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51"Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student."

主题：一个教育体系有效率与否主要是看它能否恰当的履行它的责任，即能否为社会培养有用的人才。
B1: 教育应该满足学生的需要，做到因材施教
B2:但是教育不能一味的满足学生，要加以适当的管制，从而使得社会更协调。
B3:教育应该为社会培养全面发展的人才，不能只局限于学生的兴趣，那样会限制他们的视野。
结论
How to judge the effectiveness of education, is the one specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student an effective one, as the speaker asserts? As far as I am concerned, to evaluate whether a system is effective or not, one should see that how well the system fulfills its responsibility. So, we can allege education, which shoulders the responsibility of cultivating the youth of a nation, to be truly effective only when it meets the duty placed on it.

On the one hand, an education system which takes no account of individual needs and interests cannot be an effective one. Since students are the most significant ring in the chain of education, and the most immediate test paper to evaluate the success of education, their interests should be involved in the process of education. Einstein once said(and I paraphrase): Interest is the best teacher. Without interests, one cannot exert his or her potential. Think a student who is interested in physics, is compelled to study literature, unwillingly, against with his or her interests. This kind of education not only kills a gifted physicist, but also breeds a third-class litterateur. Without concerning individual needs and interests, education tends to turn genius in a particular field to mediocrity in another. How can one expect such education to be effective?

On the second hand, effective education should not overemphasize the importance of meeting the students' needs, but regulate these needs and interests according to the needs of society. Education designed always according to students' inclination will cause the society to an unbalanced one. Most students, except those definitely know what interests them, have no strong idea where their interests is; They choose their major mainly on some practical needs, say, the relative easiness in finding job, and high wages, etc. Holding these practicalities in mind, students are more inclined to choose computer science as there major. If education meets their needs indiscriminatively, the job market will be in a state of oversaturation, teemed with numerous graduates holding the diploma of Computer with little hope to find a job, even a low-waged one.     

Last but not least, effective education should be designed to provide the society with all-around people. Education should not only provide courses according to students’ needs and interests, but  also those help to build their personalities. A chemistry student should attend some courses on environmental conservation, and biologists and geneticist should receive some education on moral and ethical concepts, no matter whether their interests are on these or not. To ensure the society develop well, students, regardless what are their majors, must learn some compulsory courses to be all-around social beings, such as history, mathematics, writings, etc. Education which is specially designed to individual needs and interests will narrow students’ view, harm the progress of the whole society.

From what has been discussed above, education should take account of individual needs and interests, to cultivate students according to their own will. However, since education serves for providing well-rounded students to society, it should adapt the needs and interests of students to those of society, and offer some compulsory courses to all of its students. Only after meeting these requests can an education system be alleged an effective one.

[ Last edited by staralways on 2005-6-28 at 01:02 ]

小玩UID: 2111777

How to judge the effectiveness of education, is the one specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student an effective one, as the speaker asserts? As far as I am concerned, to evaluate whether a system is effective or not, one should see that删 how well the system fulfills its responsibility. So, we can allege education, which shoulders the responsibility of cultivating the youth of a nation, to be truly effective only when it meets the duty placed on it.

On the one hand, an education system which takes no account of individual needs and interests cannot be an effective one. Since students are the most significant ring in the chain of education, and the most immediate test paper to evaluate the success of education, their interests should be involved in the process of education. Einstein once said(and I paraphrase): Interest is the best teacher. Without interests, one cannot exert his or her potential. Think suppose a student who is interested in physics, is compelled to study literature, unwillingly, against with删 his or her interests. This kind of education not only kills a gifted physicist, but also breeds a third-class litterateur. 太绝对，表达出“可能”的意思要好一些 Without concerning individual needs and interests, education tends to turn genius in a particular field to mediocrity in another.写得好！ How can one expect such education to be effective?

On the second hand, on the other hand，好像是固定搭配哟 effective education should not overemphasize the importance of meeting the students' needs, but regulate these needs and interests according to the needs of society. Education designed always always designed according to students' inclination will cause the society to an unbalanced one. Most students, except those definitely know what interests them, have no strong idea where their interests is; They choose their major mainly on some practical needs, say, the relative easiness in finding job, and high wages, etc. Holding these practicalities pragmatism in mind, students are more inclined to choose computer science as there major. If education meets their needs indiscriminatively, the job market will be in a state of oversaturation, teemed with numerous graduates holding the diploma of Computer with little hope to find a job, even a low-waged one.     

Last but not least, effective education should be designed to provide the society with all-around people. Education should not only provide courses according to students’ needs and interests, but also those helping to build their personalities. A chemistry student should attend some courses on environmental conservation, and biologists and geneticist should receive some education on moral and ethical concepts, no matter whether their interests are on these or not in spite of their interests，简结点. To ensure the society develop well, students, regardless what are their majors regardless of their majors, must learn some compulsory courses to be all-around social beings, such as history, mathematics, writings, etc. Education which is specially designed to individual needs and interests will narrow students’ view, harm impede the progress of the whole society.

