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发表于 2009-6-2 05:08:01 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 mqi07 于 2009-6-2 05:10 编辑



173.The following is a memorandum issued by the publisher of a newsmagazine, Newsbeat, in the country of Dinn.


"Our poorest-selling magazine issues over the past three years were those that featured international news stories on their front covers. Over the same period, competing news-magazines have significantly decreased the number of cover stories that they devote to international news. Moreover, the cost of maintaining our foreign bureaus to report on international news is increasing. Therefore, we should decrease our emphasis on international news and refrain from displaying such stories on our magazine covers."



过去三年中我们销量最低的几期杂志是在封面上刊登了国际新闻故事的那几期。在同一时期,与我们竞争的几种新闻刊物显著减少了刊登在封面上的国际新闻数量。而且,我们用于维持国外部报导国际新闻的费用正在增加。因此,我们应该减少对于国际新闻的强调并且避免把这类消息刊登在杂志封面上。



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1.the arguer fails to establish a causal relationship between featuring international news stories and the poor sales of these issues. 影响消费者的因素有很多 有可能是 如 那段时间全国的普遍销量都不好 或者 那几期报道写得的不好,封面不好看(cover design)、新闻质量刊物内容  刊名和口碑  封面设计
也可能 销量下降与这些国家报刊亭的减少有直接关系。 or 便携通讯手段的增加



2.错误类比:没有提供关于N与竞争对手的信息,因此不能够说减少封面是有效地对于N来说。



3.没有足够的信息表明用于国外部报道国际新闻的cost 的增加 一定意味着是增加国际封面造成的。
造成cost增加的原因有很多如很肯能是由于物价的上涨 而造成所有新闻种类报道的花费增加 或者
很有可能是让国际新闻上封面所用的费用 仅占cost中非常小的一部分 可以忽略的一部分  因为 就foreign bureau本身来讲 无论国际新闻是否被采用 甚至上封面  由于涉及到对外是采访 驻外记者 等等 要花费的就已经很高了 所以 不能表明减少其受重视程度和上封面次数就会减少国际部开支

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发表于 2009-6-2 05:15:13 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 mqi07 于 2009-6-2 05:24 编辑

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In this argument, the arguer suggest that the publisher,Newsbeat,should pay less attention to internatinal news and avoid displaying such news on their magazine covers. To support the conclusion, the claims that over the past three years, the poorest-selling magazines were those featured  international news stories on the front
cover. Also, he draw the information about there was a significant decrease in the number of cover stories devoted to international news of the competitive magazines. At the first glance, this argument seems to be somewhat logical and reasonable, however, after a further consideration in details, I cannot agree with it for the
following reasons.

To begin with,  the arguer fails to establish a causal relationship between featuring international news stories and the poor sales of these issues. To find the exact causes of  the poor sales of the magazine, careful examinations should be applied to all the possibilities that have significant impact on circulation. Contingencies such as the popularity, the magazine title, the cover design,  the contants of the magazine can affect the sales and distribution. It is entirely possible that the general sales in the whole nation was depressed over the past three  years, as a result, Newsbeat could not avoid such bad situation. It might also be the case that, the decrease in the sales could attribute to the newsstands' declining, or perhaps the portable means of
communication such as the compuer was becoming more and more popular among the public. If this is the case ,then   the conclusion that the decreaseing sales is caused by the increse of the featuring international news stories would lack any merites whatsoever.

What is more, the author commits a fallacy of faulty analogy in assuming that the argument is based on a false analogy between Newsbeat and its competitors. The author simply assumes that the two would face a completely same situation, but he fails to provide any evidence that is indeed comparable.For instance, it is entirely possible that the competitors are short of funds to continue supporting their foreign bureaus and they have to do this ,in order to save more money for the whole company. Or perhaps, Newsbeat has occupied most part of market share, as a result other similar magazine pulishers have to perform transition(change their
marketing strategy) to seek a way out of the predicament (plight). Therefore, the author cannot get any solid conclusion based on this faulty analogy.

