issue43领导者必须保持最高伦理道德修养吗？大家帮忙看看哈。可以互改嘛

flyingwindUID: 189320

Issue43  
------题目------
To be an effective leader, a public official must maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.
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Must a public official maintain the highest ethical and moral standards to be an effective leader, as the speaker claimed? In my point of view, though a public official should follow ethical and moral standard to some extent and even in most cases they should do further than common people, it is needless and even impossible for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.

To begin with, how a public official can be called an effective leader? The speaker unfairly contends that the highest ethical and moral standards are the threshold for a public official to be effective. Generally speaking, it is necessary to draw a distinction between effective leadership with ethical and moral standards. The former is closely related with the public affairs under an official by the control of regulation, laws, and so on; the latter involves the realm of thinking and spirits, which vary form party to party, nation to nation, time to time. A public official owning the highest ethical and moral standards in his stand accomplish nothing to do with his/her effective leadership in itself. The first and foremost thing for a official is to take the responsibility of what the leadership endow him/her to make the profits or merit for the people entitle him/her. Suppose a public official is prudential in everything following the highest ethical and moral standards as he/her expect. Maybe he/she can be an ethical and moral defender more than a public servant. And also over care of maintaining the ethical and moral standards might definitely inhibit a public official from devoting her/his time and energy to the public service. For that matter, he/she is not qualified to be an effective leader.

In addition, a public official in nature is common people whatever he/she is a president of a country or a governor of a state. They live the lives as our common, they take the similar education as us and they do the routine stuff as the general people everyday. It is unfair to assume that they are flawless people always on the right perspective. As human nature public officials have the same foibles which may inherent connected with human as a spice in the nature. They have fear, selfishness, greed and so forth which we are share. Finding a public official maintaining the highest ethical and moral standard means find no man to take the duty of public servants. For example, Bill Clinton's sexual scandal in White House undoubtedly betrayed the ethical and moral standards. Nevertheless, he was still justified effectively so as in the responsibility he took to be a president.

Admittedly, it does not follow that a public official can leave alone ethical and moral standards. Psychologically, public people are likely to expect their officials be unimpeachable in the realm of ethic and moral. This reflects the mentation to the extent that the public masses expect their leader own higher ethical and moral standard than them. For one thing, the mass might doubt the capability of a public official to be a leader when he/she obviates ethical and moral standards despite of which is not involved in public service. For another, failing to keep higher ethical and moral standards might lose the psychological power and confidence which are mostly important for a plan or policy to be effectively conducted by the mass.

To sum up, it is not realistic for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards, for the highest ethical and moral standards are not crucial to be an effective leader and men's nature determines that everyone including public official has ones own foibles. Nevertheless, to make his/her leadership effectively conducted, a public official should not run country to the ethical and moral standards

victoriazhizhiUID: 163135

Must a public official maintain the highest ethical and moral standards to be an effective leader, as the speaker claimed? Infrom my point of view, though a public official should follow ethical and moral standard to some extent and even in most cases they should do further thando further than?别扭 是说要比普通人做的好要求高吧 common people, it is needless and even impossible for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.

To begin with, how a public official can be called an effective leader?这句不地道 The speaker unfairly contends that the highest ethical and moral standards are the threshold for a public official to be effective. Generally speaking, it is necessary to draw a distinction between effective leadership with ethical and moral standards. The former is closely related with the public affairs under an official by the control of regulation, laws, and so on; the latter involves the realm of thinking and spirits, which vary form party to party, nation to nation, time to time. A public official owning the highest ethical and moral standards in his stand accomplish nothing to do with his/her effective leadership in itself.nothing?太绝对了吧 The first and foremost 重复，去了first即可thing for a official is to take the responsibility of what the leadership endow him/her to make the profits or merit for the people entitle entitle的主语是？这里有语病吧him/her. Suppose a public official is prudential in everything following the highest ethical and moral standards as he/her expect. Maybe he/she can be an ethical and moral defender more than a public servant. And also over care of maintaining the ethical and moral standards might definitely inhibit a public official from devoting her/his time and energy to the public service. For that matter, he/she is not qualified to be an effective leader.这段论证的不具有说服力，你是想说moral并不是effective的来源和必须条件，但是一开始却说它们是有区别的，显然他们是两个范畴的，要说的是effective是表现在哪里，比如经济增长，社会安定，人民幸福等等，而这些的决定因素不是moral，而是尽职尽责，工作高效可行等等，你却很快的带过了。然后却说了要是坚持最高的道德标准就会抑制effective，why?分散精力？这些不够严谨

