【G盟心情篇】-V6专用讨论贴 ||考G如养猫-V6的战友看过来-We're back!

mkb57288UID：2105771

终于看完了高频Argument的一半，继续努力争取今天晚上看完，明天中午之前模考两篇I 一篇A

xiaowenzi118UID：202887

zehua你今天做了几个section呀？感觉好多呀。我昨天什么也没做，今天补了一下，做了no7-8的类反，反义错得多了，觉得比前面的多一点。

不知一般类反错几个算是可以保底呢？？我要求不高，Verbal 550就行。

xiaowenzi118UID：202887

Originally posted by mkb57288 at 2005-9-3 21:00
终于看完了高频Argument的一半，继续努力争取今天晚上看完，明天中午之前模考两篇I 一篇A

真是个好人呀，快考了，加油。我争取明后两天把样品做了，然后就可以去帮你小拍一下了。相信水平应该非同一般了吧。;P

mkb57288UID：2105771

不要这么说倒时候会失望的

zehuaUID：199246

刚才收到斑竹的pm了，要对V6站队表扬，还有给队友加分！！！

xiaowenzi118UID：202887

Originally posted by zehua at 2005-9-4 07:39
刚才收到斑竹的pm了，要对V6站队表扬，还有给队友加分！！！

不错不错,今天要做一天实验了。刚刚用王水泡了一大堆东西，好不容易可以歇一下。
晚上可以上来讨论一下。:lol

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mkb57288UID：2105771

有没有搞错，刚才竟然有人打电话追到香港来说要我参加什么保持共产党员先进性教育，还要寄学习材料回去，严重汗。。。我现在觉得能把作文考完就是先进性的最好表现了

下面附上一篇刚刚写完的argument，自我感觉还可以，但很不幸的超时了两分钟，正在考虑原来的速度到哪里去了，anyway期待大家的砖头

mkb57288UID：2105771

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The following appeared in a medical newsletter.
'Doctors have long suspected that secondary infections may keep some patients from healing quickly after severe muscle strain. This hypothesis has now been proved by preliminary results of a study of two groups of patients. The first group of patients, all being treated for muscle injuries by Dr. Newland, a doctor who specializes in sports medicine, took antibiotics regularly throughout their treatment. Their recuperation time was, on average, 40 percent quicker than typically expected. Patients in the second group, all being treated by Dr. Alton, a general physician, were given sugar pills, although the patients believed they were taking antibiotics. Their average recuperation time was not significantly reduced. Therefore, all patients who are diagnosed with muscle strain would be well advised to take antibiotics as part of their treatment.'
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Before accepting the prescribed antibiotic for all patients suffering from muscle strain, it is necessary to examine the reliability carefully. In my observation, the well-organized by poorly-reasoned argument suffers from several logic fallacies: first, the study, upon which author's conclusion established, is absent of details, then probably dubious; secondly,  many other factors influencing the healing of muscle strain are overlooked; finally, the author seems to generalize imprudently. Now, I will analyze these one by one.

To begin with, to be reliable evidence, mentioned study must be strictly controlled. In other words, the anticipating patients must be identical in all related aspects. The author, however, fails to do so. It is highly possible that people in the first group are much stronger than those in the second group, and their healthy physique helps to reduce the time for convalescence. It is equally possible that patients in the first group are much younger than their counterparts in the control group, which may also accelerate the process of healing. The author even fails to consider influence imposed on the study result by different sexes, for it is highly possible that male can enjoy a quicker healing than female. Furthermore no evidence is provided about the number of samples in each group. If the number is too small, then the conclusion's representativeness of the overall pool will surely be weakened. As a result, the author cannot claim it is suitable for every patient with muscle strain to take antibiotics.

Another problem with the argument is that the author overlooks other factors that may influence the result of study. Even from the description of author's, we can notice one conspicuously different factor--that is different physicians. It is might the case that doctor specializing in sports medicine helps in reducing the time spent on convalescence, for he or she is much more capable than the general physician in treating muscle strain, which is a manifestation of sport injury. Or perhaps, patients in the first group receive more intensive care from nurses or some extra treatment, say kneading on the strained muscle. In short, before ruling out other possible factors that influence the time spent on healing, the author fails to convince me it is antibiotic rather than other factors that accelerate the process of convalescence.

Last but not least, even if secondary infections keep some patients from healing quick after 'severe' muscle strain, what about the patients with ordinary or minor muscle strain? No evidence shows that there is a good chance for these patients to get secondary infection. Therefore, antibiotics may be not necessary at all. Moreover, as we know, antibiotics is often of some side-effect, and not suitable for every. That is to say, following the generalization of the author, we actually take potential risk of undermining the health of patients.

To sum up, the mentioned fallacies severely weaken the reliability of the argument. To better support his or her conclusion, the author must substantiate that the study is strictly controlled and all factors that may influence the result are precluded. Meanwhile, to get a sounder conclusion, the author also tries hard to avoid any imprudent generalization as he does at the end of the argument.

