issue 87 thank you

dabaoqiaoUID: 195888

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In any field of inquiry, the beginner is more likely than the expert to make important discoveries.
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In any field of inquiry there are numerous important discoveries, but who had made them, the beginners or the experts. People today put forward a question about these. In my view I think both of them can make some important discoveries but unfortunately they also have inferior elements respectively and from my angle the most effective way to make important discoveries is encouraging them to cooperate.

At first we need respectively analyzing the characters of the beginners and the experts before we discuss the topic. As for beginners, they are persons who just come into the field. They have strong interest to this new field, act more actively and have no limitation of their ideas, but they have little, if any, knowledge and experience of this field. Oppositely the experts, who have been working in the field for many yeas, are knowledgeable and have accumulated so many experiences by their endeavor in this field, but may act less active and are usually limited by some fixed mode of thought. However, in a word, the respective advantages of the two groups of people give both of them the chances to make important discoveries, and at the same time the respective disadvantages impede them to making these discoveries.

One the one hand, experts, after working in the field for many years, they have already noticed the flaws or mistakes in this field, and they also have the ability to revise and correct them based on their accumulated experiences and knowledge. In academic field, for example, Einstein, who put forwards the theory of relativity, was an expert in his field, and it is no doubt that his great contribution is based on his working in this field for so many years. However beginners are also have chances to make great discoveries even though they do not have enough knowledge. They have active ideas and have no limitation of fixed mode of thinking. They have courage to put forwards anything they do not agree with or suspect without anxiety of being accused and they like to spend time and energy to verify them.

On the other hand, sometimes experts’ experiences may lead them mistakenly ignore some strange appearances in the field. They may think those strange ones are only caused by carelessness, Moreover, even they may admit that there are definitely different phenomenon from the normal ones , they may feel that they lack the energy and time to study them more deeply. As for beginners, though they can bravely and actively advance questions, the value of these questions are not so much and most of them may be caused by their lack of knowledge and experience. So because of different characters of beginners and experts, they need to cooperate in the works. Experts should encourage the beginners to ask questions and put forwards their different opinions. They should considerably think them over no matter how ridiculous it seems. The beginners, on the other hand, should discuss with experts as many as possible, especially when they have uncertainties. Moreover keep the ardor of exploring new things, and when the experts advance some skepticism, they should assistant the experts to verify them, for example, doing experience.

In sum the beginners and experts also have the chances to make important discoveries, but they also have inferior flaws. They should cooperate in the work and by doing this, the field will keep improving.

xuding_godUID: 179213

我不同意楼上的观点,我认为楼主的切入点还是比较好,beginer and expert both make discoveries, and both important discoveries,这个从逻辑上也是说的通的我觉得.
但我觉得楼主的文章也许是为了追求单词数,显得有些冗余,很多部分都重复了,结尾的力度也不够,有点头重脚轻.
以上是个人愚见,还请大家讨论!

dabaoqiaoUID: 195888

谢谢你的意见：）但我在那句之前还写了beginner 和experts 各有特点，都能mank dicovery.，我自己本意是想写“中立”观点
第二段：分析beginner experts的特点，指出他们都能make，但也都可能make不出来
第三段：具体分析各自优点如何能使他们make
第四段：具体分析各自缺点，如何使他们make不出来。
最后说了要“合作、取长补短”，才能更多make
不知这样的想法算不算走题呢，呵呵，希望能继续讨论

最初由 milanandbarca 发布
[B]我只看了第一段,但楼主好象跑题了
题目是说beginner比expert更容易make important discoveries.题目讨论的就是一个more的问题
但我看楼主的第一段,你的TS说'from my angl..

以下省略...... [/B]

dabaoqiaoUID: 195888

谢谢哟：）
这篇文章我觉得应该举例子，但我找不到beginner 能make discovery 的例子，所以几乎完全在说理，有点“无理搅三分”的感觉，呵呵

最初由 xuding_god 发布
[B]我不同意楼上的观点,我认为楼主的切入点还是比较好,beginer and expert both make discoveries, and both important discoveries,这个从逻辑上也是说的通的我觉得.
但我觉..

以下省略...... [/B]

milanandbarcaUID: 157330

不啊,量子物理学界就有很多beginner make important discoveries的
基本上我们耳熟能祥的discoveries都是beginner发现的

dabaoqiaoUID: 195888

能不能给提供几个，我对量子物理这块儿一点都不熟啊。先谢谢了：）

最初由 milanandbarca 发布
[B]不啊,量子物理学界就有很多beginner make important discoveries的
基本上我们耳熟能祥的discoveries都是beginner发现的 [/B]

milanandbarcaUID: 157330

你上google搜一下就有的
像爱因斯坦的很多发现是在他比较年轻的时候发现的
还有波尔也很典型呀