In addition, a public official in nature is common people whatever he/she is a president of a country or a governor of a state. They live the lives as our common, they take the similar education as us and they do the routine stuff as the general people everyday. It is unfair to assume that they are flawless people always on the right perspective. As human nature public officials have the same foibles which may inherent connected with human as a spice in the nature. They have fear, selfishness, greed and so forth which we are share.因为是正常人就有自私，贪婪等，既然成为了领导，必须要有区别普通人的地方，道德上也更要高标准，要是自私，贪婪怎么可以做领导？这里不严谨，而且你开头说过了要比正常人做的好 Finding a public official maintaining the highest ethical and moral standard means find no man to take the duty of public servants.why?这里又有漏洞 For example, Bill Clinton's sexual scandal in White House undoubtedly betrayed the ethical and moral standards. Nevertheless, he was still justified effectively so as in the responsibility he took to be a president.最好说明克林顿在政时期经济发展很好，有国际上专家曾说是美国建国以来经济增长持续最长的周期，还有人民安居乐业，这是effective的表现。这段是想说领导也是正常人，所以同样会犯错，但是我觉得还是有些单薄，而且这个理由也不够充足

Admittedly, it does not follow that a public official can leave alone ethical and moral standards. Psychologically, public people are likely to expect their officials be unimpeachable in the realm of ethic and moral. This reflects the mentation to the extent that the public masses expect their leader own higher ethical and moral standard than them. For one thing, the mass might doubt the capability of a public official to be a leader when he/she obviates ethical and moral standards despite of 有despite of的用法么？which is not involved in public service. For another, failing to keep higher ethical and moral standards might lose the psychological power and confidence which are mostly important for a plan or policy to be effectively conducted by the mass.这段看的不太懂，admittedly的东西和后面的似乎不太一致

To sum up, it is not realistic for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards, for the highest ethical and moral standards are not crucial to be an effective leader and men's nature determines that everyone including public official has ones own foibles. Nevertheless, to make his/her leadership effectively conducted, a public official should not run country to the ethical and moral standards最后一句和题目扣的不紧，而且读着有些别扭

总的来说，我觉得论证的过程有一些不严谨的地方，而且B2要说effective的时候说的很简略，那个是你要说明effective和moral的关系的，也是破题的地方。我觉得应该解释一下的。另外B3我觉得理由不够充足。个人意见，我也刚开始，有很多问题，一起进步哈

flyingwindUID: 189320

谢谢victoriazhizhi

effective是表现在哪里，比如经济增长，社会安定，人民幸福等等，而这些的决定因素不是moral，而是尽职尽责，工作高效可行等等，你却很快的带过了
也许多说一下effective是表现在哪里，和强调道德作个对比
其实我讲了的：“take the responsibility of what the leadership endow him/her to make the profits or merit for the people entitle entitle的主语是？这里有语病吧him/her”应为“比如经济增长，社会安定，人民幸福等等”可能总结的不好，所以说了类似“做了该做的事情”的万无一失的话。

然后却说了要是坚持最高的道德标准就会抑制effective，why?分散精力？这些不够严谨
要坚持最高，这里最高有点下人哦。处处小心（最高标准嘛），或许还要经常学习提高呢。要分散正事吧
说的过去吧？个人感觉


因为是正常人就有自私，贪婪等，既然成为了领导，必须要有区别普通人的地方，道德上也更要高标准，要是自私，贪婪怎么可以做领导？这里不严谨，而且你开头说过了要比正常人做的好

我开头说了要比正常人做的好
不是说不犯错误。正常人可能多一点，作为领导人可能要少犯点。类似7情6欲之类的。还是说的通吧
不知你认为呢？

The first and foremost 重复，去了first即可thing
这里有问题，换个adj， first and foremost是adv

有despite of的用法么？ despite of介词提到从句which前,可以吧？有没语法好的朋友来说说看？

最后一句和题目扣的不紧，而且读着有些别扭

呵呵，说的对！写到后面写疲了

阿霏UID: 173997

"For one thing, the mass might doubt the capability of a public official to be a leader when he/she obviates ethical and moral standards ......"