From what has been discussed above, education should take account of individual needs and interests, to cultivate students according to their own will. However, since education serves for providing well-rounded students to society, it should adapt the needs and interests of students to those of society, and offer some compulsory courses to all of its students. Only after meeting these requests can an education system be alleged an effective one.

偶是新手，作文时间和你差不多，进来改一下~
说一下总的感受吧
1 论点没啥问题，但感觉展开不够（偶也为这个苦恼ing~）；
2 语言还有待提高，句型和用词（偶自己这方面也差），有些句子读起来很别扭，又不知道怎么给你改；

有空也帮忙看看我的，谢谢：
https://bbs.gter.net/viewthre ... type%26typeid%3D101

ZEALPALADINUID: 192560

51"Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student."

主题：一个教育体系有效率与否主要是看它能否恰当的履行它的责任，即能否为社会培养有用的人才。
B1: 教育应该满足学生的需要，做到因材施教
B2:但是教育不能一味的满足学生，要加以适当的管制，从而使得社会更协调。
B3:教育应该为社会培养全面发展的人才，不能只局限于学生的兴趣，那样会限制他们的视野。
结论
How to judge the effectiveness of education, is the one specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student an effective one, as the speaker asserts? As far as I am concerned, to evaluate whether a system is effective or not, one should see that how well the system fulfills its responsibility. So, we can allege education, which shoulders the responsibility of cultivating the youth of a nation, to be truly effective only when it meets the duty placed on it.个人认为，楼主的开头有值得学习的地方，也有需要斟酌的地方。在提出观点时明确to evaluate...effective or not是非常好的尝试，对题目作出了有力的回应，但不足的是楼主并未紧跟题目所提出的need and interest，而是提出了一个很模糊的duty的概念，看下面了

On the one hand, an education system which takes no account of individual needs and interests cannot be an effective one. Since students are the most significant ring in the chain of education, and the most immediate test paper to evaluate the success of education, their interests should be involved in the process of education. Einstein once said(and I paraphrase): Interest is the best teacher. Without interests, one cannot exert his or her potential. Think a student who is interested in physics, is compelled to study literature, unwillingly, against with his or her interests. This kind of education not only kills a gifted physicist, but also breeds a third-class litterateur. Without concerning individual needs and interests, education tends to turn genius in a particular field to mediocrity in another. How can one expect such education to be effective?Einstein的例子不错，但有个问题，即楼主本段讨论的是insterest，没提need啊，个人认为题目中need interest分开来提，写作时是不是应该也分开来论述下呢？至少TS中有need，但论证中没有提到

On the second hand有这种用法么？ effective education should not overemphasize the importance of meeting the students' needs, but regulate these needs and interests according to the needs of society. Education designed always according to students' inclination will cause the society to an unbalanced one. Most students, except those definitely know what interests them, have no strong idea where their interests is; They choose their major mainly on some practical needs, say, the relative easiness in finding job, and high wages, etc. Holding these practicalities in mind, students are more inclined to choose computer science as there major. If education meets their needs indiscriminatively, the job market will be in a state of oversaturation, teemed with numerous graduates holding the diploma of Computer withttle hope to find a job, even a low-waged one.这段的问题我觉得还是楼主没有把需要和兴趣分开，实用性是一种需要，而兴趣是另外一回事，楼主如果要说教师有责任培养学生的兴趣话，那将是一个很好的切入点

Last but not least, effective education should be designed to provide the society with all-around people. Education should not only provide courses according to students’ needs and interests, but  also those help to build their personalities. A chemistry student should attend some courses on environmental conservation, and biologists and geneticist should receive some education on moral and ethical concepts, no matter whether their interests are on these or not. To ensure the society develop well, students, regardless what are their majors, must learn some compulsory courses to be all-around social beings, such as history, mathematics, writings, etc. Education which is specially designed to individual needs and interests will narrow students’ view, harm the progress of the whole society. 本段楼主说的实际上就是学生的需要，有了这些必须的东西，学生才能成为全面有用的人才之类的，但需要在开头的TS中明确一下。

From what has been discussed above, education should take account of individual needs and interests, to cultivate students according to their own will. However, since education serves for providing well-rounded students to society, it should adapt the needs and interests of students to those of society, and offer some compulsory courses to all of its students. Only after meeting these requests can an education system be alleged an effective one.我觉得本篇文章的一个主要问题就是没有把学生的需要和兴趣分开来说一下。我对文章另外一个方面的理解就是教育者有没有责任去决定什么才是学生应该掌握的，除了需要及兴趣的因素。上面主要是挑刺，楼主的语言还是不错的，加油！

conquer0824UID: 2102638

to 小玩

1 论点没啥问题，但感觉展开不够（偶也为这个苦恼ing~）；

是的啊，写的时候总不知道说什么，局限在一个小的范围内反复说，郁闷ing.

