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[u][b]Advice from a Berkeley ph.d[/b][/u]
Advice for Applying to Economics Ph.d Program
The following are questions I've been asked about the application process and my replies.
Why apply? There's only one reason to apply to economic PhD programs, namely
that you want to do research in economics as a part of your career.
Where to apply? I applied to schools based on location and reputation. At
first I was just going to apply to Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, based
on a friend's advice that I'd "certainly" get in one if not more.
In the end I applied to those schools above plus UCSD,
Texas, Penn and UVA. Even though I did end up getting into UC Berkeley, I
think it was smart to apply other places, especially where my chances were
high.
Here's how I'd suggest you decide where to apply: Look at a listing of
economics phd programs by reputation (which you can easily find online).
Cross off schools that you'd never want to go to even if you got in. Look
up the econ dept web sites for the remaining schools and check to see that
these departments offer field courses in the areas you are interested in
(don't worry if you do know this for sure yet, a lot of people change after
their first year anyway). For me this was important because I wanted to do
financial economics and some places (UCLA) don't do it. Apply to all the
schools on your list who are in the top 10. Apply to some of the schools in
the 10-30 range picking out schools that you'd particularly like to attend
for one reason or another (for me location). If in the end you have roughly
7-12 schools, that's good. Most schools, public and private, allow
you to teach or ra to get money after the first year. I got no money for
Berkeley, so I borrowed $24,000 my first year. I got offered 15,000 plus
tuition from UCSD, UVA, and Texas. Even though I thought this was a huge
financial difference, EVERY econ prof I talked to said that the pdv of my
lifetime income coming out of Berkeley vs. the others would swamp this
difference.
How to get accepted? I've been told that your general test GRE scores (by
the way, don't take the subject test in econ, no one cares!), GPA, course
selection (the more math/stats the better) will get you past the first few
cuts of the admission process, but your recommendation letters will be what
gets you in. A very detailed letter from your boss may be good, but your
application reviewers are more likely to know your profs. personally or
by reputation, thus there rep will have much greater sway in getting you in.
Your personal statement is also important. Emphasize your interest in doing
research. They don't want problem set killers; they want
good researchers. Saying something like "I really like taking economics courses
and I'm good at it so I wanted to take graduate courses" will get you booted.
Saying something like " I am passionate about discovering the underlying causes
of stock market exuberance" will get you in.
Do schools just care about your GRE quantitative score?
I think it's true that schools mostly just care about the quantitative
section; it's also true that they'll want this score to be 770 or more. 800
is probably the median quantitative score at the top schools. As for verbal
and analytical scores, a friend of mine joked of there being an inverse
relationship between one's verbal score and one's success in getting into
economics grad school. With the analytical section now a writing section,
I'm not sure what schools think, but traditionally analytical holds a
little more importance than verbal but not that much more.
How should I ask for recommendations?
Definitely email your profs. or their secretaries to set up a time to meet with
them when you are in town. This will be a million times more effective
than just writing them. If you can make their office hours, then I think
that's best. I don't think it's important you know exactly which schools
you'll be applying to when you talk to them the first time. I think it's
best if you tell them which schools you are interested in and then ask them
if they would recommend any others. This conversation should let them know
where your interests are (for example, finance and microtheory), and they
will tell you the best places to be. Don't be surprised if they ask you to
do a little work to help them write a good letter, such as providing them
with your transcript, work you did in their class, and maybe your statement
of purpose. Even if they don't ask, be sure to provide them with these
things, especially a list of all the relevant experiences you had with them
that you want them to relate in their letter. Be sure to ask them how you
can make their letter writing easier for them. I think it's ideal if you
meet with them soon to simply ask if they will do it for you and then come
back in a couple weeks to give them this info as well as the reference
forms.
When should I get started on the applications?
Go ahead and download all the forms for each application. The massiveness
of the paperwork involved in applying will give you a good heads up of
what's coming. I spent the good part of Thanksgiving break last year doing
applications.
Should I visit or email departments or professors that I'm interested in?
I've heard that visiting/emailing departments/professors can be useful,
particularly in fields other than economics where admission is a little
more subjective. In economics, I think admission is largely set by gpa
particularly in econ and math courses, gre, and research
interest/experience. Unless your professor you are working with sets up an
interview for you, I'd probably not ask for one. I don't think a polite
email to professors whose research interests match yours could hurt and it
possibly could help. Basically, professors are really busy and you
certainly don't want to bug them. 知道经济学为什么不好陶瓷了吧? 大家不要急,慢慢作材料就是。
How can I guarantee acceptance to top schools as a highly qualified international
applicant?
There's certainly no sure way to guarantee acceptance into top schools.
Having a high GPA, particularly in math and statistics courses, high GRE scores, and
excellent recommendations certainly help. Top programs get hundreds of
applications, so sometimes even very qualified applicants get rejected.
As an international applicant, it's very important to ensure the
admissions committee that you will be capable of learning in an
environment where only English is spoken. Doing well on the TOEFL is
important, and be sure to have someone proofread your application
Why is the verbal score so unimportant; isn't it related to writing skill?
Yes, i agree the verbal score does have some correlation with writing
skill, and it's true that the admission committee cares a little about the
verbal score. I don't think it's a good enough measure of writing ability
for them to use. It's too much just an indicator of good vocabulary. I
bet they take stock of your statement of purpose for writing ability. For
many international students with English as a second language, their
verbal score is very low due to lack of vocabulary, but their expository
writing skill is pretty good and that's most important for paper writing.
When they say "Brief Statement of Purpose" in the application, how
long should that be? (I've got 3 pages now, but am not sure if I should
be cutting it down, increasing it, or leaving it alone).
If you have 3 pages single-spaced, then you should be cutting it down.
Unless your prose is pulitzer worthy, they won't read that far. I think 1
to 1.5 pages single-spaced is about right.
I have been out in the "real world" for many years. I was wondering if there
were any issues I should be particularly aware of since I'm in a very
different circumstance than most applicants. Will my age/career stage be a
problem? Are all the PhD students straight out of undergrad (or close)?
Yes, all of that experience is great, and it will be most effective if
you emphasize how it will help you to be a better researcher. Avoid the
trap of saying something to the effect of 'I'm tired of working and want
to do more school cause that would be really cool and meaningful though
I'd make less money.' Empasize research.
Not all of the graduate students at berkeley come straight out of
undergrad. I'd say there are fewer of those than students who've worked
for a few years (i'd guess about 3 years experience on average among those
who've worked). In my class, the oldest person was about 30, but I don't
think the admission panel cares that much about age as long as the
applicant's goals are in the right place (research) |
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