dispite it is not  involved in public service?我个人感觉不用从句还顺畅一些.

flyingwindUID: 189320

接受！呵呵

LSDUID: 157855

Issue43
------题目------
To be an effective leader, a public official must maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.
------正文------
Must a public official maintain the highest ethical and moral standards to be an effective leader, as the speaker claimed? In my point of view, though a public official should follow ethical and moral standard to some extent and even in most cases they should do further than common people, it is needless and even impossible for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.[呵呵，开头不错啊，比以前好多了]

[To begin with, how a public official can be called an effective leader? The speaker unfairly contends that the highest ethical and moral standards are the threshold for a public official to be effective.] Generally speaking, it is necessary to draw a distinction between effective leadership with ethical and moral standards.[这两个比较的主体看起来不太合适哦，我觉得应该强调政治家的ethical and moral standards与普通人的不同更好一些把] The former is closely related with the public affairs under an official by the control of regulation, laws, and so on; the latter involves the realm of thinking and spirits, which vary form party to party, nation to nation, time to time[？？这句看得有点晕]. A public official owning the highest ethical and moral standards in his stand accomplish nothing to do with his/her effective leadership in itself.[有点绝对了把] The first and foremost thing for a official is to take the responsibility of what the leadership endow him/her to make the profits or merit for the people entitle him/her. Suppose a public official is prudential in everything following the highest ethical and moral standards as he/her expect.[有很高的道德标准并不意味着不能很好地行使自己的权力阿，其实在打击犯罪分子的时候，领导人很多都是带着崇高的精神同时严格行使自己权力的] Maybe he/she can be an ethical and moral defender more than a public servant. And also over care of maintaining the ethical and moral standards might definitely inhibit a public official from devoting her/his time and energy to the public service. For that matter, he/she is not qualified to be an effective leader.

In addition, [a public official in nature is common people whatever he/she is a president of a country or a governor of a state.] They live the lives as our common[populace], they take the similar education as us and they do the routine stuff as the general people everyday. It is unfair to assume that they are flawless people always on the right perspective. As human nature public officials have the same foibles which may inherent connected with human as a spice in the nature. They have fear, selfishness, greed and so forth which we are share. Finding a public official maintaining the highest ethical and moral standard means find no man to take the duty of public servants. For example, Bill Clinton's sexual scandal in White House undoubtedly betrayed the ethical and moral standards. Nevertheless, he was still justified effectively so as in the responsibility he took to be a president.[建议后面再来点分析，顺便做个总结]

Admittedly, [it does not follow that a public official can leave alone[？？] ethical and moral standards.] Psychologically, public people[figures] are likely to expect their officials be unimpeachable in the realm of ethic and moral. This reflects the mentation to the extent that the public masses expect their leader own higher ethical and moral standard than them. For one thing, the mass might doubt the capability of a public official to be a leader when he/she obviates ethical and moral standards despite of which is not involved in public service. For another, failing to keep higher ethical and moral standards might lose the psychological power and confidence which are mostly important for a plan or policy to be effectively conducted by the mass.[这段讲了外在因素是领导人必须保持一定的道德标准，恩，观点可以接受，但是论证没有什么说服力阿，感觉仅仅是楼主自己的推测]

To sum up, it is not realistic for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards, for the highest ethical and moral standards are not crucial to be an effective leader and men's nature determines that everyone including public official has ones own foibles. Nevertheless, to make his/her leadership effectively conducted, a public official should not run country to the ethical and moral standards
[个人感觉这个论点从正面说要好写一点，大正小负，因为例子比较多，可以让论证看起来丰满些]
[楼主加油！！]

LSDUID: 157855

呵呵，这篇我以前写过呢，不过感觉写得不太好，给楼主参考一下:p
https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?threadid=244058

flyingwindUID: 189320

呵呵，开头不错啊，比以前好多了
谢谢哈，简洁就是美啊

这两个比较的主体看起来不太合适哦，我觉得应该强调政治家的ethical and moral standards与普通人的不同更好一些把
是有点问题，该是“拥有。。标准”和“有效的leadership”

