Issue 153 怀疑的问题.超高频，有提纲。大家互评嘛！

jaojieUID: 195494

也算是超高频了，不知道是不是写得太简单，这两天总有这种趋势：（

有保留的赞同。
对于个人，更主动，帮助理解他们所学，更有效；
对社会，很多时候可发现不好，有新发现可改进，如科学和政治领域；
但也承认，怀疑应适度。

Issue153: 425words  45 minutes
Students should bring a certain skepticism to whatever they study. They should question what they are taught instead of accepting it passively.

In this statement, the speaker suggests that a certain skepticism should be brought in  to whatever students  study rather than just take what they have learned passively. As far as I am concerned,  although I contend that the skepticism should not be exaggerated, I strongly agree with the suggestion for several reasons.

Firstly, with skepticism students could learn  and understand the knowledge better than just passively accept it. For instance,  if a student feels skeptical to what he has learned, it may mean he has really think about that problem carefully. Only when  he is thinking, can he raise the question of what has learned.  If students just absorb the knowledge in passively, they can not have question cause they don’t  reflect the problem. Also, the skepticism leads students to do more experiments, observe  more phenomenon to substantiate what they doubt. This process can help students to understand the knowledge by their own efforts.  Thus this skepticism help the students to learn effectively and comprehensive what they have been taught .

Secondly,  the skepticism can sometimes uncover problematic issues and   give rise to innovations and improvement. In the realm of scientific, for example, the Copernicus challenged the Galileo's  heliocentric theory , proposed the geocentric theory which brought about big influence on the scientific area. Also ,the Galileo broke the Aristotle's authority by proving that objects of different height in fact fall down at the same speed. In the political area, the law is often questioned by doubting its fairness and effectiveness, and then some laws will be revised to be better than before.  Again, the disadvantages of political systems is also  questioned by people and then it brings about some innovations. So the skepticism can be  a powerful force to propel the progress of society .

Yet, I must advocate that the skepticism should not go  extreme. Certain skepticism is good  ,but over-skepticism will be harmful. Like  Socrates'  opinion that everything should be appropriate. For example, if we doubt everything without classification, then there is no foundation on which we could base our skepticism, as everything is dubious. Also, too much problems may just affect the teaching as no knowledge can be accepted by students as right ones.

In sum, student should make a habit of being skeptical to what they learned ,which can not only beneficial to themselves as they can learn better but also is a positive force to improve the society by bringing about innovations. But at the same time ,we should aware of the detrimental influence  if we keep skepticism inappropriately.

或者大家有什么其他思路一起讨论吧。

will_foreverUID: 193568

也算是超高频了，不知道是不是写得太简单，这两天总有这种趋势：（

有保留的赞同。
对于个人，更主动，帮助理解他们所学，更有效；
对社会，很多时候可发现不好，有新发现可改进，如科学和政治领域；
但也承认，怀疑应适度。

Issue153: 425words 45 minutes
Students should bring a certain skepticism to whatever they study. They should question what they are taught instead of accepting it passively.

In this statement, the speaker suggests that a certain skepticism should be brought into whatever students study rather than just take what they have learned passively. As far as I am concerned, although I contend that the skepticism should not be exaggerated, I strongly agree with the suggestion for several reasons.

Firstly, with skepticism students could learn and understand the knowledge better than just passively accept it. For instance, if a student feels skeptical to what he has learned, it may mean he has really think about that problem carefully. Only when he is thinking, can he raise the question of what has learned. If students just absorb the knowledge in不要 passively, they can not have question cause they don’t reflect the problem. Also, the skepticism leads students to do more experiments, observe more phenomenon to substantiate what they doubt. This process can help students to understand the knowledge by their own efforts. Thus this skepticism help the students to learn effectively and comprehensive what they have been taught .
（这一段论证的倒是和ts息息相关，不错！）

Secondly, the skepticism can sometimes uncover problematic issues and give rise to innovations and improvement. In the realm of scientific, for example, the Copernicus challenged the Galileo's heliocentric theory , proposed the geocentric theory which brought about big influence on the scientific area. Also ,the Galileo broke the Aristotle's authority by proving that objects of different height（weights） in fact fall down at the same speed. In the political area, the law is often questioned by doubting its fairness and effectiveness, and then some laws will be revised to be better than before. Again, the disadvantages of political systems is also questioned by people and then it brings about some innovations. So the skepticism can be a powerful force to propel the progress of society .
（在law的例子中应该更具体点说清楚skepticism是怎样促进进步的，被人们置疑就一定会产生innovation吗？）

