issue212 【challenge yourself小组】第三次作业 by springelf

springelfUID：2458536

issue212 "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."

提纲：反对
1.首先我们无法判定什么目标是值得的。
2.即使目标确实是值得的，所谓的任何手段也不是能够控制的
结论：综合考虑

WORD: 583  NO TIME LIMITED
In this topic, the author asserts that any means to attain a worthwhile goal can be jutifiale. According to the statement, it seems that the author has two claims: first, people can judge whether a goal is worthy; And second, people can take any means to attain the worthy aim. However, I disagree both of his claims for its ill-consideration and arbitrary.

On one side, whether a goal is worthy or not is rarely straightforward issue, even if it has been experienced for many years. the value of a goal depend to one person's value, and so different people have different comments on the same goal. Take the clone technology for example. The final goal of clone technology is service for humankinds. For the scientists, to apply the clone technology for the human will satisfy their pursuit; for those patients who suffer malignant tumor, amputation, even the parents who lose their children, human reproductive cloning technology will help them restart their lives, get their limbs back and live with their children again. Yet for those bioethicists and people who don't use cloning technology, the birth of Dolly bring them panic, none of them can accept the clone human. Indisputably, the value of a goal, many of us believe, relies on the benefit of the human being. Whereas, when we illustrate the development of science and technology, we will find people always make the problem oversimplify. In fact, the goal to develop the science and technology is correct; also we must recognize that it is a two-edge weapon which can be use equally for good or evil. Could any spectacle, for instance, be more grimly whimsical than that of gunners using science to shatter men's bodies while, close at hand, surgeon use it to restore them? In short, to evaluate the value of a goal is too difficult whether from the different personal value or the benefits of the human being.

On the other side, Even if a goal is actually worthy, to take any means to attain it is not advisable. As we know, we must take various ways to attain a goal, even experience much failure. The the difficult process which Nobel got the success of explosion is a good illustration. But any means mentioned by the author is too absolute. Getting data of the effect of cold on people is a worthwhile goal, and could we make people dressing nothing stay in North Pole without consideration of their fates? The goal that researches the women's eggs is worthy, and could we illegally procure eggs from the female donors without informing them of some possible serious effects of egg donation? And to prevent the wolf destroying the sheep flock of herdsmen is also correct, and could we indiscriminate hunt the wolf without consideration of the ecology balance? Obviously, all the means above all cannot be taken, meanwhile, are not advisable.

In sum, whether the goal is worth cannot be over-simply defined by the personal value, and more relied on the social value. Even if the goal is in the society’s interest, we should weigh its advantage and disadvantage. Meanwhile, the means to attain the goal should be restricted its negative effects. When we take any mean to attain a goal—even if the goal is worthy, the negative effects brought by these means should be avoid. Only if we consider the goal and its mean in all aspects, the means we take will be useful and the goal will be really worthy.

这文章好难写啊~~~:vomit:

[ 本帖最后由 springelf 于 2008-7-30 09:41 编辑 ]

xomaeUID：2468629

In this topic, the author asserts that any means to attain a worthwhile goal can be jutifiale. According to the statement, it seems that the author has two claims: first, people can judge whether a goal is worthy; And second, people can take any means to attain the worthy aim. However, I disagree both of his claims for its ill-consideration and arbitrary.（觉得在第一段中，作者把题目分成两部分后显得有点模糊，尽管两者都是主观方面。在后面作者说了不完全同意上面两点，问题是题目假定“如果值得”....，则不应该就值不值得进行说明）

On one side, whether a goal is worthy or not is （a） rarely straightforward issue, even if it has been experienced for many years. the value of a goal depend to(on吗) one person's value（是说目标的价值是建立在人生的价值观上？如果是建立在人的价值上...很怪）, and so different people have different comments on the same goal. Take the clone technology for example. The final goal of clone technology is service for humankinds. For the scientists, to apply the clone technology for the human will satisfy their pursuit; for those patients who suffer malignant tumor, amputation（是在列举吗？后面那个是手术和前面不是一类）, even the parents who lose their children（直接说人快要死了好点，递进吗，这么绕着一说反而没有递进这层关系了）, human reproductive cloning technology will help them restart their lives, get their limbs back and live with their children again. Yet for those bioethicists and people who don't use cloning technology, the birth of Dolly bring them panic, none of them can accept the clone human. Indisputably, the value of a goal, many of us believe, relies on the benefit of the human being. Whereas, when we illustrate the development of science and technology, we will find people always make the problem oversimplify. In fact, the goal to develop the science and technology is correct（there is no controversy to whether we should develop the science and technology这样和in fact之间的衔接感觉好点）; also we must recognize that it is a two-edge weapon which can be use（used） equally for(这个似乎应该是to) good or evil. Could any spectacle, for instance, be more grimly whimsical than that of gunners using science to shatter men's bodies while, close at hand, surgeon use it to restore them? In short, to evaluate the value of a goal is too difficult whether from the different personal value or the benefits of the human being.

On the other side, Even if a goal is actually worthy, to take any means to attain it is not advisable. As we know, we must take various ways to attain a goal, even experience much failure（英文中even明确表示后面是前面的递进，用各种各样的方法实现目标--经历很多失败，even换成although是不是好点？）. The the difficult process which Nobel got the success of explosion is a good illustration. But any means mentioned by the author is too absolute. Getting data of the effect of cold on people is a worthwhile goal, and could we make people dressing nothing stay in North Pole without consideration of their fates? The goal that researches the women's eggs is worthy, and could we illegally procure eggs from the female donors without informing them of some possible serious effects of egg donation? And to prevent the wolf destroying the sheep flock of herdsmen is also correct, and could we indiscriminate hunt the wolf without consideration of the ecology balance? Obviously, all the means above all cannot be taken, meanwhile, are not advisable.

