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In this argument, the author concludes that colleges and universities should adopt honor codes similar to Groveton's in order to combat cheating , by making a comparison of the record of twenty-one cases of cheating in the first year when honor codes was conducted in Groveton, with the record of fourteen cases five years later while in an old-fashioned system , an average of thirty cases of cheating per year were reported . In addition, he points out that a recent survey conducted by the Groveton honor council which showed that a majority of students said that they would be less likely to cheat with an honor code in place than without to support his conclusion. However, the statement alone does not constitute a logical argument in favor of its conclusion and fails to provide compelling support  to make this argument sound.





The author commits “After of this ,Therefore,Becsuse of this” fallacy.He assumes that implementing honor codes caused the diminished cheating cases.The line of the reasoning is that because the conduct of honor codes before the decreased cheating cases,the former event causes the latter.But other possible alternatives to the decreased cheating cases haven’t be considered and ruled out.For example,perhaps there are less students since the new system is conducted and even much less five years later ,or the qualities of the students are improving in the five years so that they are prone to be honest in exams .Thus,the argument is unwarranted without ruling out such possibilities.



Even if the former situation equals the latter,the disminished cheatig cases possibly indicate the students’ unwillingness to notify faculty members if they suspect that others have cheated in case that they will fall into interpersonal dispute afterward, or even some students reach an agreement that they will never notify each other in private in order to get better grades. Actually,the cheating cases haven’t reduced or even there's an upward tendency in cheating only we can’t see from the surface of the data.Thus either of these possibilities,if it is true,would cast serious doubt on the arguer’s claim that colleges and universities should adopt honor codes to reduce cheating.





Even if honor codes in fact has taken into effect,the arguer doesn't provide compelling evidence that it will work in the future ,given that there maybe are some uncertain elements.For example, intrant students will increase so that it will lead to more cheating cases even though the rate of cheating is the same,or the publishment for cheating is not as strict as before ,as a consequence, students will apt to take a risk cheating.Therefore,without stronger evidence that the new system will still effective ,the arguer can’t convince me of its validity.




Mover,the validity of the survey is open to question.The arguer doesn’t provide sufficient information about how the survey is conducted.Is the type of the survey is anonymous or autonomous by questionnaire?Is the survey conducted by interviewing face to face?If the survey is conducted by autonomous by questionnaire or interviewing face to face,it’s common sense to know that a majority of people are reluctant to show their dishonesty no matter whether an honor code is in place or not.Besides, from the survey quoted in the argument, however, we find no sign of such procedure for random sampling, and have good reasons to doubt if the sample is representative enough to reflect the general Groveton students as a whole.


Finally,even though the survey doesn’t have the shortcomings mentioned above ,the arguer draws a hasty conclusion, based on inadequate evidence about the students in Groveton.No evidence is presrnted that indicates all college and university students would behave the same as those in Groveton.It is possible that some colleges’ and universities’ students would resist the conduct of honor codes so that honor codes can’t even be conducted ,let alone its effectiveness.For those reasons,he can't draw his conclusion regardless of different situations between Groveton and the others.

In sum,since the author commits the above mentioned logical mistakes and fails to consider the whole situation comprehensively, his ideas should not be adopted. The conclusion would be strengthened if the amount change of students in Groveton in five years,more information about the survey and the situations in Groveton and in other college sand universities are provided.


ps:第一次,arguement 范文也是昨天看的。。。所以,请多包涵了~

那个,看了ananbeatgreMM的修改,我发现我的拼写错误太多,所以修改下我拼写好了~方便其他的组员修改,先感谢anan提出的意见~

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发表于 2009-3-12 19:17:24 |显示全部楼层
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In this argument, the author concludes that colleges and universities should adopt honor codes similar to Groveton's in order to combat cheating , by making a comparison of the record of twenty-one cases of cheating in the first year when honor codes was conducted in Groveton, with the record(that) of fourteen cases five years later while(while前最好加个逗号吧,或者我觉得分成2个句子说会更好点,后面用Meanwhile, in old-fashioned….) in an old-fashioned system , an average of thirty cases of cheating per year were reported . In addition, he points out that a recent survey conducted by the Groveton honor council which showed that a majority of students said that they would be less likely to cheat with an honor code in place than without(LZ和我一样直接重复的题目,哎,感觉不是特别好,但是我也没想出比较好的表达方式,(⊙o⊙)…) to support his conclusion(删。。前面用了point out 这个似乎多余了).However, the statement alone does not constitute a logical argument in favor of its conclusion and fails to provide compelling supports making (to make) this argument sound.


The author commits “After of this ,Therefore, Becsuse (because)of this” fallcy(fallacy).He assumes that implementing honor codes caused the diminished cheating cases .The line of the reasoning is that because the conduct of honor codes before the decreased cheating cases(呃。。这句话语法表述有误,LZ是想说‘因为honor codes在cheating cases减少之前’,可是好像少了谓语,that也多余啦,改成这样吧because the conduct of honor codes is before the decreased cheating cases),the former event casuses(causes) the latter.
But other possible alternatives to the decreased cheating cases haven’t be considered and ruled out(重复了哦). For example, perhaps there are less students since the new system is conducted and even much less five years later ,or the qualities of the students are improving(知道LZ想表达在这5年中,学生素质‘在’提高,不过还是觉得应该用improved,学生素质提高了) in the five years so that they are prone to be honesty (honest)in exams .Thus, the argument is unwarranted(这是“未保证的;未授权的”的意思吧,是否用啥unstable不稳定的,之类好点呢) without ruling out such possibilities.

