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提纲：
1生病和饮食之间未必因果关系 有其他原因：生活习惯，缺乏运动， 基因遗传
2低碳化物含量的食物是当地人的饮食，但未必是所有人所有时候的饮食
  即使承认饮食导致原始人生病，但是未必导致现代人生病
3尽管承认因是导致生病，不能否认专家的观点，可能只是从全国范围来看，未必适合Sauria
4残骸未必有代表性，且发现残骸的时间所作的推论与这篇文章的时间间隔有可能影响

The author insists that it is to be wrong to follow the Sauria's leading nutritional experts' idea that diet high in complex carbohydrates and low in fat is optimal for longevity and health.   To support the conclusion ,the author cites that people in the ancient times had many medical problems .Besides, the author claims that people who have the proposed diet would also have the high incidence of high blood pressure, obesity, and heart disease today .Close scrutiny of the conclusion, however reveals that several hast assumptions the conclusion based are unpersuasive, rendering it convincing.

To begin with ,one threshold problem with the article is that the author might be assigning a false cause to the  disease, otherwise maybe instead some other factors responsible for the diseases. In other words contemporary  things does not mean one cause of the other. Without addressing  such a problem, it is equally possible that other factors are instead responsible for the trends. Common sense tells us that dental problems, elevated blood pressure, obesity, heart disease, and early mortality may be the results of lacking enough exercises, or people’s living habits or some popular  virus. Consequently ,even though the diets make people healthy to some extent ,but people can not escape other possible situations leading to the diseases.

Another fundamental  problem with the  article involves the assumption that people in Sauria only the diets and all people there have such diets. It is entirely possible that the terrible climates as well as the hard environments making  trouble for preparing meals ,drive people to taste other plants and animals ,or though other ways to get normal foods, thus the various diseases may happen .Beside, perhaps the people who get sick are not the people who have such diets, or perhaps only people who have too  much may have such problems .Although people in the ancient times primarily have such meals it does not mean people all have or always have it. Even the diet may do harm to people in the ancient times  ,it is  still   hast to infer that people in nowadays are not suitable to the diets. Maybe the leading experts have already study the differences between people in nowadays and the old days .And people have experienced a long changeability and revolution ,most situations may have changed greatly. It is possible people today have such meals would help for good health and longevity .


Even conceding the harm of diets  leads high incidence of disease in Sauria it does not make sense to deny the experts' ideas .For the report may be renounced to people according to the condition of  all the nation, but may not suitable for some individual places. In other words , The diets may cause diseases for people in Sauria , other parts people may be adapt to it and benefit from it. The results  may come from the differences among places. People’s living habits and diets habits in Sauria are not in accord  with other places, it does not the diets but the habits and other foods lead to the incredibility  in Sauria.

Next ,the last problem involves the representative and the reliability of  mummified remains the conclusion based. Maybe the mummified remains themselves are made by normal committee and lacking enough authority and  unreliability .Besides, we are not informed the time between the article and the study ,the longer time passed, the greater the possibility of its discrimination and bias. Also the amount of remains need to be revealed, or it would not enough to dispel the results made based on the study by experts.

In sum ,the article is flaw in some respects .To better understand the conclusion, the author need to provide information convince us that the diet is the only factor that lead to the disease and precludes other possible situations. To better assess the conclusion ,the author also necessarily to justify that there would be no differences among people in different places after having such meals .Besides ,the author should supply evidence to show us the representative  of the mummified remains in order to strengthen the conclusion.


A za a za, fighting !

smiling-djUID: 182272

个人觉得整个挺条理的。
就提纲来说，重新整理了一下：
1 生病和饮食之间未必因果关系 有其他原因：生活习惯，缺乏运动， 基因遗传
2 即使承认这种饮食导致原始人生病，但是未必导致现代人生病。（错误在于特殊性代表整体性）
3 当地人吃高碳化物含量的食物－>有病，但未必别处吃这种食物的人－>有病。（错误在于区域性代表全局性）

2和 3有些重复，觉得2的前半部分和3是一个意思，可否把2的前半部分移到3？

4不太明白你的意思，感觉论述找的点，有点偏。


The author insists that it is to be wrong to follow the Sauria's leading nutritional experts' idea that diet high in complex carbohydrates and low in fat is optimal for longevity and health.   To support the conclusion ,the author cites that people in the ancient times had many medical problems .Besides, the author claims that people who have the proposed diet would also have the high incidence of high blood pressure, obesity, and heart disease today .Close scrutiny of the conclusion, however reveals that several hast assumptions the conclusion based are unpersuasive, rendering it convincing.

To begin with ,one threshold problem with the article is that the author might be assigning a false cause to the  disease, otherwise maybe instead some other factors responsible for the diseases.（otherwise在这和maybe，是不是取一？） In other words （标点）contemporary  things does not mean one cause of the other. Without addressing  such a problem, it is equally possible that other factors are instead responsible for the trends. Common sense tells us that dental problems, elevated blood pressure, obesity, heart disease, and early mortality may be the results of lacking enough exercises, or（去掉） people’s living habits or some popular  virus. Consequently ,even though the diets make people healthy to some extent ,but people can not escape other possible situations leading to the diseases.

Another fundamental  problem with the  article involves the assumption that people in Sauria only the diets and all people there have such diets. It is entirely possible that the terrible climates as well as the hard environments making  trouble for preparing meals ,drive people to taste other plants and animals ,or though other ways to get normal foods, thus the various diseases may happen .Beside, perhaps the people who get sick are not the people who have such diets, or perhaps only people who have too  much may have such problems .Although people in the ancient times primarily have such meals it does not mean people all have or always have it. Even the diet may do harm to people in the ancient times  ,it is  still   hast to infer that people in nowadays are not suitable to the diets. Maybe the leading experts have already study the differences between people in nowadays and the old days .And people have experienced a long changeability and revolution ,most situations may have changed greatly. It is possible people today have such meals would help for good health and longevity .


Even conceding the harm of diets  leads high incidence of disease in Sauria it does not make sense to deny the experts' ideas .For the report may be renounced to people according to the condition of  all the nation, but may not suitable for some individual places. In other words , The diets may cause diseases for people in Sauria , other parts people may be adapt to it and benefit from it. The results  may come from the differences among places. People’s living habits and diets habits in Sauria are not in accord  with other places, it does（is） not the diets but the habits and other foods lead to the incredibility  in Sauria.

Next ,the last problem involves the representative and the reliability （and前后成分一样）of  mummified remains the conclusion based. Maybe the mummified remains themselves are made by normal committee and lacking enough authority and  unreliability .Besides, we are not informed the time between the article and the study ,the longer time passed, the greater the possibility of its discrimination and bias. Also the amount of remains need to be revealed, or it would not enough to dispel the results made based on the study by experts.

In sum ,the article is flaw（词性？） in some respects .To better understand the conclusion, the author need to provide information convince us that the diet is the only factor that lead to the disease and precludes other possible situations. To better assess the conclusion ,the author also necessarily to justify that there would be no differences among people in different places after having such meals .Besides ,the author should supply evidence to show us the representative  of the mummified remains in order to strengthen the conclusion.

[ 本帖最后由 smiling-dj 于 2006-2-15 19:42 编辑 ]