issue212【加州阳光】第九次作业 拍的响亮~

benniUID: 2166321

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If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable.


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1、为了实现一个值得的目标，我们的确应该尽很大努力。
2、然而，“任何方法“就不合逻辑了。因为一个目标是否值得，是与实现他的方法有关的。
3、从社会角度看，为了解决一个社会问题，依然要考虑方法的正负面影响。


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Is it reasonable to attain a goal, so long as is worthy, by any means? While I concede that if a goal is worth people' effort, they should take affirmative measures to attain it, however, I disagree with the speaker's extreme assertion.

Admittedly, for a worthy destination, people should strive to achieve it without considering the pains on the road. In the field of academia, consider, for instance, the historical celebrity-Galileo Galilee. In spite of the press from Catholic Church, Galileo was always persistent to find the truth and survey it to public. With respects to the athlete, to be proficient at certain realms and be the winner of Olympic Games, the athlete abandon the educational opportunity and the easy childhood and accept considerable exercise and eventually won the respect and honor of the society. Both of the two above examples reveal that if a dream is worth chasing, one should take means to fulfill it.

Conceding the merit of the claim, I find that the speaker is on the wrong philosophical side of the issue. In the first place, the speaker begs a significant problem--how to judge whether a goal is worthy or not. As far as I am concerned, people usually weigh the benefit and lose in the means by which we attempt to achieve that goal. Simply put, whether a goal is worthy tightly relates to the means one taken. One telling example has to do with a recent event in China. To escape from the endless family violence, a woman cruelly killed her husband. Actually, the suffering of the woman deserves our sympathy, however she can choose other ways to get out of the nightmare to avoid the tragedy and as a result, she must be punished due to the law. Another phenomenon in numerous countries also serves to demonstrate my viewpoint.  To pursue high profit, many companies make low-quality production to decrease the cost, even by some illegal methods, considering apart the morality, law and relative regulations. Although the pursuit of profit is reasonable for any company, the consumers’ benefit should not be the sacrifice.

Secondly, in the society level, this assertion is also obviously illogical. As a general rule, improving air-quality certainly is a worthy goal. What if the government forces all the factories out of work and all the residents stop using personal car? In terms of capital allocation of a nation, it is a indisputably wise decision to invest on education. What if the government invests most of the money on the education to ensure every child receive the highest-quality education, considering apart other social problems and some more immediate human suffering? Obviously, both of the two methods is definitely unreasonable. When people attempt to solve one social problem, they should not only consider the problem itself, but also take the influence of the method into considering to avoid bring more problems to our society. To sum up, when it comes to social affairs, the speaker's hasty generalization is also unreasonable.

In conclusion, although if a goal is worthy people should try hard to attain it, I strongly disagree with that any measure taken to achieve it is justifiable. Because whether a goal is worthy is inherently related to the positive and the negative influence it will bring and consequently, we cannot break the law and morality to attain a so-called ”worthy goal” and should also avoid putting threat on our society for any excuse.

lixiaomin046400UID: 2207959

第二段的论证不够有力，虽然举了两个例子，但是都是一带而过，特别是伽利略的那个。
第三段，有些不明白，你的中心论点是如何判断这个目标值不值得，你认为whether a goal is worthy tightly relates to the means one taken与采用的手段有关，这个我不太赞同，感觉你的论证没有说服我。

写的挺好，向你学习~是限时写的么？

loryshuangUID: 2211255

Is it reasonable to attain a goal, so long as is worthy, by any means? While I concede that if a goal is worth people' effort, they should take affirmative measures to attain it, however, I disagree with the speaker's extreme assertion.

Admittedly, for a worthy destination, people should strive to achieve it without considering the pains on the road. In the field of academia, consider, for instance, the historical celebrity-Galileo Galilee. In spite of the press from Catholic Church, Galileo was always (still) persistent to find the truth and survey(revealed) it to public. With respects to the athlete, to be proficient at certain(their) realms and be the winner of Olympic Games, the athlete(s) abandon the educational opportunity and the easy childhood and(to) accept considerable exercise and(challenging the limit and)eventually won the respect and honor of the society. Both of the two above examples reveal that if a dream is worth chasing(感觉有点怪,也许achieving可以), one should take means(可以这样用吗?换成try the best怎么样?) to fulfill it.

Conceding the merit of the claim, I find that the speaker is on the wrong philosophical side of the issue. In the first place, the speaker begs a significant problem--how to judge whether a goal is worthy or not. As far as I am concerned, people usually weigh the benefit and lose(loss) in the means by which we attempt to achieve that goal. Simply put, whether a goal is worthy tightly relates to the means one taken. One telling example has to do with a recent event in China. To escape from the endless family violence, a woman cruelly killed her husband. Actually, the suffering of the woman deserves our sympathy, however she can choose other ways to get out of the nightmare to(and) avoid the tragedy and (but)as a result, she must be punished due to the law. Another phenomenon in numerous countries also serves to demonstrate my viewpoint.  To pursue high profit, many companies make low-quality production to decrease the cost, even by some illegal methods, considering apart the morality, law and relative regulations. Although the pursuit of profit is reasonable for any company, the consumers’ benefit should not be the sacrifice.(Pursuiting the profit, at the expence of the consumer's benifit violates the principle of a legal company)

Secondly, in the society level, this assertion is also obviously illogical. As a general rule, improving air-quality certainly is a worthy goal. What if the government forces all the factories out of work and all the residents stop using personal car? In terms of capital allocation of a nation, it is a indisputably wise decision to invest on education. What if the government invests most of the money on the education to ensure every child receive the highest-quality education, considering apart other social problems and some more immediate human suffering? Obviously, both of the two methods is definitely unreasonable. When people attempt to solve one social problem, they should not only consider the problem itself, but also take the influence of the method into considering to avoid bring more problems to our society.(这两个论据好像不是很合适啊) To sum up, when it comes to social affairs, the speaker's hasty generalization is also unreasonable.

