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[技术思考] argument就应该这样写(二)!!! [复制链接]

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发表于 2006-8-13 14:50:39 |只看该作者
这个fee的增长是写信人写的
we can think that he only consider or focus on the increased fee, but ignores other reasons

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发表于 2006-8-13 15:38:42 |只看该作者
原帖由 annocqu 于 2006-3-28 19:48 发表
不同楼主观点,奉劝各位也不要看到个新鲜的观点后就盲目根风~!!

作为 反驳 艺术,或许楼主在理,但是你的“推理”,也仅仅在推理的范围之内,你又有什么依据呢? 题目中的陈述中只involve了price的问题,你 ...


同意lz

写东西要有自己的思考。argu本来就是文字游戏,寻找作者逻辑推理环节中的漏洞。 不错,任何观点都要充分展开才有可能得高分,但是这种展开是基于题目之上的,不是在自己assumption的基础上攻击别人的assumption,要不那且不成了五十步笑百步 ^_^

最好是劝各位先看看范文然后自己总结自己的一套,当然别人的观点可以做参考

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发表于 2006-8-13 19:30:44 |只看该作者
顶~~终于明白啥叫insigntful analysis~~~楼主超有道理, 偶觉的连issue也是!!!

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发表于 2006-8-13 20:35:27 |只看该作者
猛然醒悟啊  太感谢拉
在痛苦中磨练!只为登上最终的山峰

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发表于 2006-8-13 23:15:39 |只看该作者

赞一下,多谢楼主

我本来也在思考argument如何去写,看了几篇范文,只是注意了一下里面的论证结构和语言,并没有把注意力集中在寻找逻辑关系上面,或者正如lz说得没有领悟到argument的精髓。 佩服佩服,幸好有看到这篇帖子,真的是受益匪浅,感谢感谢。。。。。。

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发表于 2006-8-13 23:23:54 |只看该作者
冒冷汗 。。。。。说的就是偶
疯狂背单词

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发表于 2006-8-14 08:14:46 |只看该作者
好啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:victory:

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发表于 2006-8-14 09:06:18 |只看该作者
thank you
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发表于 2006-8-14 09:30:31 |只看该作者
GTER真是个好地方,每次来都能有重大收获
祝楼主收到一卡车的offer

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发表于 2006-8-18 13:25:46 |只看该作者
楼主的思路很有启发:)

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发表于 2006-8-18 15:55:42 |只看该作者

我倒觉得关键问题是学习老美对自己语言的理解

大家根据题目,分析出来的逻辑关系不尽相同

我想知道,同样的题目,拿到老美那里,他们怎么分析呢?
比如那个价钱影响结论的前提到底考不考虑?
哪位考友有美国朋友的,可以让他们分析下看看.

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发表于 2006-8-18 15:58:45 |只看该作者

刚看了下老美的范文,这篇文章就是从三个证据上批的啊

下是原文:

The following appeared in a letter to the editor of the Walnut Grove town newspaper.
"Walnut Grove's town council has advocated switching from EZ Disposal (which has had the contract for trash collection services in Walnut Grove for the past ten years) to ABC Waste, because EZ recently raised its monthly fee from $2,000 to $2,500 a month, whereas ABC's fee is still $2,000. But the town council is mistaken; we should continue using EZ. EZ collects trash twice a week, while ABC collects only once. Moreover, EZ---which, like ABC, currently has a fleet of 20 trucks---has ordered additional trucks. Finally, EZ provides exceptional service: 80 percent of respondents to last year's town survey agreed that they were 'satisfied' with EZ's performance."

This letter recommends that Walnut Grove continue to contract with EZ Disposal, which has provided trash-collection services to Walnut Grove for ten years, rather than switching to ABC Waste. To justify this recommendation the letter's author notes that even though ABC's weekly fee is $500 less than EZ's, EZ collects twice per week whereas ABC would collect only once per week. The author also points out that, although both companies have the same number of trucks, EZ has ordered additional trucks. Finally, the author cites a recent survey in which 80% of respondents indicated that they were satisfied with EZ's service. I find this recommendation specious on several grounds.

First of all, the fact that EZ collects trash twice as often as ABC is significant only if the town would benefit from an additional collection each week. Yet the author provides no evidence that this is the case. For all we know, one collection per week suffices to dispose all of the town's trash. If so, then on the basis of frequency of collection it would make no sense to favor EZ's costlier service over ABC's less expensive one.

Secondly, the fact that EZ has ordered more trucks proves little in itself about which service would be the better choice for Walnut Grove. Perhaps EZ does not plan to use its new trucks for collecting Walnut Grove's trash. For that matter, perhaps EZ does not use its entire current fleet for this purpose, whereas ABC would. Besides, the author does not indicate when EZ will receive its new trucks; the later the delivery date, the less significant this factor should be in Walnut Grove's decision.

Thirdly, the mere fact that most respondents to a recent survey considered EZ's service satisfactory provides little support to the author's recommendation. The author fails to provide assurances that these respondents are representative of the overall population of people whose trash EZ collects. Moreover, even if that population is generally satisfied it is entirely possible that they would be even more satisfied with ABC's services.

In sum, the recommendation is not well supported. To bolster it the letter's author must provide specific evidence that Walnut Grove would benefit from an additional trash collection each week, and that the use of additional trucks would improve service to Walnut Grove. To better assess the strength of the recommendation I would need more information about the demographic profile of the survey's respondents. It would also be helpful to obtain opinions from municipalities and individuals that have some experience with both EZ and ABC.

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发表于 2006-8-18 16:29:22 |只看该作者

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楼上!!!这个范文是中国人写的,什么北美范文.骗人的,请看官方范文!

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发表于 2006-8-18 21:46:56 |只看该作者

是挺有道理的

比北美范文有更深刻见解

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发表于 2006-9-5 12:28:43 |只看该作者
谢谢lz
18694883 英语群,望大家来此english chat.;)

IN EARNEST~~JUST DO IT~~

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