2 语言还有待提高，句型和用词（偶自己这方面也差），有些句子读起来很别扭，又不知道怎么给你改；

语言好多是自己编的，从中文生生的翻译成英文，不知道老外看不看得懂，还是独得少了，好多语言都不会用

谢谢修改，共同努力。

conquer0824UID: 2102638

但不足的是楼主并未紧跟题目所提出的need and interest，而是提出了一个很模糊的duty的概念，

这里想说任何一个体系只有当很好地履行自己的责任时才算得上是effective，duty 主要是对应上面说得responsibility，不过可能没有很好的与题目联系起来，又跑题之嫌。

但有个问题，即楼主本段讨论的是insterest，没提need啊，个人认为题目中need interest分开来提，写作时是不是应该也分开来论述下呢？至少TS中有need，但论证中没有提到

这里好像分得不是很清，我认为实行渠导致需要，有了兴趣必然就有了想学习的需要，如果分开些是不是太麻烦了，支持的要写兴趣和需要两点，不支持的也要写需要和兴趣亮点。

楼主如果要说教师有责任培养学生的兴趣话，那将是一个很好的切入点

这一段从平衡社会来说需要社会的管制一下，不能随着学生的性子，其实你说的培养兴趣也是regulate的一部分，可以加到里面，谢谢提供。

本段楼主说的实际上就是学生的需要，有了这些必须的东西，学生才能成为全面有用的人才之类的，但需要在开头的TS中明确一下。

我觉得这里并不是学生的需要，而是社会的需要，是为了社会很好的全面的发展的需要。

我对文章另外一个方面的理解就是教育者有没有责任去决定什么才是学生应该掌握的，除了需要及兴趣的因素。

你是找的他因法吗？还是从教育者的角度来说，到底什么样的教育才算是effective,满足学生需要兴趣，不满足学生需要兴趣，或者其他的什么。

ZEALPALADINUID: 192560

关于最后的问题，我觉得教育者作为教育中的执行者，起着很重要的作用，那么他的作用到底体现在哪里？迎合还是培养学生的兴趣，帮助学生确定方向（这个是否定题目观点的）？很值得探讨

fatluoUID: 191214

How to judge the effectiveness of education, is the one specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student an effective one, as the speaker asserts?（这句话我看了好久才知道你想说的什么意思。主要问题是“the one"指代不名，前面没有出现任何的名词，你应该变成”the way to judge---is the one ---"才比较通顺吧）  
As far as I am concerned, to evaluate whether a system is effective or not, one should see that how well the system fulfills its responsibility. （这句话没有回答任何问题吧，其实教育的责任就是文章探讨的范畴之一啊）
So, we can allege education, which shoulders the responsibility of cultivating the youth of a nation, to be truly effective only when it meets the duty placed on it.
（其实破题的时候就应该破到教育的责任是满足个人需要还是其他的，至少是一个需要讨论的，结果你提出这个更模糊的概念，不是越跑越远了吗？）
On the one hand, an education system which takes no account of individual needs and interests cannot be an effective one.Since students are the most significant ring in the chain of education, and the most immediate test paper to evaluate the success of education, their interests should be involved in the process of education. Einstein once said(and I paraphrase): Interest is the best teacher. Without interests, one cannot exert his or her potential.
Think（Consider,for instance 这样好象规范些，我也不确定，主要是我好象从来没有见过think这种用法） a student who is interested in physics, is compelled to study literature, unwillingly, against with his or her interests. This kind of education not only kills a gifted physicist, but also breeds a third-class litterateur. Without concerning individual needs and interests, education tends to turn genius in a particular field to mediocrity in another. How can one expect such education to be effective?

On the second hand, effective education should not overemphasize the importance of meeting the students' needs, but regulate these needs and interests according to the needs of society. Education designed always according to students' inclination will cause the society to an unbalanced one. Most students, except those definitely know what interests them, have no strong idea where their interests is（are）;
They choose their major mainly on some practical needs, say, the relative easiness in finding job, and high wages, etc. Holding these practicalities in mind, students are more inclined to choose computer science as there major. If education meets their needs indiscriminatively, the job market will be in a state of oversaturation, teemed with numerous graduates holding the diploma of Computer with little hope to find a job, even a low-waged one.     

Last but not least, effective education should be designed to provide the society with all-around people. Education should not only provide courses according to students’ needs and interests, but  also those help to build their personalities. A chemistry student should attend some courses on environmental conservation, and biologists and geneticist should receive some education on moral and ethical concepts, no matter whether their interests are on these or not. To ensure the society develop well, students, regardless what are their majors, must learn some compulsory courses to be all-around social beings, such as history, mathematics, writings, etc. Education which is specially designed to individual needs and interests will narrow students’ view, harm the progress of the whole society.

From what has been discussed above, education should take account of individual needs and interests, to cultivate students according to their own will. However, since education serves for providing well-rounded students to society, it should adapt the needs and interests of students to those of society, and offer some compulsory courses to all of its students. Only after meeting these requests can an education system be alleged an effective one.
主要是开头觉得很不清楚，另外关于“only”这个限定词，批判得不够。

boyjimUID: 125249

好多人改地说~继续努力！！

conquer0824UID: 2102638

谢谢fatluo的点评，楼上的有时间也看看吧，谢谢了