Issue51 【南智组luckychina第17次作业】

luckychinaUID: 2131861

TOPIC: ISSUE51 - "Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student."
WORDS: 610          TIME: 0:55:00          DATE: 2007-1-22

Nowadays, the criteria of an effective education is far more than only to teach how to read and write, but to incite and develop the individual interests on a proper and practical way. But as far as I concern, education should not and could not be specifically designed to cater to the separate needs and interests of each student.

Before considering whether education should be interest-oriented or not, it is necessary to concern the internal meaning about interest at first. How do interests be discerned? By people's close touch. How do they develop? By people's close touch. Or even how do they disappear? Still by people's close touch. Experiences tell us that only when an individual get in touch with some field, he or she would be possibly realize whether he or she is interested in it or not. Any announcements such as "I am crazily interested in math" or "I would never ever study any math" would be not reasonable until the individual reads some math books or listens to some lectures on math. Otherwise, even after a student concentrate on what he or she formally thought to be interesting for some time, it is entirely possible for him or her to abandon the originally favorite subject and convert to another. That because no experience, no right to say. As a result of the variations and uncertainty of interests, it still too early to design education to meet the individual needs and interests.

Even if education follows the current needs and interests of each students-let alone whether they would remain their needs and interests tomorrow- mere interest-oriented education might extract students from general and well-rounded perspectives of this colorful world. In fact, there are a myriad of students who spend their time only on what interests them most and ignore any other boring subjects to them, who seem to have freedom to do whatever they like and apparently enjoy a happy life; but only those who are immersed in various kinds of field, whether interesting or not, lead a truly harmony life, not only able to access to a decent position after graduation, but more importantly, to have full insight to the world around them. It is much too late for the former to say that "If only I have learned more other than my interests" when they face the competitive job markets and the complex mundane world. Therefore, to prevent from repeating their tragedy, education ought to provide various kinds of knowledge rather than only to focus on students' interests.

Moreover, even if the interest-oriented education is advocated by majority of students and parents, it is still impracticable to require education to be personally designed, considering the available educational resources. How many students in a university? Many. How many different needs of such students? Many. How many individual interests to those people? Still many. But to so many students’ so many needs and interests, unfortunately, the fact is that teachers are limited, classes are insufficient, and educational equipments are not enough neither. In today's world where there still exist some children too poor to receive education, where there still exist some people too starved to get away, it is impracticable to require interest-oriented education to every students.

After discussing the internal meaning of interests and the results and probabilities of interest-oriented education above, we would not blame for education failing to satisfy every student’s demands and interests any longer, for this kind of education is neither ineffective nor impracticable, let alone such is the only method of effective one. Instead, we ought to set up a general-oriented education properly based on majority students’ preference, which is truly effective.

题目说教育只有满足每个学生的需要和兴趣的教育才是真正有效的，我知道关键词在only，但我是想通过说这种教育既不有效也不可行，就更谈不上是有效教育的唯一途径了，这样会不会离题了呢，还是应该说general-oriented教育或其他教育也是有效或更有效呢？~~希望大家猛批~~

alive1986UID: 2241739

顶，晚上收下

supper_xuUID: 2227277

个人观点：有点玄，考试最好还是不要这么写

关键还是要抓住教育，而不是兴趣。

我这一篇写完和别人讨论后，感觉也有点问题，别人感觉有走题之嫌，有空去看看吧
谢谢

lalahUID: 2215160

暂顶一下哈~

norman518UID: 188582

Nowadays, the criteria of an effective education is far more than only to teach how to read and write, but to incite【感觉incite有“煽动做坏事”；想表达“剌激，激励”：spur、catalyze】and develop the individual interests on a proper and practical way. But as far as I concern, education should not and could not be specifically designed to cater to the separate needs and interests of each student.