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nickaaronleeUID：183378

这几天没有把电脑带到学校，呵呵，V6还是好热闹哦~~~

nickaaronleeUID：183378

觉得verbal好麻烦阿

killer007001UID：2116913

不错不错
猫不错

nickaaronleeUID：183378

大家现在单词都背到什么程度了？

esmeirasUID：202885

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Before accepting the prescribed antibiotic for all patients suffering from muscle strain, it is necessary to examine the reliability carefully. （和范文的结构是一样的，这里开头是肯定可行的。但我想指出的是这句还是不够强烈；既然是药， 必须通过检测和临床实验那些 it is necessary 语气会不会弱了一点呢？）  In my observation, （ 我觉得这里改一点点承接会更加连贯。参考一下ets范文那个红茶的，我的扔老远了，至少加个however这样的提示词也要好点啊）    the well-organized by poorly-reasoned argument suffers from several logic fallacies: first, the study, upon which author's conclusion established, is undetailed, （查无此词）then probably dubious; second,  many other factors influencing the healing of muscle strain are overlooked; finally, the author seems to generalize imprudently. （ Now, I will analyze these one by one   说实话，感觉挺刹风景的）  

to begin with, to be reliable evidence, mentioned study must be strictly controlled. （ 第一句最好不要用散句。英文，尤其是正式文体第一句一般都是一句很长的复合句啊。    ）In other words, the anticipating patients must be identical in all related aspects. The author, however, fails to do so （ that 会不会好一点？ So, 这种介词放在句尾没有that 正式，虽然很多人都这么用） . It is highly possible that people in （ the） first group are much stronger than those in  (the 定冠词呀大大}second group, and their healthy physique helps to reduce the time for convalescence. Or perhaps, （ beside, it is equally possible that the） patients in the first group are much younger than their counterparts in the control group, which may also accelerate the process of healing. （ 定丛太多了点）The author even fails to consider influence imposed on the study result by different sexes, for it is highly possible that male can enjoy a quicker healing than female. Furthermore （，） no evidence is provided about the ( number  of samples 怪怪的，把人成做sample…  no evidence…..about the quantity of the …..participated in the….. 我好久没写了，你随便参考一下哈)  in each group. If the number is too small, then the conclusion's representative ness  of the overall pool will surely be weakened. As a result, the author cannot claim it is suitable for every patient with muscle strain to take antibiotics.

Another problem with the argument is that the author overlooks other factors that may influence the result of study.  （ 恩恩，他因 ）Even from the description of author's, we can notice one conspicuously different factor--that is  （different ） doctors   （这么是8对滴， the differentials of doctors?  好象也不对。 干脆就说different doctors might …different prescriptions嘛。。~~ .会不会明白点呢。。。~) It is highly possible that doctor specializing in sports medicine helps in reducing the time spent on convalescence, for he or she is much more capable than the general physician in treating muscle strain, which is a manifestation of sport injury. （定丛又来了。。~） Or perhaps,（ 老大，又来了。。~） patients in the first group receive more intensive care from nurses or some extra treatment, say kneading on the strained muscle. In short, before ruling out other possible factors that influence the time spent on healing, the author fails to convince me it is antibiotic rather than other factors that accelerate the process of convalescence.  

Last but not least, even if secondary infections keep some patients from healing quick after 'severe' muscle strain, what about the patients with ordinary or minor muscle strain? No evidence shows that there is a good chance for these patients to get secondary infection. Therefore, antibiotics may be not necessary at all. Moreover, as we know, antibiotics （ is often of  ， is often consisted with…could always bring..）some side-effect, and not suitable for every( every 什么？  Everyone 不？) That is to say, following the generalization of the author, we actually take potential risk of undermining the health of patients.  （最后一句很好！）

To sum up, the mentioned fallacies severely weaken the reliability of the argument. To better support his or her （ 那有这么麻烦啊，非要强调作者的性别吗？ To better support‘the’argument 也可以嘛）conclusion, the author must substantiate that the study is strictly controlled and all factors that may influence the result are precluded. Meanwhile, to get a sounder conclusion, the author also tries hard to avoid any imprudent generalization as he does at the end of the argument.


Comments:
1. 大大，这个开头如果是4分应该是绝对没问题的，如果考官心情好点排到5分可能也行。 但我对你的期望是6分哦。我是你我开头就用范文一样的2句，一句长一句短，把问题说清楚又简洁有力。 这里的1，2，3 还有承接我感觉写的不是最理想的说。你就是丢了这几句也有差不多500字啊

2. 拍的比较狠， 别影响心情哦， 你的结构啊都很好的，尤其是issue, 那个葱白。。。~~~嘿嘿
3. 这么写已经可以了，别担心，我是用理想主义的目光来看的，呵呵。 不过还是建议看下红茶的那篇范文啊。 加油哦！！！！！  等好消息！！！！！

mkb57288UID：2105771

这个也是一篇6分范文的标准开头:L

A recent survey of dental patients showed that people who use Smile-Bright toothpaste are most likely to have capped teeth -- artificial but natural-looking protective coverings placed by dentists on individual teeth.  Those people who had begun using Smile-Bright toothpaste early in life were more likely to have capped teeth than were people who had begun using Smile-Bright later in life.  In addition, those who reported brushing their teeth more than twice a day with Smile-Bright toothpaste were more likely to have caps on their teeth than were those who reported brushing with Smile-Bright less frequently.  Therefore, people wishing to avoid having their teeth capped should not use Smile-Bright toothpaste.
  
Sample-1 (Score 6)
The argument contains several facets that are questionable.  First, the reliability and generalizability  of the survey are open to quesiton.  In addition, the argument assumes a correlation amounts to a causal relationship.  The argument also fails to examine alternative explanations.  I will discuss each of these facets in turn.

关于句子的问题，谢谢你指出的一些句式单调的问题，只是当时没有好好考虑，现在正在总结修改，另外，关于你说的长句比较正式---我现在是在刻意得避免长句子，有些时候觉得长句对于阿狗不是很有力量的回应，或者我比较乐意在一段的首句使用短句，就是有280那样的长句也放到后面的第二句上去，总觉得像那样一段内只有一点具体的反驳，前后都是逻辑的长句子分析也不是很有说服力的

还有，那个葱白是什么意思？？？

[ Last edited by mkb57288 on 2005-9-4 at 13:37 ]

mkb57288UID：2105771

上午宿舍的roomate来了，交流了一下没有完成任务，下午继续