In conclusion, although if(不要if) a goal is worthy(,) people should try hard to attain it, I strongly disagree with that any measure taken to achieve it is justifiable. Because whether a goal is worthy is inherently related to the positive and the negative influence it will bring and consequently, we cannot break the law and morality to attain a so-called ”worthy goal” and should also avoid putting threat on our society for any excuse.

我想楼主因为时间太匆忙,所以结尾没有仔细考虑一下逻辑,再看看啊,哈哈.
是新手,改的不好的地方望包涵啊.还有同意楼上的,第二段再想想

benniUID: 2166321

谢谢楼上的拍转英雄们！

我是限时写，然后再修改，大家帮我改完了，再次修改。所以看起来还算流畅。限时刚出来的版本还是比较恶心的。

关于第二段伽利略的例子，个人觉得没必要叙述太多，因为众人皆知，修锐说大例子小写可能就是这个意思。不过确实应该增加一些评论，修改中...

jujuangelaUID: 2181388

Is it reasonable to attain a goal, so long as is worthy, by any means? While I concede that if a goal is worth (worth 动词，不加is)people' effort, they（从句主句主谓不一致） should take affirmative measures to attain it, however, I disagree with the speaker's extreme assertion.

Admittedly, for a worthy destination, people should strive to achieve it without considering the pains on the road. In the field of academia, consider, for instance, the historical celebrity-Galileo Galilee. In spite of the press from Catholic Church, Galileo was always persistent to find the truth and survey（convey） it to public. With respects to the athlete, to be proficient at certain realms and be the winner of Olympic Games, the athlete abandon the educational opportunity and the easy childhood and accept considerable exercise and eventually won the respect and honor of the society. Both of the two above examples reveal that if a dream is worth chasing, one should take means to fulfill it.

Conceding the merit of the claim, I find that the speaker is on the wrong philosophical side of the issue. In the first place, the speaker begs a significant problem--how to judge whether a goal is worthy or not. As far as I am concerned, people usually weigh the benefit and lose （词性不对） in the means by which we attempt to achieve that goal. Simply put, whether a goal is worthy tightly relates to the means one taken. One telling example has to do with a recent event in China. To escape from the endless family violence, a woman cruelly killed her husband. Actually, the suffering of the woman deserves our sympathy, however she can choose other ways to get out （rid）of the nightmare to avoid the tragedy and as a result, she must be punished due to the law(原因是她的罪行，而不是因为法律吧). Another phenomenon in numerous countries also serves to demonstrate my viewpoint.  To pursue high profit, many companies make low-quality production to decrease the cost, even by some illegal methods, considering apart the morality, law and relative regulations. （这个例子正好证明了goal和means有区别，盈利的goal无可非议，但不恰当的means导致事与愿违）Although the pursuit of profit is reasonable for any company, the consumers’ benefit should not be the sacrifice.

Secondly, in the society level, this assertion is also obviously illogical. As a general rule, improving air-quality certainly is a worthy goal. What if the government forces all the factories out of work and all the residents stop using personal car? In terms of capital allocation of a nation, it is a indisputably wise decision to invest on education. What if the government invests most of the money on the education to ensure every child receive the highest-quality education, considering apart other social problems and some more immediate human suffering? Obviously, both of the two methods is definitely unreasonable. When people attempt to solve one social problem, they should not only consider the problem itself, but also take the influence of the method into considering to avoid bring more problems to our society. To sum up, when it comes to social affairs, the speaker's hasty generalization is also unreasonable.（为什么局限在社会问题呢？benni举的两个例子都是goal合理，但方法过激，对个人集体都存在这种不好的情况啊）

In conclusion, although if a goal is worthy people should try hard to attain it, I strongly disagree with that any measure taken to achieve it is justifiable. Because whether a goal is worthy is inherently related to the positive and the negative influence it will bring and consequently, we cannot break the law and morality to attain a so-called ”worthy goal” and should also avoid putting threat on our society for any excuse.（逻辑不是很清楚）

改晚了哈，应该不耽误吧
看看我的：
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benniUID: 2166321

谢谢楼上的，一会儿去拍你的。

我第三段说的是“目标得值的与否与实现他的方法是挂钩的”并不是说两者是一样的，所以后面那个关于盈利的例子是想说明盈利合理，方法可耻，可能没表达清楚。

第四段at the social level 是从social event入手，上一段是at the personal level，但是限时的时候忘了写了，后来重写了一遍，嘿嘿

这篇的问题超多，谢谢各位！