Even if the former situation equals the latter, the disminished cheatig(diminished cheating) cases possibly indicate the students’ unwillingness to notify aculty(faculty) members if they suspect that others have cheated(删去,按照LZ的逻辑来说的话这里应该是表达“作弊数的减少可能表明了学生不愿意揭发个别人为了防止XXXXX甚至XXXX,那么IF这句在这里即多余了,又感觉逻辑和IF的语法有问题呢) in case that they will fall into interpersonal dispute afterward(这个原因想得挺好的,表达的也挺好的,我就只想到会相互包庇), or even some students reach an agreement that they will never notify each other in private in order to get better grades(啊,这个也挺好的,说的很充分). Actually, the cheating cases haven’t reduced or even there's an upward tendency (就说increase吧,说又增加而不是有趋势)in cheating only (就用that吧,only这个用法,偶MS没见过)we can’t see from the surface of the data. Thus either of these possibilities, if it is true ,would cast serious doubt on the arguer’s claim that colleges and universities should adopt honor codes to reduce cheating.


Even if honor codes in fact has taken into effect ,the arguer doesn't provide compelling evidence that it will work in the future ,given that there maybe are (there are maybe)some uncertain elements. For example, intrant students will increase so that it will lead to more cheating cases even though the rate of cheating is the same(这段和LZ上段说“学生减少,所以作弊数减少”重复了吧~),or the publishment for cheating is not as strict as before ,as a consequence, students will apt to take a risk cheating(risk这里应该有问题on cheating还是of cheating?其实我也不是很明白sorry~). Therefore, without stronger evidence that the ngw(new) system will still effective ,the arguer can’t convince me of its validity.


Mover, the validity of the survey is open to question. The arguer doesn’t provide sufficient information about how the survey is conducted. Is the
type of the survey is anonymous or autonymous (autonomous by questionnaire? Is the survey conducted by interviewing face to face? If the survey is conducted by autonymous by questionnaire(antonymous questionnaire )or interviewing face to face, it’s common sence(sense) to know that a majority of people are reluctant to show their dishonesty no matter whether an honor code is in place or not (我也有想到被调查者的话的真实度这个点,可是LZ写的比我充分多啦!!讨论的很充分啦).Besides, from the survey quoted in the argument, however, we find no sign of such procedure for random sampling, and have good reasons to doubt if the sample is representative enough to reflect the general Groveton students as a whole.(总之LZ这段是我的大爱。真的写的挺有说服力的。论证很有力哦,同样的点,果然还是LZ写的更好,我要学习~)

Finally, even though the survey doesn’t have the shortcomings mentioned above ,the arguer draws a hasty conclusion, based on inadequate evidence about the students in Groveton. No evidence is presrnted(presented)that indicate all college and university students would behave the same as those in Groveton(No evidence presented indicate that all college and university students would behave the same as those in Groveton).It is possible that some colleges’ and universities’ students would resist the conduct of honor codes so that honor codes can’t even be conducted, let alone its effectiveness. For those reasons, he can't draw his conlusion (conclusion) regardless of differernt (different)situations between Groveton and the others.
In sum, since the author commits the above mentioned logical mistakes and fails to consider the whole situation comprehensively, his ideas should not be adopted. The conclusion would be strengthened if the amount change of students in Groveton in five years, more information about the survey and the situations in Groveton and in other college sand(and) universities.(LZ写到最后心急了么~这句话语法有问题哦,偶知道你想表达啥,可是偶也不知道咋改了,或许可以这样改accounting for the amount change of students in Groveton in five years,more information about the survey and the situations in Groveton and in other college and universities。)

恩,总的来说LZ ,偶觉得LZ的逻辑要比我好,哦不,是好多了~~~,不过也有和我一样的毛病哦~很明显的模板印子哦~LZ的段结尾要比我好~还有我觉得前面2个论点写的也不是很充分(我的更烂),第三个很好~恩还有一个最重要问题就是。。。。。。。。。。LZ可以先用word该下错~哈哈哈,好多拼写错误呢,连different都有错哦~(*^__^*)……

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发表于 2009-3-12 19:44:03 |显示全部楼层
对了
才发现LZ也是武汉的呢

缘分啦~偶也是哦(*^__^*) ……

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发表于 2009-3-12 23:20:43 |显示全部楼层
3# ananbeatgre
谢谢了~我现在才发现真的语法和拼写错误好多。。。我的word没有拼写检验功能的说。。。不过偶已经去下了新版本了~辛苦啦~
MM真的很一针见血哦,我是确实有参考模板的,因为完全不知道怎么写,所以有偷懒。。。
虚心接受意见,其实我的逻辑有点小混乱,因为到后来我不知道改怎么下笔了。。。
呵呵,MM在哪上学啊?

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发表于 2009-3-14 01:04:18 |显示全部楼层
我是理工大滴!!!!!!你呢? 4# winning1030

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