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发表于 2005-10-5 20:21:54 |只看该作者
一口气看完了你的帖子连载,挺pf你的勇气和执着的。祝你我还有所有有梦的同路人梦想成真。
推荐信的话,完全同意的你看法,其实在国外看来推荐信不是国际知名的教授写跟普通人写就差不多了。
另外问一个问题你文中提到的“http://www.yes-asia.com”网站好像不是你所说的查t要求的网站嘛
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发表于 2005-10-5 21:13:52 |只看该作者
牛MM。。。自叹弗如

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发表于 2005-10-7 23:39:39 |只看该作者
中南财大的啊~~~
厉害呢~~~
我在微笑.

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发表于 2005-10-8 07:57:57 |只看该作者
想起老罗说修理新东方那帮“one by one 的 care 不过来”
温柔的男人像海洋,爱在关键时隐藏;

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PS各校要求---TT整理

1、BERKELEY
(1)Statement of Purpose: Please describe your aptitude and motivation for graduate study in your area of specialization, including your preparation for this field of study, your academic plans or research interests in your chosen area of study, and your future career goals. Please be specific about why UC Berkeley would be a good intellectual fit for you
(2)Personal History Statement: Required of all applicants. Please note that the Personal History Statement should not duplicate the Statement of Purpose (previous page).
In an essay, discuss how your personal background informs your decision to pursue a graduate degree. Please include any educational, familial, cultural, economic, or social experiences, challenges, or opportunities relevant to your academic journey; how you might contribute to social or cultural diversity within your chosen field; and/or how you might serve educationally underrepresented segments of society with your degree.
2、芝大
Please discuss your academic and career objectives. Be as specific as you can about the field in which you plan to study and your particular research interests. Beyond what is apparent from your transcripts, describe preparation for proposed program of study, including research projects in which you have participated, and mathematics, computer, and language training where appropriate.

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PS各校要求--TT整理

3、马里兰大学-college park
(1)statement of experiences:Write a brief 400-600 word statement describing any life experiences that you have had that you feel have prepared you to pursue a graduate degree at a large, diverse institution such as University of Maryland. Among the items you may care to include would be how your interest in or knowledge of your chosen field developed, your community and family background, whether you are the first person in your family to pursue a higher education, or any other factors that you feel would contribute to the diversity of our academic community. Finally, give us some examples of your determination to pursue your goals, your initiative and ability to develop ideas, and/or your capacity for working through problems independently.
(2)statement of goals:Write a brief 400-600 word statement concerning your reasons for undertaking graduate study. Indicate, if appropriate, any specific areas of research interest. You may wish to discuss past work in your intended field and allied fields and outline your plans for a professional career. If there are special financial or academic circumstances you wish to bring to the attention of the graduate committee, please feel free to do so.
4、michigan state u
A personal statement is required. The application may be submitted without the personal statement. However, your application will be incomplete until the personal statement is received. We are interested in learning more about your background, talents, and experiences and how you plan to apply them to your MSU education and future. Your statement may also be used for scholarship consideration. Please limit your statement to two double-spaced pages. Suggested topics include:
(1)Your experience as an active citizen in your school or community and the ways in which you expect to contribute to the MSU community.
(2)Your experience combining academic and hands-on learning.
(3)Obstacles that you have encountered and how you have overcome them.
(4)Your interest in an MSU education and how you intend to use it to make a difference in society.
(5)Your experiences promoting global understanding and/or the value of diversity in society.
(6)A description of your work ethic and accomplishments that illustrate that ethic.

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发表于 2005-10-8 23:42:57 |只看该作者
橘子,没见你两天,原来在弄这个东东啊~~

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发表于 2005-10-9 00:06:21 |只看该作者
没有啊,这个早就弄好的,才想起放上去而已。

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发表于 2005-10-9 16:27:12 |只看该作者
2005-10-9               星期日                 天气:晴

   一大早谈**就打电话说要去听美的宣讲会,正好我也要去首义借real analysis的书,就跟他一块过去了。然后绕道陪他去领了image designer的证书,再绕道陪他去洪山那边逛街。呵呵,有一辆雪糕车摆在路边的,我们都很久没有吃到奶味这么浓的冰激凌了。要不是我想回来休息了,他还能逛那么2、3个小时的,天,21世纪的男生都那么能逛街,估计是“锻炼”出来的。

   申请的情况已经基本上稳定了,接下来就是按部就班地进行一些程序,下一个忙碌期应该是在月末,所以现在就是看看专业书,背背高口的范文,外加好好减肥准备下个月的深圳之行。

   昨晚突然有几个小时陷入无端沮丧的情绪,什么事也不能做。下了fire light看,结局还是大圆满吧,庆幸这次平安度过。不过害PR担心了,^_^~~~~

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10月14日                     星期五                     天气:雨
    头痛

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发表于 2005-10-15 22:03:48 |只看该作者
好强悍的人。。。
飘过
水过。。。

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发表于 2005-10-15 23:30:57 |只看该作者

TT, 注意身体,不要让感冒影响

妹妹,你大胆地往前走,该出手时就出手。。。。
祝愿早日康复。

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[u][b]Advice from a Berkeley ph.d[/b][/u]

Advice for Applying to Economics Ph.d Program

The following are questions I've been asked about the application process and my replies.



