "observation day" the very next day and that he was going to put me with "one of (his) best sales managers". He told me to come in at 11:30 and that he would need me "all day". I agreed, because it happened so fast that I didn’t have time to think. But, the second I left the office I thought...what kind of respectable company would ask me to spend my whole day with them without even giving me an opportunity to interview him and ask questions about the company before spending my valuable time with them? Also, what does "all day" mean? 5 pm? 6 pm? The ambiguity made me even more suspicious.

I have worked in sales before and I am really good at it, so for me to spend a day working "in the field" for a company as an interview without getting paid and without them offering to answer any of my questions seems pretty shady to me. My time is valuable, sorry. Then, I thought about how he didn't refer to his "best sales manager" by name. I bet all of the sales managers are his "best". Then I thought about how fast he talked, how little he smiled and how impersonal he was. It was clear to me that he spoke to many people every day like this. The closer I got to my car, the more I felt like I was interview-raped (which is a term I just came up with because it is the best way I can describe how I felt when I left). Then, I decided to do some more digging....I found too much evidence that this was a huge scam. I found blog after blog and webstie after website talking about the cult-like nature of this firm and how many times they have changed their name and moved offices. For every 20 negative comments, I found one post that was positive, not a very good ratio. And, the few positive ones that I read seemed to me like they were young and naively bought into the scam.

When I added it all up, I realized that I WAS Jedi-mind fucked! The color red (very smart), the hip music, the nice people, the fast talking, the working interview after just 10 minutes of talking, etc. etc. It doesn't matter how many bows you put on it or how much air freshener you spray, shit is shit is shit. Wrap it up in nice wrapping paper and have good looking people tell you it’s great, but you are still buying a load of shit.

I then looked for the card he gave me which did not have his name or contact email on it, it was more like a doctor's appointment card. It was apparent that none of the people in the waiting room were customers. And, I didn't see anyone who was dressed like a doctor so I assume that none of them were patients either. So, the fact that they had appointment cards proved to me that they were in the business of hiring people and inviting them to working interviews daily. Can't believe I almost let myself get sucked into that. I emailed the receptionist who originally contacted me to set up the interview, telling her that, after careful consideration, I had to decline the offer.

I was so thankful for the many people who took to blogs to express their disgust and dismay with the company that I had to do it myself. I am thankful that I didn't waste my "whole day" with these Jedi shit sellers. If you want to read more about Appco and the many names they do business under, just type in "appco scam" or "cobra scam". The best site that I found was thedevilcorp.wordpress.com.

I hope this helps someone else!

#appco #appcogroup #cobragroup #cultlikesales

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10月28日 2015

今天不太差
1. 接到下周浸会大学一个行政职位的面试和笔试的通知（我真的做梦也没想到，我都快放弃了！！！！）虽然我知道我十有八九都是炮灰，但是这是我正式在官网找到信息投之后可以面试的机会，之前HKUST的广东话电话面试就被KO了，港大的RA其实是内推的形式，不是官网po出来的，所以我很开心。Anyway，我还是要尽力去准备，炮灰就炮灰吧
（有用信息就是 我是10.13号投的，今天28号，所以隔了半个月，还没确定工作的伙伴们一定要沉得住气啊！！！！你要想，我们这么多年，来香港读研，包括之前四年多少都是怀揣着梦想的，不要被几天或者十几天的沮丧击垮，我尽可能给自己争取多一点时间，至少我应该尽力去争取一下，对吧？
说个题外话，虽然我也快弹尽粮绝了，最近真的比较省，都开始自己煮饭煮面了，反正找工作时间还是比较多的，我觉得越是浮躁的风气，我们越应该静下来，想清楚自己究竟是为了什么而来香港，不是让你太picky，但是，我们好歹要活得有自己的风格 是不╭(╯^╰)╮我想 多年以后 我会感谢自己这段省钱，让自己更多一点时间争取自己喜欢的、认可公司价值的工作机会的努力 btw 弹药充足的同志们就完全可以跳过这段哈 楼主主要是不想给爸妈伸手 加上存款有限 所以只好悠着点花 但是必要的开销呀朋友来找呀 也还是继续进行 只是自己给自己要求 尽可能地省着花）

2. 我有另一个确定的做行政的offer，在铜锣湾，是一个化妆品公司里头的operation（这回不是什么洗脑组织了哈），我想到自己如果真的要以这样的方式留在香港，我就失眠了。先当做保底吧，当然我知道我最终还是会拒绝它的，主要是一面我的那位女士，真的对我太nice了，容忍我一次次的on duty extend，所以，我希望有机会当面感谢她，即使我要拒掉它

3. 另外一个投资者关系助理的final interview通知要进行 却一直迟迟还没进行……算了，继续投向大批职位的疯狂submit状态吧

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athenabuaa 发表于 2015-10-26 12:16
楼主加油~满满正能量呢~

谢谢你的鼓励！！！

kurataUID: 2705897

看着楼主的文字，就觉得找工作好累好累。楼主加油

午后红茶210UID: 3457440

楼主是本科一毕业就去读研了吗 还是有工作经历？

小busyUID: 3095918

不知道楼主最后何去何从了