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In this argument, the author considers that honor codes similar to Groveton’s should be adopted by colleges and universities for dealing with the cheating among their students. To support his standpoint, the author cites the fact that the cases of cheating declined when the universities implemented the honor code. The author also cites a survey of some students who argued that the honor code induces them hardly to cheat. At first glance, the argument might be somehow reasonable, but further consideration reveals that it contains several logical flaws and is therefore unconvincing as it stands.

First, the declined number of cheating among the colleges does not indicate that Groveton’s honor code is successful after replacing an old-fashioned system. Perhaps these institutions carried out a series of measures to help their students cultivate sincerity. Or perhaps the performance of Groveton's honor code is failed at all. The author overlooks other possible reasons which cause the declined cases of cheating. Without clear and sufficient evidence, the author does not conclude that the new Groveton's honor code is a better way than old rules. On the other hand, the number of cheating cases is a mean value in old-fashioned but an immediate value in new system. Perhaps the cases of cheating were always low in the past years, but suddenly got a high number in one year because some subject was too difficult to get a pass, so that some students had to use some opportunistic method to tackle the exam. So the contrast can’t be supported the conclusion that honor code is better than old rules.

Secondly, the survey of a majority of students claimed that they wouldn’t be cheat with an honor code in place than without is lace of representativeness. The part of students can’t substitute all of the students. The cheating takes place in a minority of students after all, the survey may just investigate some un-cheating students, and they answer the questionnaire by imagination without their own experience. Thus, if the new system is not well accepted by the students in the universities, or is not well affected the students, the author’s advice will make no effect to ameliorate the rising number of cheating cases.

To sum up, the author does not convince me to accept the Groveton's honor code but not old rules. A detailed contrast of cases of cheating between two systems should be explained including reason of the cheating cases, the framework of the cheating students and so on, the reason of the decline of cases of cheating. The author also should survey the students who have cheated in the past and ask them to evaluate the new honor code if it can help them to modify their conduct at all.

用时3小时。借助了几句argument模板,例如开头。用金山词霸查了单词。用word改正了小绿线小红线。其余的原模原样,是俺的真实水平了。456个字,是俺的极限了。若干的语法错误,俺也做好心里准备了。总之,大家尽情的PIA吧。让满篇红来得更猛烈些吧。虽然跟斑斑请了假,但是到底作业还是交迟了,对不住大家了。

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本帖最后由 ddcmj519 于 2009-3-12 18:31 编辑

以下修改仅根据个人见解,有异议的话,咱再讨论讨论~共同进步哈~


In this argument, the author considers that honor codes similar好像原文没这个意思额 to Groveton’s should be adopted by colleges and universities to deal with the cheating among their students. To support his standpoint, the author cites the fact that the cases of cheating declined when the universities implemented the honor code.不错~ The author also cites重复用的感觉就一般了 a survey of some students who argued不妥acclaim that the honor code induces them hardly to cheat.At first glance, the argument might be somehow reasonable, but further consideration reveals that it contains several logical flaws and is therefore unconvincing as it stands.这句。咳~模板气息强烈~~而且字号小了一截。。我就不揭穿了~~


First, the declined number of cheating among the colleges does not indicate that Groveton’s honor code is successful after replacing an old-fashioned system. Perhaps these institutions carried out a series of measures to help their students cultivate sincerity. Or perhaps the performance of Groveton's honor code is failed at all. 没看懂前两句啥意思- -The author overlooks other possible reasons which cause the declined cases of cheating. Without clear and sufficient evidence, the author does not conclude that the new Groveton's honor code is a better way than old rules. On the other hand, the number of cheating cases is a mean value in old-fashioned but an immediate value in new system. Perhaps the cases of cheating were always low in the past years, but suddenly got a high number in one year because some subject was too difficult to get a pass, so that some students had to use some opportunistic method to tackle the exam. So the contrast can’t be supported the conclusion that honor code is better than old rules. 前半截没说清楚。其实个人觉得Argument的错误经常就是论断的太仓促,而同学你这段的前半段也是仓促的给可能性,而且你所列举的可能性都只是范范而谈,比如Or perhaps the performance of Groveton's honor code is failed at all. 你的这个推断也应该有源有汇。上来就说他不好,总得给个原因吧~后面对contrast的反驳还是比较有见地滴~具体具体的反驳才是有力的吧~综上,我觉得以上段只有后半部分是有效地得分段~