Why apply? There's only one reason to apply to economic PhD programs, namely
that you want to do research in economics as a part of your career.  

Where to apply?  I applied to schools based on location and reputation.  At
first I was just going to apply to Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, based
on a friend's advice that I'd "certainly" get in one if not more.
In the end I applied to those schools above plus UCSD,
Texas, Penn and UVA.  Even though I did end up getting into UC Berkeley, I
think it was smart to apply other places, especially where my chances were
high.
Here's how I'd suggest you decide where to apply:  Look at a listing of
economics phd programs by reputation (which you can easily find online).
Cross off schools that you'd never want to go to even if you got in.  Look
up the econ dept web sites for the remaining schools and check to see that
these departments offer field courses in the areas you are interested in
(don't worry if you do know this for sure yet, a lot of people change after
their first year anyway).  For me this was important because I wanted to do
financial economics and some places (UCLA) don't do it. Apply to all the
schools on your list who are in the top 10.  Apply to some of the schools in
the 10-30 range picking out schools that you'd particularly like to attend
for one reason or another (for me location). If in the end you have roughly
7-12 schools, that's good.   Most schools, public and private, allow
you to teach or ra to get money after the first year.
  I got no money for
Berkeley, so I borrowed $24,000 my first year.  I got offered 15,000 plus
tuition from UCSD, UVA, and Texas.  Even though I thought this was a huge
financial difference, EVERY econ prof I talked to said that the pdv of my
lifetime income coming out of Berkeley vs. the others would swamp this
difference.

How to get accepted?  I've been told that your general test GRE scores (by
the way, don't take the subject test in econ, no one cares!), GPA, course
selection (the more math/stats the better) will get you past the first few
cuts of the admission process, but your recommendation letters will be what
gets you in.  A very detailed letter from your boss may be good, but your
application reviewers are more likely to know your profs. personally or
by reputation, thus there rep will have much greater sway in getting you in.
Your personal statement is also important.  Emphasize your interest in doing
research.  They don't want problem set killers; they want
good researchers.  Saying something like "I really like taking economics courses
and I'm good at it so I wanted to take graduate courses" will get you booted.
Saying something like " I am passionate about discovering the underlying causes
of stock market exuberance" will get you in.


Do schools just care about your GRE quantitative score?
I think it's true that schools mostly just care about the quantitative
section; it's also true that they'll want this score to be 770 or more.  800
is probably the median quantitative score at the top schools.  As for verbal
and analytical scores, a friend of mine joked of there being an inverse
relationship between one's verbal score and one's success in getting into
economics grad school.  With the analytical section now a writing section,
I'm not sure what schools think, but traditionally analytical holds a
little more importance than verbal but not that much more.

How should I ask for recommendations?
Definitely email your profs. or their secretaries to set up a time to meet with
them when you are in town.  This will be a million times more effective
than just writing them.  If you can make their office hours, then I think
that's best.  I don't think it's important you know exactly which schools
you'll be applying to when you talk to them the first time.  I think it's
best if you tell them which schools you are interested in and then ask them
if they would recommend any others. This conversation should let them know
where your interests are (for example, finance and microtheory), and they
will tell you the best places to be.  Don't be surprised if they ask you to
do a little work to help them write a good letter, such as providing them
with your transcript, work you did in their class, and maybe your statement
of purpose.  Even if they don't ask, be sure to provide them with these
things, especially a list of all the relevant experiences you had with them
that you want them to relate in their letter.  Be sure to ask them how you
can make their letter writing easier for them.  I think it's ideal if you
meet with them soon to simply ask if they will do it for you and then come
back in a couple weeks to give them this info as well as the reference
forms.

When should I get started on the applications?
Go ahead and download all the forms for each application.  The massiveness
of the paperwork involved in applying will give you a good heads up of
what's coming.  I spent the good part of Thanksgiving break last year doing
applications.