Yet, I must advocate that the skepticism should not go extreme. Certain skepticism is good ,but over-skepticism will be harmful. Like Socrates' opinion that everything should be appropriate. For example, if we doubt everything without classification, then there is no foundation on which we could base our skepticism, as everything is dubious. Also, too much problems may just affect the teaching as no knowledge can be accepted by students as right ones.
（那么我们应该采取怎样的态度去面对呢，怎样才能不走极端呢）

In sum, student should make a habit of being skeptical to what they learned ,which can not only beneficial to themselves as they can learn better but also is a positive force to improve the society by bringing about innovations. But at the same time ,we should aware of the detrimental influence if we keep skepticism inappropriately.

或者大家有什么其他思路一起讨论吧。

jaojieUID: 195494

这样写没什么大问题吧，这两天总怀疑自己：）
谢了，砖明再使劲回砸：）

zhangqiang928UID: 188538

中午给你贴出来



这是我的你也看看吧
https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251898

flyfish9UID: 156664

Students should bring a certain skepticism to whatever they study. They should question what they are taught instead of accepting it passively.

In this statement, the speaker suggests that a certain skepticism should be brought in to whatever students study rather than just take what they have learned passively. As far as I am concerned, although I contend that the skepticism should not be exaggerated, I strongly agree with the suggestion for several reasons.

Firstly, with skepticism students could learn and understand the knowledge better than just passively accept it. For instance, if a student feels skeptical to what he has learned, it may mean he has really think about that problem carefully. Only when he is thinking, can he raise the question of what has learned. If students just absorb the knowledge in passively, they can not have question cause they don’t reflect the problem. Also, the skepticism leads students to do more experiments, observe more phenomenon to substantiate what they doubt. This process can help students to understand the knowledge by their own efforts. Thus this skepticism helphelps the students to learn effectively and comprehensive what they have been taught .

Secondly, the skepticism can sometimes uncover problematic issues and give rise to innovations and improvement. In the realm of scientific, for example, the Copernicus challenged the Galileo's heliocentric theory 哥白尼挑战伽利略的日心说？这都哪跟哪啊？Ptolemaic(托勒密）提出了地心说，哥白尼挑战之，伽利略是哥白尼的supporter, proposed the geocentric theory which brought about big influence on the scientific area. Also ,the Galileo broke the Aristotle's authority by proving that objects of different height in fact fall down at the same speed. In the political area, the law is often questioned by doubting its fairness and effectiveness, and then some laws will be revised to be better than before. Again, the disadvantages of political systems is also questioned by people and then it brings about some innovations. So the skepticism can be a powerful force to propel the progress of society .

Yet, I must advocate that the skepticism should not go extreme. Certain skepticism is good ,but over-skepticism will be harmful. Like Socrates' opinion that everything should be appropriate.这句最好能给出名言 For example, if we doubt everything without classification, then there is no foundation on which we could base our skepticism, as everything is dubious. Also, too much problems may just affect the teaching as no knowledge can be accepted by students as right ones.

In sum, student should make a habit of being skeptical to what they learned ,which can not only beneficial to themselves as they can learn better but also is a positive force to improve the society by bringing about innovations. But at the same time ,we should aware of the detrimental influence if we keep skepticism inappropriately.

看来你也是主要从讨论怀疑重要性的角度来论述的，我也刚写了这一篇：http://edu.gter.net/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251981

flyfish9UID: 156664

感觉我们从学生的角度论述得都不够，尤其是我更是如此，不知道是否算偏题？

jaojieUID: 195494

哦,这么多, 那明天一起砸:)

DriverEntryUID: 143979

注意下发贴格式。ISSUE和后面的数字之间不要有空格。谢谢

thinking in GTUID: 195028

中午回来看哈，占个座

jaojieUID: 195494

哦, 下次一定注意:)

chenh1207UID: 182826

issue185 同主题写作, 感觉不错, 急切希望大家来拍  jaojie
重新写了篇issue 185,因为感觉自己原来那篇真是太差了，尤其是得到大家讨论和斑竹的启发后，便冲动重写了一篇。这次感觉好了很多，45分钟变长了，思路写清晰了不少，第一次限时写了这么多字。真希望考试就碰到这篇：) 呵呵，不过还要看斑竹和寄友们的评判，是不是有提高。　不盛感激，－－－－－－－－。挥拍原则不变。快来砸吧！快考了，急切希望斑竹与寄友们提出建议与批评：）

Issue185:72０words 45 minutes
Scandals—whether in politics, academia, or other areas—can be useful. They focus our attention on problem that no speaker and reformer ever could.