Finally, the arguer assumes that featuring the international news on the front cover will in itself suffice to cause the increase in the cost of maintaining the foreign bureaus. Admittedly, featuring the international news on the front cover might be an important contributing factor;however, it is hardly the sole determining one.  It is entirely possible that the cost of featuring the news on the front cover only accounts for a fairly small part of the whole cost, for the foreign bureaus themselves need large amounts of money, including the payments for the foreign correspondents , the foreign travel expenses.Or perhaps, price increases of the whole society which could
result in  all kinds of news stories' cost rise, including the international news, would play significant role in leading to this increase.

As it stands, the arguer annot warrant his or heri claim on the basis of the scant evidence mentioned in the  argument. To make it more logically acceptable, the arguer must present more facts that can substantiate that the featuring the international news on the front cover  would definitely lead to decreasing sales of the magazine.

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发表于 2009-6-2 15:31:32 |显示全部楼层
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In this argument, the arguer suggest(s) that the publisher, Newsbeat, should pay less attention to internatinal news and avoid displaying such news on their magazine covers. To support the conclusion, the(主语) claims that over the past three years, the poorest-selling magazines were those featured  international news stories on the front cover. Also, he draw the information about there was a significant decrease in the number of cover stories devoted to international news of the competitive magazines. (还有关于费用增加的那点,因为后面攻击了,这应该提出)At the first glance, this argument seems to be somewhat logical and reasonable, however, after a further consideration in details, I cannot agree with it for the following reasons.

To begin with, the arguer fails to establish a causal relationship between featuring international news stories and the poor sales of these issues. To find the exact causes of the poor sales of the magazine, careful examinations should be applied to all the possibilities that have significant impact on circulation. Contingencies such as the popularity, the magazine title, the cover design, (and)the contants of the magazine can affect the sales and distribution. (And,)It is entirely possible that the general sales (of a various magazines) in the whole nation was depressed over the past three years, as a result, Newsbeat could not avoid such bad situation. It might also be the case that, the decrease in the sales could attribute to the newsstands' declining, or perhaps the portable means of communication such as the compuer was becoming more and more popular among the public. If this is the case, then the conclusion that the decreaseing sales is caused by the increase(作者有说是increase吗) of the featuring international news stories would lack any merites whatsoever.

What is more, the author commits a fallacy of faulty analogy in assuming that the argument is based on a false analogy between Newsbeat and its competitors(有点没有读懂). The author simply assumes that the two(别扭,both) would face (suffer)a completely same situation, but he fails to provide any evidence that is indeed comparable. For instance, it is entirely(前面用了后面改个别的,completely, totally) possible that the competitors are short of funds to continue supporting their foreign bureaus and they have to do this(give up, forgo, abandon them) ,in order to save more money for the whole company. Or perhaps, Newsbeat has occupied most part of market share, as a result other similar magazine pulishers have to perform transition (change their marketing strategy) to seek a way out of the predicament (plight). Therefore, the author cannot get any solid conclusion based on this faulty analogy.

Finally, the arguer assumes that featuring the international news on the front cover will in itself suffice to cause the increase in the cost of maintaining the foreign bureaus.(我怎么没有看出作者assume这层因果关系?) Admittedly, featuring the international news on the front cover might be an important contributing factor;however, it is hardly the sole determining one.  It is entirely possible that the cost of featuring the news on the front cover only accounts for a fairly small part of the whole cost, for the foreign bureaus themselves need large amounts of money, including the payments for the foreign correspondents , the foreign travel expenses. Or perhaps, price increases of the whole society which could result in  all kinds of news stories' cost rise, including the international news, would play significant role in leading to this increase.(感觉攻击的不准确…)

As it stands, the arguer cannot warrant his or her claim on the basis of the scant evidence mentioned in the argument. To make it more logically acceptable, the arguer must present more facts that can substantiate that the featuring the international news on the front cover would definitely lead to decreasing sales of the magazine.