Should I visit or email departments or professors that I'm interested in?
I've heard that visiting/emailing departments/professors can be useful,
particularly in fields other than economics where admission is a little
more subjective.  In economics, I think admission is largely set by gpa
particularly in econ and math courses, gre, and research
interest/experience. Unless your professor you are working with sets up an
interview for you, I'd probably not ask for one.  I don't think a polite
email to professors whose research interests match yours could hurt and it
possibly could help.  Basically, professors are really busy and you
certainly don't want to bug them.
知道经济学为什么不好陶瓷了吧? 大家不要急,慢慢作材料就是

How can I guarantee acceptance to top schools as a highly qualified international
applicant?
There's certainly no sure way to guarantee acceptance into top schools.  
Having a high GPA, particularly in math and statistics courses, high GRE scores, and
excellent recommendations certainly help.  Top programs get hundreds of
applications, so sometimes even very qualified applicants get rejected.
As an international applicant, it's very important to ensure the
admissions committee that you will be capable of learning in an
environment where only English is spoken.  Doing well on the TOEFL is
important, and be sure to have someone proofread your application

Why is the verbal score so unimportant; isn't it related to writing skill?
Yes, i agree the verbal score does have some correlation with writing
skill, and it's true that the admission committee cares a little about the
verbal score.  I don't think it's a good enough measure of writing ability
for them to use.  It's too much just an indicator of good vocabulary. I
bet they take stock of your statement of purpose for writing ability.  For
many international students with English as a second language, their
verbal score is very low due to lack of vocabulary, but their expository
writing skill is pretty good  and that's most important for paper writing.

When they say "Brief Statement of Purpose" in the application, how
long should that be? (I've got 3 pages now, but am not sure if I should
be cutting it down, increasing it, or leaving it alone).
If you have 3 pages single-spaced, then you should be cutting it down.
Unless your prose is pulitzer worthy, they won't read that far.  I think 1
to 1.5 pages single-spaced is about right.

I have been out in the "real world" for many years. I was wondering if there
were any issues I should be particularly aware of since I'm in a very
different circumstance than most applicants. Will my age/career stage be a
problem? Are all the PhD students straight out of undergrad (or close)?
Yes, all of that experience is great, and it will be most effective if
you emphasize how it will help you to be a better researcher.  Avoid the
trap of saying something to the effect of 'I'm tired of working and want
to do more school cause that would be really cool and meaningful though
I'd make less money.'  Empasize research.
Not all of the graduate students at berkeley come straight out of
undergrad. I'd say there are fewer of those than students who've worked
for a few years (i'd guess about 3 years experience on average among those
who've worked).  In my class, the oldest person was about 30, but I don't
think the admission panel cares that much about age as long as the
applicant's goals are in the right place (research)

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发表于 2005-10-16 00:42:55 |只看该作者

招聘

2005-10-16                   星期六                   天气:晴且冷

出去保研面试的朋友们都回来了,我正纳闷所谓国内牛校一说,他们一个个都战果累累,谈到**校、**校都是那种犹如探囊取物一样意气风发的。我想是不是今年研究生又扩招啊,会说,她是通过层层1/2的选择率最后胜出的,果然妄自菲薄没有必要。公安学院还有MM保上北大法硕,消息源自源头,应该没错。灿的武大面试排在月末,就算跨专业又如何,全国只招一个又如何,如果只招半个,我也对他充满信心。偶校学生官里面我觉得绝对有水平的只有两个职位,一是校学生会主席,另一个就是学通社社长。都形象伟岸、谈吐,嘿嘿,迷人。还有就是鑫师兄了,虽然有挑战主持人和CCTV实习背景,他仍然选择了北广,去年失手,今年卷土重来,毫不逊色。

这个星期还是受了外界的影响,先是组队参加了一个比赛,后是四处网上透简历,很crazy的状态。尤其是那个比赛,从得到信息到组队到完成2万字稿件,总共不到4天,这也是我头痛的原因了。期间TSE天天打电话问成绩,有些等不了了。弄完比赛,再来看申请,更别有风情。就是旁观者的角度了,冷静多了。

说实话,虽然这周插入了四处找工作的插曲,现实让我清醒了很多。如我对TIM所说,看完了BCG的招聘要求、Morgan Stanley的招聘要求(就算只是校园招聘),我知道现在做什么对我最好了,那就是坚定地出国!

有很多人问过我出国的理由,我之前有时表现得是个爱情至上者,有时就干脆从哲学的角度加上旁征博引论述一通让人觉得不出国人生真是不完整,或者我自己都没有想清楚过。毕竟对一个未来无限可能的年轻女孩来说,把自己从大世界缩到一条狭窄的路上需要勇气。如果出国只是一种虚荣的挑逗,我觉得,很难有力量支撑着自己走完全程,包括读完炼狱式的PHD。理由只有一个,生存的威胁!如果不是认真关注了几乎所有校园招聘的大企业的要求,我可能还会带着以前出去“受苦”的态度去申请。激烈残酷的生存竞争远比情绪化来得必要,虽然我们都不是圣人。所谓的“狼性”。

Michael 那里的消息,P&G几年来在武汉只推介、只招聘但从不招人。恐,突然对学生这群弱势群体产生自我同情。还有很多我们不知道的,明显地反映在学生向社会人过渡的途中。无所谓啦,到哪都要竞争的,否则就去学老子天天调节失败者的平和心态。

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这个MM好AMBITIOUS

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