Secondly, the survey of a majority of students claimed that they wouldn’t be cheat with an honor code in place than without is lace of representativeness. The part of students can’t substitute all of the students. The cheating takes place in a minority of students after all, the survey may just investigate some un-cheating students, and they answer the questionnaire by imagination without their own experience. Thus, if the new system is not well accepted by the students in the universities, or is not well affected the students, the author’s advice will make no effect to ameliorate the rising number of cheating cases.前面写的很好哇~但是这个结尾总结有点奇怪喂。之前是要说这个survey不是很有效,结尾咋又变成学生接不接受honor codes了呢?


To sum up, the author does not convince me to accept the Groveton's honor code but not old rules. A detailed contrast of cases of cheating between two systems should be explained including reason of the cheating cases, the framework of the cheating students and so on, the reason of the decline of cases of cheating 这个位置不对吧,and so on 后面还接?. The author also should survey the students who have cheated in the past and ask them to evaluate the new honor code if it can help them to modify their conduct at all. 这个结尾句有点突然。个人感觉。



总的说来,攻击点不够哇,我隐隐有种感觉觉得楼主是不是没有仔细审题哇。还是只是有些表达用的不太对。改完了,我就在你这里总结下吧~开头结尾就不说了。看下来,这个题目一共三个点。1.报告作弊数(老政策的数据仅1年,新的5年只给总的,中间可能有变化,数字下降但不排除学生总人数也下降的可能,学生适应政策后相互包庇不报告了,高科技,学生素质也可能提高数字自然下降)2.调查(大多数人都不作弊的,学生会自己做得调查不可信,在做调查的时候大家都不一定坦诚,调查仅关照签不签honor codes不具说明性)3.推荐其他采用(情况不一样,缺少对其他学校情况的了解而武断下结论)



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让楼主失望了~不是满篇红诶~~;P
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Inthis argument, the author considers that honor codes similar toGroveton’s should be adopted by colleges and universities for dealingwith the cheating among their students. To support his standpoint, theauthor cites the fact that the cases of cheating declined when theuniversities implemented the honor code. The author also cites a surveyof some students who argued that the honor code induces them hardly tocheat. Atfirst glance, the argument might be somehow reasonable, but furtherconsideration reveals that it contains several logical flaws and istherefore unconvincing as it stands.

First,the declined number of cheating among the colleges does not indicatethat Groveton’s honor code is successful after replacing anold-fashioned system. Perhaps these institutions carried out a seriesof measures to help their students cultivate sincerity. Or perhaps theperformance of Groveton's honor code is failed at all.(这句觉得有点别扭,太极端了) The authoroverlooks other possible reasons which cause the declined cases ofcheating. Without clear and sufficient evidence, the author does not (貌似用can't或者could‘t 比较好)conclude that the new Groveton's honor code is a better way than oldrules. On the other hand, the number of cheating cases is a mean valuein old-fashioned but an immediate value in new system. Perhaps thecases of cheating were always low in the past years, but suddenly got ahigh number in one year because some subject was too difficult to get apass, so that some students had to use some opportunistic method totackle the exam.例子挺好 So the contrast can’t be supported 这个应该是主动把 the conclusion thathonor code is better than old rules.