写的不错,用词用句很好,从你的文章里学到不少东西。
1.文章有写错误的单词,没有改,建议作者利用word文档自动纠正错误检查一下。
2.橙色是需要和作者讨论的地方。
3.绿色是从作者文章中学到的东西和作者写的好的地方。

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本帖最后由 robotwish 于 2009-6-3 19:33 编辑

In this argument, the arguer suggests that the publisher, Newsbeat, should pay less attention to international news and avoid displaying such news on their magazine covers. To support the conclusion, the claims that over the past three years, the poorest-selling magazines were those featured  international news stories on the front covers. Also, he draw the information about there was a significant decrease in the number of cover stories devoted to international news of the competitive magazines. At the first glance, this argument seems to be somewhat logical and reasonable, however, after a further consideration in details, I cannot agree with it for the following reasons.(模板啊模板,不知道怎么说了,为什么所有人都这个模板呢?)
To begin with,  the arguer fails to establish a causal relationship between featuring international news stories and the poor sales of these issues(magazines). To find the exact causes of  the poor sales of(和前面重复最好换个) the magazine, careful examinations should be applied to all the possibilities that缺个主语吧 have significant impact on circulation. Contingencies such as the popularity, the magazine title, the cover design,  the contents of the magazine can affect the sales and distribution.?什么意思 It is entirely possible that the general sales in the whole nation was(主谓不一致)
depressed over the past three  years, as a result, Newsbeat could not avoid such bad situation. It might also be the case that, the decrease in the sales could be attributed to the newsstands' declining, or perhaps the portable means of communication such as the computer was becoming more and more popular among the public. If this is the case这个和下面什么逻辑关系?看不懂 , then   the conclusion that the decreasing sales is caused by the increase of the featuring international news stories would lack any merits whatsoever.这段总的来说就是用散点
攻击
论据无法证明前提:销量下降。。。足够充分!要说毛病就是可能如果理一下之间的顺序或者说有连接词穿起来,貌似比较好,我也是从北美上看的,不过ETS范文好像没北美那么有条理

What is more, the author commits a fallacy of faulty analogy in assuming that the argument is based on a false analogy between Newsbeat and its competitors. The author simply assumes that the two would face a completely same situation, but he fails to provide any evidence that is indeed comparable. For instance, it is entirely possible that the competitors are short of funds to continue supporting their foreign bureaus and they have to do this是否Chinese English 了点 , in order to save more money for the whole company. Or perhaps, Newsbeat has occupied most part of market share, as a result other similar magazine publishers have to perform transition(change their marketing strategy) to seek a way out of the predicament (plight)这么写可以吗?需要在后面用同一种语言翻译一下吗?我请问. Therefore, the author cannot get any solid conclusion based on this faulty analogy.
错误类比,也很充分


Finally, the arguer assumes that featuring the international news on the front cover will in itself suffice to cause the increase in the cost of maintaining the foreign bureaus. 这个假设我觉得怪怪的,是说国际新闻作为封面导致了花费的增加?别的封面会省钱?Admittedly, featuring the international news on the front cover might be an important contributing factor;(改为逗号应该however, it is hardly the sole determiningCE?) one.  It is entirely possible that the cost of featuring the news on the front cover only accounts for a fairly small part of the whole cost, for the foreign bureaus themselves need large amounts of money, including the payments for the foreign correspondents , the foreign travel expenses. Or perhaps, price increases of the whole society(社会的涨价,应该把of换了
which could result in thatresult in 后面可以加从句吗?我弱弱地问一下 all kinds of news stories' cost rise, including the international news, would play
a significant role in leading to this increase.(
这句话有点乱,主干是price increases play a role in leading to the increase )
这段结构,思路没有太大问题,就是句子表达不了你的意思了

As it stands, the arguer annot warrant his or her claim on the basis of the scant evidence mentioned in the  argument. To make it more logically acceptable, the arguer must present more facts that can substantiate that the featuring the international news on the front cover  would definitely lead to decreasing sales of the magazine.

结合自己提出的问题
1.
是否封面这个逻辑错误一定要指出?

2.
我们假设作者的假设都是按常识去推导?

3.
我们得注意杜绝CEChinese English

我无法拥有这条鱼。

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