Before considering whether education should be interest-oriented or not, it is necessary to concern the internal meaning about interest at first. How do interests be discerned? By people's close touch【close touch什么意思呀？既然提出，应该解释一下。】. How do they develop? By people's close touch. Or even how do they disappear? Still by people's close touch. Experiences tell us that only when an individual get in touch with some field, he or she would be possibly realize whether he or she is interested in it or not. Any announcements such as "I am crazily interested in math" or "I would never ever study any math" would be not reasonable until the individual reads some math books or listens to some lectures on math. Otherwise, even after a student concentrate on what he or she formally thought to be interesting for some time, it is entirely possible for him or her to abandon the originally favorite subject and convert to another. That because no experience, no right to say. As a result of the variations and uncertainty of interests, it still too early to design education to meet the individual needs and interests.

luckychinaUID: 2131861

谢谢norman，我是想表达只有通过学生自己近距离的接触某一领域，才能够确定是不是自己的兴趣所在。但不知道“近距离的接触”怎么说呢？~~

norman518UID: 188582

Nowadays, the criteria of an effective education is far more than only to teach 【people】how to read and write, but to incite【感觉incite有“煽动做坏事”；想表达“剌激，激励”：spur、catalyze】and develop the individual interests on 【though】a proper and practical way. But as far as I concern, education should not and could not be specifically designed to cater to theseparate needs and interests of each student.
【题目是要求讨论：“教育的有效性”，而你仅仅回应“个性化教育是不可能的”---最多是你的一个分论点吧，并没有明确提出自己的观点TS：什么样的教育是有效的？】

Before【去掉】 considering whether education should be interest-oriented or not, it is necessary to concern the internal meaning about interest at first. How do interests be discerned? By people's close touch【想用close touch诠释interest or hobby，但它是你的key word---什么意思呀？既然提出，应该解释一下。】. How do they develop? By people's close touch. Or even how do they disappear? Still by people's close touch. Experiences tell us that only when an individual get in touch with some field, he or she would be possibly realize whether he or she is interested in it or not. Any announcements such as "I am crazily interested in math" or "I would never ever study any math" would be not reasonable until the individual reads some math books or listens to some lectures on math. Otherwise, even after a student concentrate on what he or she formally thought【reflect比thought更形象、具体】 to be interesting for some time, it is entirely possible for him or her to abandon the originally favorite subject and convert to another【其实，人类是很渺小的哟，他们放弃很多自己的真正需求，甚至“最爱”，并非是经过深思熟虑后发现自己不喜欢，而是迫于环境和外界的压力。】. That because no experience, no right to say. As a result of the variations and uncertainty of interests, it still too early to design education to meet the individual needs and interests.
【B1你想表明的是“孩子在发育期间的不成熟及较大的可塑性决定了，教育不能完全按照他们的兴趣和爱好来安排”---但你过于强调“兴趣和爱好的发展”而展开，没有很好地和（有效的）教育联系上】

Even if education follows the current needs and interests of each students-let alone whether they would remain their needs and interests tomorrow- mere interest-oriented education might extract students from general and well-rounded perspectives of this colorful world【这应该是你的分析吧？没有TS】. In fact, there are a myriad of students who spend their time only on what interests them most and ignore any other boring subjects to them, who seem to have freedom to do 【最好少用抽象词】whatever they like and apparently enjoy a happy life; but only those who are immersed in various kinds of field, whether interesting or not, lead a truly harmony life, not only able to access to a decent position after graduation, but more importantly, to have full insight to the world around them. It is much too late for the former to say that "If only I have learned more other than my interests" when they face the competitive job markets and the complex mundane world. Therefore, to prevent from repeating their tragedy, education ought to provide various kinds of knowledge rather than only to focus on students' interests.
【B2没有TS，行文就比较散，难怪分析不能深入】

Moreover, even if the interest-oriented education is advocated by majority of students and parents, it is still impracticable to require education to be personally designed【好，有明确的TS】, considering the available educational resources. How many students in a university? Many. How many different needs of such students? Many. How many individual interests to those people? Still many. But to so many students’ so many needs and interests, unfortunately, the fact is that teachers are limited, classes are insufficient, and educational equipments are not enough neither. In today's world where there still exist some children too poor to receive education, where there still exist some people too starved to get away, it is impracticable to require interest-oriented education to every students.
【B3的行文9象你的3HOW问句一样，点到及止，没有完全展开。】

After discussing the internal meaning of interests and the results and probabilities of interest-oriented education above【正如你所言：想通过诠释internal meaning of interests而驳斥“个性化教育既不有效也不可行”，however,你对internal meaning of interests没透彻地把握，进而没有把你想表达的将清楚，那就肯定不能有效、有力地进行驳斥。】, we would not blame for education failing to satisfy every student’s demands and interests any longer, for this kind of education is neither ineffective nor impracticable, let alone such is the only method of effective one. Instead, we ought to set up a general-oriented education properly based on majority students’ preference, which is truly effective.