Can the scandals be useful that they focus our attention on problems in ways that no speaker or reformer ever could? As far as I am concerned , if we merely focus on the effectiveness that the attention the scandals can call[这句话没看懂] , not to consider whether its[their] consequence will be good nor[or] not ,I strongly[换成some people，因为继续使用I 的话，开头的转折过多，更不用说自己观点的变化了] agree with the conclusion, [;]but since we can hardly justify[ignore] the usefulness of one thing regardless of its good or bad result, I contend that the[the可以不用] scandals can be a two-edged sword .

To begin with, as to the attention called by the scandals, it is primarily[primary] for three reasons why scandals are useful that the reformer and speaker can not ever could.[预示本段结构] Firstly, it has something to do with the human nature, as we[,] all human beings[,] has[have] curiosity about other people's lives[privacy], love[favor] to pry into other person's affairs, especially the not so good ones,[and] even may be a little happy to find that the person[who] we like or admire may have the disadvantages or disgrace too. And we like to hear things that may be a little startling so that[they're] interesting. Secondly, the mass media plays a vital important part in drawing the public's attention to the scandals and sometimes foster the public's habit of prying. With the development of technology, like the arise[spread] of the radio, TV ,internet and so on, these things all greatly improve[d] the wideness and speed of distributing the scandals. Also, the mass media are almost run by corporations ,whose goal is [are]to pursue the maximum profit, so the mass media will use every opportunity to draw the attention to make profit through reporting scandals in that they found the human nature mentioned above. Thirdly , some of the scandals make people shocked, the problems that scandals reveals may be severe , then the attention will be widely called .[缺少连词]
[这段的第一个例子应加以总结，即can satisfy the desire of….,第二，三个例子跟TS的关系不大，并且没有阐明why scandals are useful that the reformer and speaker can not ever could]
However, whether the scandals can useful from the aspect of the benefits or detriments they bring about is not so absolute. This kind of usefulness defined as beneficial or detrimental largely depends on the situations how people react to scandals after they have been drawn attention to them. If people can strive the way out to solve the problems when facing scandals, then the whole society can be improved a lot . For instance, in the realm of politic, the first president of the USA who was resigned is Richard Nixon, his scandal----the Watergate scandal, greatly provoked the anger of his people because he abused his right which may contempt the constitution to some extent and harmed the interests of the people. This scandal drove people to think the abuse of power and the revision of the law ,which indicate that no one can beyond the law and public's interests ,even the president. Similarly, in the area of the economic, the Enron scandal ,which is regard as one of the most prosperous corporations, broke down suddenly because of its problematic method of accounting . This incident then lead to the revision of the law concerning the accounting method which are much better than before. Nevertheless, if we just slip the scandals over after we concerned them or leave it as topics of gossip, then no benefits can be brought about., even, this behavior may be harmful to our society. We do not seek the method to solve the problems the scandals reflect, but just talk about them, then the citizenry may become very superficial , and our attention has been draw from the more important issues, like the famine, starve, education , crime and so on . If that happens, then the speaker and reformer compared may be more useful to give rise to advance of our society.
[开头作者的观点是two-edged sword是个折中的观点，即应分别阐释正面和负面，而作者却用大部分篇幅进行正面描述，可能有点，呵呵！
另外，我个人认为本段完全可以展开写，即从正反俩方面论证，即depend on the specific of the issue. To the extent A，it ….   To the extent B,it…..]
In conclusion, the scandals can be effective when calling attention of public for three reasons listed above, if we just define usefulness narrowly as this kind of effectiveness . But if we refers to the usefulness as beneficial , the answer is different. The scandal can be useful if we focus on solving the problems reflected by scandals , otherwise they are not useful or even harmful to society. So we should be aware of making use of scandals , maybe through education and with the help of mass media to lead people on the right track.
[总体来说，你的过渡句用的不错，但我个人认为语言有些罗嗦，尤其是定语从句的大量使用，建议看一下the elements of style在精华区里，可以简化语言，来更好的充实论证]