在国内自学英美法的教材

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Cometous看来被批得体无完肤呀，哈哈，囧呀...

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别整天靠着几个马甲蹦来蹦去了，真丢人。

自学的效果如何跟个人能力有很大关系，能否达到JD和LLB的效果因人而异。

自己不下功夫看教材和案例，指望英美的法学院的老师能跟大陆似的填鸭一样的教学，纯属做梦，就算在英美法学院读书不拿出80%以上的时间自学，拿出上百万的人民币去英美烧也白搭。

实践是检验真理的标准，等你们去英美法学院读书时就知道我说正确了。

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cometous 同学逻辑越发混乱了。。。呵呵

大家就事论事，何必以臆测（“靠着几个马甲”）来攻击别人呢？

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多看多写
节俭的D同学 发表于 2009-5-12 23:55

推荐多读多看的网站和书吧。。
感觉麦克米伦那套写的有点乱。。。

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cometous 同学逻辑越发混乱了。。。呵呵

大家就事论事，何必以臆测（“靠着几个马甲”）来攻击别人呢？
bonsmots 发表于 2009-5-13 18:29

把我的经典发言多拜读几遍就不觉得乱了。

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一位前几年从康奈尔JD毕业的师兄讲，不要认为美国学习法律很神秘，四项英语能力中，阅读最重要，听力其次。无论上课表现怎样，其实是最终考试成绩决定一切。上课积极的学生，有时提的问题很傻的。毕竟以前没有学过法律。大课堂上课老师也不可能认识每个人，课堂上感觉和中国差不多。重要的是要读得懂，国内已经引进了一些教材，花时间的话，不会差多少。

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我否定通过阅读自学法律的绝对重要性大部分是来源于切身经验，和认为在美国学法律是否神秘没有关系。这个话题中潜在的论点冲突出自不同人对法学院学习效果期待的不同。如果纯粹是为了在试卷拿个好看的成绩，你也许根本不用去上课，在家看书不见得没有成效。如果你学习法律的目的不仅仅停留在试卷上，你就会发现也许课堂上的一个傻问题对你对一个法律问题的理解要比在家啃书本要深刻得多。

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说三点，第一，成绩很重要，尤其是第一年的，因为作为法律人的门槛，成绩被雇主看得较重，尤其在美国。学校的牌牌也很重要，中美在这方面还是有共识的，名牌学校的学生占得优势不小。第二，无论学什么专业，领路人很重要。相当重要。不同的领路人给你呈现出本专业的脉络是不一样的。第三，自学很重要。无论你具有何种优势的资源，将来的成就主要靠你自己。基于上述三点，大家对不同价值的追求，会有自己的看法。不过理还是要辩的，只有越辩才能越明析。

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钱多的花个一两百万RMB去英美顶尖名校读LLB或JD，吃着面包，啃着牛排，喝着咖啡，学习英美法当然好。

钱少的花几百RMB买英美法教材在家自学，吃着馒头，啃着咸菜，喝着白开水，学习英美法也不差。

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很多国内名牌大学法律学生，考研，考司，做律师，找工作比不上有些通过法律本科专业自学考试成才的社会青年。

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《Studying English law with the University of London(External Sytem)》下载

1 Approaching law .
2 English law and English language.  
3 Introduction to the common law system of England & Wales.  
4 English law and the British constitution.
5 English law and the European Union.  
6 Researching English law.
7 The University of London and studying English law or the common law tradition.
The LLB as a Qualifying Law Degree.
law, says the judge as he looks down his nose,
Speaking clearly and most severely,
law is as I've told you before,
law is as you know I suppose,
law is but let me explain it once more,
law is The law.


'What is law?' is not a question that law students tend to think about at the start of their studies. Typically, they just want to get on and learn 'the stuff'. But learning the law may produce some surprises and also, we hope. puzzles and questions. If you pursue these moments of wondering what the taw is all about, then you will become the ideal kind of student - a student with a questioning, critical stance.
One of the first surprises for many law students is to discover how many ordinary everyday life activities amount to legal transactions: offering a pass on a bus or buying a bar of chocolate. law is more pervasive than we normally realise. Is this reassuring or disturbing?
Only a little further on in their studies, students are frequently equally surprised at how 'legal technicalities' may make 'obvious' infringements of law perfectly legal. In Fisher v Bell (1960]1 QB 394 a shopkeeper displayed a flick-knife in his window. The Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act 1959 made it an offence to offer such a knife for sale. Invoking the law of contract. the defendant argued that a display of anything in a shop window was simply an invitation to treat and not 'offering for sale'. indeed, under contract law, it is the customer who makes the offer to buy the knife. Held: The knife was not 'offered for sale '. In interpreting statutes, it is presumed that the draftsmen know technical legal language and so the common law expression was not altered. The defendant won.
Not long after will come the stage where law students find the term 'legal technicality'- along with 'legal loophole' - very irritating expressions used by people who don't understand law. At that point, students have become assimilated into legal culturel They will, in effect, be saying - 'Law is the law'.
We don't want our students to get stuck in this mode! Yes, it's excellent to reach a stage of understanding 'how it works' and to be able to see the difference between an insider's and an understanding of law.
Please go on asking questions. Please keep on wondering about aspects of law that look absurd or contradictory or generally just don't seem to add up.
The subject guides for your courses will offer you many opportunities to explore law's ambiguities and conflicts. The recommended readings (see the course study packs) will take you through these kinds of issues. Be open to exploring the internal dynamics of law.
Don't assume that learning law means learning a set of stock answers ('The law is the law').
Take our law quiz at the end of this chapter. But you probably won't be able to answer it until you have read this whole guide.'

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