题目说教育只有满足每个学生的需要和兴趣的教育才是真正有效的，我知道关键词在only，但我是想通过说这种教育既不有效也不可行，就更谈不上是有效教育的唯一途径了，这样会不会离题了呢，还是应该说general-oriented教育或其他教育也是有效或更有效呢？~~希望大家猛批~~
【个人认为你的想法没有错，但必须结合题目：
①       作者是想从“个性化教育”为例，引申到讨论“教育的有效性”，什么样的教育是有效的？---出发点很多：教育的目的、功能、方法和手段（个性化教育就只能是教育的一种手段）；当代教育有些什么不足？---如：缺乏个性化发展、不能有效地社会化、不能有效地将个人的兴趣想结合。。。进而提出一些改进和弥补措施。
②       按照你的思路进行论述，我个人认为也是可行的，但要注意：从多个角度看问题，就算要一直驳斥“个性化教育既不有效也不可行”，B3也应该承认其具有一定的合理性，这样才能显示你对该问题有全面、深入的了解，不然会“物极必反”。
③  个人认为：写I的最高境界是---不留痕迹地驳斥对方，不是我有意找茬，而是I的观点太过于无理和荒谬，不驳一下简直天理不容。】

[ 本帖最后由 norman518 于 2007-1-27 10:48 编辑 ]

norman518UID: 188582

给你查到一个，仅供参考：
intimate contact---密切接触

luckychinaUID: 2131861

TO Norman,
谢谢你的认真修改，每次看完你给我改的文章我都会有不少收获呢，尤其是在逻辑推理方面~~
一定好好琢磨，好好修改~~期待你的佳作。


Nowadays, the criteria of an effective education is far more than only to teach 【people】how to read and write, but to incite【感觉incite有“煽动做坏事”；想表达“剌激，激励”：spur、catalyze】and develop the individual interests on 【though】a proper and practical way. But as far as I concern, education should not and could not be specifically designed to cater to the separate needs and interests of each student.【题目是要求讨论：“教育的有效性”，而你仅仅回应“个性化教育是不可能的”---最多是你的一个分论点吧，并没有明确提出自己的观点TS：什么样的教育是有效的？】
恩，norman一语中的阿~~
改：education is ineffective when specifically designed to cater to the separate needs and interests of each student, let alone the impracticability of such education.
不过还有个问题，行文时应该从哪个层面回答呢：
1。是不是有效？(有效性)
2．是不是只有这样才有效？（唯一性）
3．什么样的真正有效?



Before【去掉】 considering whether education should be interest-oriented or not, it is necessary to concern the internal meaning about interest at first. How do interests be discerned? By people's close touch【想用close touch诠释interest or hobby，但它是你的key word---什么意思呀？既然提出，应该解释一下。】.对，The interest is defined as…(这个~~待查) How do they develop? By people's intimate contact. Or even how do they disappear? Still by people's intimate contact. Experiences tell us that only when an individual get in touch with some field, he or she would be possibly realize whether he or she is interested in it or not. Any announcements such as "I am crazily interested in math" or "I would never ever study any math" would be not reasonable until the individual reads some math books or listens to some lectures on math. Otherwise, even after a student concentrate on what he or she formally thought【reflect比thought更形象、具体】 to be interesting for some time, it is entirely possible for him or her to abandon the originally favorite subject and convert to another【其实，人类是很渺小的哟，他们放弃很多自己的真正需求，甚至“最爱”，并非是经过深思熟虑后发现自己不喜欢，而是迫于环境和外界的压力。】.恩，灰常有道理哦~~ That because no experience, no right to say. As a result of the variations and uncertainty of interests, it still too early to design education to meet the individual needs and interests.
【B1你想表明的是“孩子在发育期间的不成熟及较大的可塑性决定了，教育不能完全按照他们的兴趣和爱好来安排”---但你过于强调“兴趣和爱好的发展”而展开，没有很好地和（有效的）教育联系上】 B1 段末总结一句，和effective education联系上：
Therefore, if children only concentrate on maybe no more than some contemporarily interesting things and then find it hard to intrigue themselves no longer later, the children would be unfortunate; if education is generally based on, or even exclusively focuses on interests of those immature children confronted everything with uncertainty, the education would be ineffective, or in other words, a failure.