A public official owning the highest ethical and moral standards in his stand accomplish nothing to do with his/her effective leadership in itself.有点绝对了把
这里我想说in itself没有啥关系。哎！觉得一个败类也能在某件领导工作上做的很好哦，呵呵我乱说的

有很高的道德标准并不意味着不能很好地行使自己的权力阿，其实在打击犯罪分子的时候，领导人很多都是带着崇高的精神同时严格行使自己权力的
这里我觉得“最高”很不容易哦，也许要处处小心。。自己也受限制，反而影响当机立段，若是大目标与道德伦理有冲突，也许领导就so so了；影响了leadship；不知道有没有道理。

建议后面再来点分析，顺便做个总结
nod   ！

这段讲了外在因素是领导人必须保持一定的道德标准，恩，观点可以接受，但是论证没有什么说服力阿，感觉仅仅是楼主自己的推测
写的。。。。想结束了。呵呵

楼主加油！！
谢谢！一起进步！互相学习！

BTW  你的argu我改了，有改的不对的地方多包涵啊！

haiyaUID: 187989

Issue43
------题目------
To be an effective leader, a public official must maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.
------正文------
Must a public official maintain the highest ethical and moral standards to be an effective leader, as the speaker claimed? In my point of view, though a public official should follow ethical and moral standard to some extent and even in most cases they should do further than common people, it is needless and even impossible for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards.

To begin with, how a public official can be called an effective leader? The speaker unfairly contends that the highest ethical and moral standards are the threshold for a public official to be effective. Generally speaking, it is necessary to draw a distinction between effective leadership with ethical and moral standards. The former is closely related with the public affairs under an official by the control of regulation, laws, and so on; the latter involves the realm of thinking and spirits, which vary form party to party, nation to nation, time to time. 自己定个义，不错，但我觉得对于ethical和moral standards的有点中性了，是不是要倾向褒义呢？A public official owning the highest ethical and moral standards in his stand accomplish nothing to do with his/her effective leadership in itself. The first and foremost thing for a official is to take the responsibility of what the leadership endow him/her to make the profits or merit for the people entitle him/her. Suppose a public official is prudential in everything following the highest ethical and moral standards as he/her expect. Maybe he/she can be an ethical and moral defender more than a public servant. And also over care of maintaining the ethical and moral standards might definitely inhibit a public official from devoting her/his time and energy to the public service. For that matter, he/she is not qualified to be an effective leader.

In addition, a public official in nature is common people whatever he/she is a president of a country or a governor of a state. They live the lives as our common, they take the similar education as us and they do the routine stuff as the general people everyday. It is unfair to assume that they are flawless people always on the right perspective. As human nature public officials have the same foibles which may inherent connected with human as a spice in the nature. They have fear, selfishness, greed and so forth which we are去掉 share. Finding a public official maintaining the highest ethical and moral standard means find no man to take the duty of public servants. For example, Bill Clinton's sexual scandal in White House undoubtedly betrayed the ethical and moral standards. Nevertheless, he was still justified effectively so as in the responsibility he took to be a president.

Admittedly, it does not follow that a public official can leave alone ethical and moral standards. Psychologically, public people are likely to expect their officials be unimpeachable in the realm of ethic and moral. This reflects the mentation to the extent that the public masses expect their leader own higher ethical and moral standard than them. For one thing, the mass might doubt the capability of a public official to be a leader when he/she obviates ethical and moral standards despite of which is not involved in public service. For another, failing to keep higher ethical and moral standards might lose the psychological power and confidence which are mostly important for a plan or policy to be effectively conducted by the mass.

To sum up, it is not realistic for a public official to maintain the highest ethical and moral standards, for the highest ethical and moral standards are not crucial to be an effective leader and men's nature determines that everyone including public official has ones own foibles. Nevertheless, to make his/her leadership effectively conducted, a public official should not run country to the ethical and moral standards
看得挺舒服的，很连贯。：）
展开的也挺到位的

lunaticUID: 150745

in spite of / despite 永远介词，不能直接跟句子
没有despite of，韦氏字典里可以查到in despite of 意思与in spite of 一样

flyingwindUID: 189320

谢谢haiya和lunatic! 很久没写文章了,过年去了.

haiya加油!一定可以考高分!