In sum, whether the goal is worth cannot be over-simply defined by the personal value, and more relied on the social value. Even if the goal is in the society’s interest, we should weigh its advantage and disadvantage. Meanwhile, the means to attain the goal should be restricted its negative effects. When we take any mean to attain a goal—even if the goal is worthy, the negative effects brought by these means should be avoid. Only if we consider the goal and its mean in all aspects, the means we take will be useful and the goal will be really worthy.


不合格的纠错游击队队员工作完毕

springelfUID：2458536

1..（觉得在第一段中，作者把题目分成两部分后显得有点模糊，尽管两者都是主观方面。在后面作者说了不完全同意上面两点，问题是题目假定“如果值得”....，则不应该就值不值得进行说明）其实我是想说，作者这个题目的前提就不对，既然连是否值得都不能判定，那又怎么谈后面的手段问题呢~我看到这个题目最不能忍的就是它的这个前提，所以就揪着写了。有点象北美issue17那个法律的范文的样子，我也不知道行不行的~~:rolleyes:

2.depend to(on吗) one person's value（是说目标的价值是建立在人生的价值观上？如果是建立在人的价值上...很怪 嗯，没有说好，应该是personal value吧，这样是不是没那么怪了？:loveliness:

3.suffer malignant tumor, amputation（是在列举吗？后面那个是手术和前面不是一类）, even the parents who lose their children（直接说人快要死了好点，递进吗，这么绕着一说反而没有递进这层关系了）, 这个，我是想是说，对于那些患恶性肿瘤，截肢的患者，甚至是那些失去了孩子的父母们来说，克隆技术可以帮助他们获得新生，重新得到肢体，也会让孩子们和父母重新生活在一起。是不是写的很费解啊？:funk:

4.（there is no controversy to whether we should develop the science and technology这样和in fact之间的衔接感觉好点）嗯，好像是顺点~~:loveliness:

5. As we know, we must take various ways to attain a goal, even experience much failure（英文中even明确表示后面是前面的递进，用各种各样的方法实现目标--经历很多失败，even换成although是不是好点？）. 貌似although也不顺，还不如不要了~~~:vomit:

其实这次我是想换个风格看看，就想到哪里写到哪里了，写出来感觉很爽，只是觉得效果好像不怎么样~~

再次感谢小X的认真批改，哪有不合格啊？改的很好的~~:handshake








[ 本帖最后由 springelf 于 2008-7-29 21:07 编辑 ]

xomaeUID：2468629

哈哈~速度这么快啊~  那个价值观的信息我查了下

Dr.eye：价值观，一般的翻译是“values”,这在《牛津高阶英汉双解词典》的词条“value”的第三个注释里，需要注意的是一定要用复数表示。除了表示“价值观念”之外，values还表示“职业道德、行为标准、准则”等等

:loveliness:

[ 本帖最后由 xomae 于 2008-7-29 21:33 编辑 ]

小火龙33UID：2448175

In this topic, the author asserts that any means to attain a worthwhile goal can be jutifiale. According to the statement, it seems that the author has two claims: first, people can judge whether a goal is worthy; And second, people can take any means to attain the worthy aim. However, I disagree both of his claims for its ill-consideration and arbitrary.（依旧是简洁强大的开头）

On one side, whether a goal is worthy or not is （a） rarely straightforward issue, even if it has been experienced for many years. the value of a goal depend（s) to(on) one person's value(感觉可以把person去掉呢and so different people have different comments on the same goal. Take the clone technology for example. The final goal of clone technology is service for humankinds. For the scientists, to apply the clone technology for the human will satisfy their pursuit; for those patients who suffer malignant tumor, amputation even the parents who lose their children, human reproductive cloning technology will help them restart their lives, get their limbs back and live with their children again. Yet for those bioethicists and people who don't use cloning technology, the birth of Dolly bring them panic, none of them can accept the clone human.（学到了个例子哈） Indisputably, the value of a goal, many of us believe, relies on the benefit of the human being. Whereas, when we illustrate the development of science and technology, we will find people always make（ing) the problem oversimplify. In fact, the goal to develop the science and technology is correct;also we must recognize that it is a two-edge weapon which can be use（used） equally for(by) good or evil. Could any spectacle, for instance, be more grimly whimsical than that of gunners using science to shatter men's bodies while, close at hand, surgeon use it to restore them? In short, to evaluate the value of a goal is too difficult whether from the different personal value or the benefits of the human being.

On the other side, Even if a goal is actually worthy, to take any means to attain it is not advisable. As we know, we must take various ways to attain a goal, even experience much failure.The the difficult process which Nobel got the success of explosion is a good illustration. But any means mentioned by the author is too absolute. Getting data of the effect of cold on people is a worthwhile goal, and could we make people dressing nothing stay in North Pole without consideration of their fates? The goal that researches the women's eggs is worthy, and could we illegally procure eggs from the female donors without informing them of some possible serious effects of egg donation? And to prevent the wolf destroying the sheep flock of herdsmen is also correct, and could we indiscriminate hunt the wolf without consideration of the ecology balance? Obviously, all the means above all cannot be taken, meanwhile, are not advisable.(很好的例子哈要学习）

In sum, whether the goal is worth cannot be over-simply defined by the personal value, and more relied on the social value. Even if the goal is in the society’s interest, we should weigh its advantage and disadvantage. Meanwhile, the means to attain the goal should be restricted its negative effects. When we take any mean to attain a goal—even if the goal is worthy, the negative effects brought by these means should be avoid. Only if we consider the goal and its mean in all aspects, the means we take will be useful and the goal will be really worthy.