Moreover, education which is interest-oriented is not effective enough to imbue students with general necessary knowledge. Even if it follows the current needs and interests of each students-let alone whether they would remain their needs and interests tomorrow- mere interest-oriented education might extract students from general and well-rounded perspectives of this colorful world【这应该是你的分析吧？没有TS】. It is said that students could be divided into two classes: first, those who spend their time only on what interests them most and ignore any other boring subjects to them; second, those who are immersed in various kinds of field, whether interesting or not. Among them, the former are the majorities. They seem to have opportunities to do what they like and apparently enjoy a happy life. But Fortune's favorite children are none other than the second class. Their life is a natural harmony, not only able to access to a decent position after graduation, but more importantly, to have full insight to the world around them. It is much too late for the first class to say that "If only I have learned more other than my interests" when they face the competitive job markets and the complex mundane world. Therefore, to prevent from repeating their tragedy, education ought to provide various kinds of knowledge rather than only to focus on students' interests.【B2没有TS，行文就比较散，难怪分析不能深入】


Moreover, even if the interest-oriented education is advocated by majority of students and parents, it is still impracticable to require education to be personally designed【好，有明确的TS】, considering the available educational resources. How many students in a university? Many. How many different needs of such students? Many. How many individual interests to those people? Still many. But to so many students’ so many needs and interests, unfortunately, the fact is that teachers are limited, classes are insufficient, and educational equipments are not enough neither. In today's world where there still exist some children too poor to receive education, where there still exist some people too starved to get away, it is impracticable to require interest-oriented education to every students.【B3的行文9象你的3HOW问句一样，点到及止，没有完全展开。】
Norman说到我的要害了，但一时还是不知道如何才能展开呢~~




After discussing the internal meaning of interests and the results and probabilities of interest-oriented education above【正如你所言：想通过诠释internal meaning of interests而驳斥“个性化教育既不有效也不可行”，however,你对internal meaning of interests没透彻地把握，进而没有把你想表达的将清楚，那就肯定不能有效、有力地进行驳斥。】嗯，what is interest indeed? That is a question,待我查查, we would not blame for education failing to satisfy every student’s demands and interests any longer, for this kind of education is neither ineffective nor impracticable, let alone such is the only method of effective one. Instead, we ought to set up a general-oriented education properly based on majority students’ preference, which is truly effective.
题目说教育只有满足每个学生的需要和兴趣的教育才是真正有效的，我知道关键词在only，但我是想通过说这种教育既不有效也不可行，就更谈不上是有效教育的唯一途径了，这样会不会离题了呢，还是应该说general-oriented教育或其他教育也是有效或更有效呢？~~希望大家猛批~~
【个人认为你的想法没有错，但必须结合题目：①       作者是想从“个性化教育”为例，引申到讨论“教育的有效性”，什么样的教育是有效的？---出发点很多：教育的目的、功能、方法和手段（个性化教育就只能是教育的一种手段）；当代教育有些什么不足？---如：缺乏个性化发展、不能有效地社会化、不能有效地将个人的兴趣想结合。。。进而提出一些改进和弥补措施。②       按照你的思路进行论述，我个人认为也是可行的，但要注意：从多个角度看问题，就算要一直驳斥“个性化教育既不有效也不可行”，B3也应该承认其具有一定的合理性，这样才能显示你对该问题有全面、深入的了解，不然会“物极必反”。③  个人认为：写I的最高境界是---不留痕迹地驳斥对方，不是我有意找茬，而是I的观点太过于无理和荒谬，不驳一下简直天理不容。】妙~~慢慢体会~~

lalahUID: 2215160

很多人改了51，我改5吧~