Secondly,the survey of a majority of students claimed that they wouldn’t becheat with an honor code in place than without is lace   什么意思俄。。 ofrepresentativeness. The part of students can’t substitute all of thestudents. The cheating takes place in a minority of students after all,the survey may just investigate some un-cheating students, and theyanswer the questionnaire by imagination without their own experience.有道理 Thus, if the new system is not well accepted by the students in theuniversities, or is not well affected the students, the author’s advicewill make no effect to ameliorate the rising number of cheating cases.

Tosum up, the author does not convince me to accept the Groveton's honorcode but not old rules. A detailed contrast of cases of cheatingbetween two systems should be explained including reason of thecheating cases, the framework of the cheating students and so on, thereason of the decline of cases of cheating. The author also shouldsurvey the students who have cheated in the past and ask them toevaluate the new honor code if it can help them to modify their conductat all.


感觉还好吧,分析得还蛮有力的,就是字数可能有些不够,需要加强了,这个跟我差不多,呵呵~~
楼上的总结很强大了,我就不再多说了,一起加油吧~

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In this argument, the author considers that honor codes similar to Groveton’s should be adopted by colleges and universities for dealing with the cheating among their students. To support his standpoint, the author cites the fact that the cases of cheating declined when the universities(好像就Groveton自己实行了这种制度吧,没有说其他学校也采用了这种制度并且取得了成绩) implemented the honor code. The author also cites(可以换个词) a survey of some students who argued that the honor code induces them hardly to cheat. At first glance, the argument might be somehow reasonable, but further consideration reveals that it contains several logical flaws and is therefore unconvincing as it stands. (先罗列要攻击的点,下文逐一攻击,挺好的)
First, the declined number of cheating among the colleges does not indicate that Groveton’s honor code is successful after replacing an old-fashioned system. (同上一段的问题,我觉得不是其他学校也采用了这种制度) Perhaps these institutions carried out a series of measures to help their students cultivate sincerity. Or perhaps the performance of Groveton's honor code is failed at all.(failed at all太严重,毕竟declined number摆在那里) The author overlooks other possible reasons which cause the declined cases of cheating.(可以罗列一些可能性,这样篇幅就长了) Without clear and sufficient evidence, the author does not conclude (could not conclude?) that the new Groveton's honor code is a better way than old rules. On the other hand, the number of cheating cases is a mean value in old-fashioned but an immediate value in new system. (不太懂这句话) Perhaps the cases of cheating were always low in the past years, but suddenly got a high number in one year because some subject was too difficult to get a pass, so that some students had to use some opportunistic method to tackle the exam. So(As a result?) the contrast can’t be supported the conclusion that honor code is better than old rules.

Secondly, the survey of a majority of students claimed that they wouldn’t be cheat with an honor code in place than without is lace of representativeness. The part of students can’t substitute all of the students. The cheating takes place in a minority of students after all, the survey may just investigate some un-cheating students, and they answer the questionnaire by imagination without their own experience. Thus, if the new system is not well accepted by the students in the universities, or is not well affected the students, the author’s advice will make no effect to ameliorate the rising number of cheating cases.( 这一段论证的不错,不过最后一句觉得应该突出new system很可能不能被全部或那些作弊的一小部分学生认可,或不恩能影响他们。)
To sum up, the author does not convince me to accept the Groveton's honor code but not old rules. A detailed contrast of cases of cheating between two systems should be explained including reason of the cheating cases, the framework of the cheating students and so on, the reason of the decline of cases of cheating. The author also should survey the students who have cheated in the past and ask them to evaluate the new honor code if it can help them to modify their conduct at all.
这篇文章感觉思路比较清晰,论证也不错,但是篇幅略短了一点,是不是在加一段论证一下别的方面比较好,这样字数也上去了。
这两天有点事直到今天才改真是不好意思,看到楼主给我改的文章了,改得很认真,意见也很中肯,谢谢!我会向大家学习努力改正的!

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发表于 2009-5-28 03:37:59 |显示全部楼层
:$比我写的好很多 准备在2天内写第一篇A
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