ISSUE93 个人责任与社会环境

雨&彩虹UID：132532

93 "The concept of 'individual responsibility' is a necessary fiction. Although societies must hold individuals accountable for their own actions, people's behavior is largely determined by forces not of their own making."

这篇ISSUE 主要是关于内因外因的问题， 论述人的行为究竟是大部分由外因还是内因来决定的。

第一， 社会的运转依据的基本概念就是人是作为一个理性个体，能为自己行为负责。 在家庭范围呢， 个人的责任包括提供SHELTER， PROTECTION ，精神上相互扶持，父母对子女养育教育。在工作上，任何一家公司的运转都是给个人以相应的任务，无论个人对渎职提出何种的借口， 但是在本质上是不允许这种行为的。那么在社会领域里面， 社会赋予的权利对应的就是相关的义务，个人要承担起自己的责任， 一些犯罪行为，无论借口如何合理，还是无法彻底免除法律惩罚的

第二，我们应该意识到的是，从心理学和人类学的角度说，社会环境和文化环境确实对人的行为起到了一定的影响作用， 这种作用有正面的，也有负面的，尤其是在那种人没有形成完全的认知和分析能力的时候，这种影响尤为明显。

第三， 认识到以上两点，就使我们能更好一个人行为背后真正的内外因原因， 甚至对我们对下一代的教育方法论都会起到一定作用。

剩下大家自己补充。

angeikimUID：4857

so, this genetic factor should be called as internal or external?  

quite confused..
since that is one part of every individual, while it is not decided by the human will...

jeffUID：117821

the strictly determinsit philosopher hold that every thing is phisicially necessary and prodetermined , that is , in many circustances , people's behavior is only fulfill certain determined procession to meet the determined ends . in this sense, the behavior is largely affected by external force rather than own making.

the science of genetics also lend credible to the statement that many style of human behavior is determined by gene of people . such the temperation, the sex inclination.

angeikimUID：4857

最初由 ilikeapple 发布
[B]individuals should take the responsibility for what they have done, otherwise, the external factors can be used as excuses for their wrongdoings and the regulat..

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good point! bingo ^_^

天地无用UID：112318

i firmly believe that it is not necessarily to drive internal personality into the opposion of the enviroment factors,
by this i mean these two points sometimes interwine to form organic whole, thus being more persuasive than anyone single.
So,  any thinking person should be able to reconsile the two.

ilikeappleUID：135385

individuals should take the responsibility for what they have done, otherwise, the external factors can be used as excuses for their wrongdoings and the regulatiion and laws could exert no real effect on the individulals.

but the external factors can not neglected either, for as social creatures, human beings can not live without the influence from the outside.  eg. social pressure as a politican.

angeikimUID：4857

actually, i dont think so. since the internal personality is formed according to the outside influence, such as the culture one is in, social conventions,  etc.

so, under this kinda circumstance, i can draw a conclusion that outside influences are the most important resolved factors to the internal nature.

it is like to say, human is born sin or the opposite?  or no charaters at all in the very beginning? which factors influence us? outside factors, right?

^_^ so... ^_^

tomatoeggsUID：82073

最初由 angeikim 发布
[B]how about when outside factors totally changed the nature of inside ones? [/B]

I think, from the philosophical perspective, it's impossible, but rather, the internal could be changed a little but still remains most of the part by the external.

雨&彩虹UID：132532

自由意志 FREE WILL

cloudburstUID：136140

最初由 paisley 发布
[B][QUOTE]最初由 cloudburst 发布
[B]你说的这个我一直比较迷惑。还没好好想过，看书太少了。没啥好说的了。
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其实我也觉得会越说越绕进去。点到为止吧，不知就写到上面的观点不再深入判卷人认可否。

对了，自由意志怎么说？（汗～～）

enso1600UID：135796

这是三月的题吧

paisleyUID：64183

最初由 cloudburst 发布
[B]人本主义心理学家认为人是应当为自己的行为负责任的。
例如：一摇滚歌手吸毒酗酒早逝，有人将其死亡归咎于社会，因为被父母隔离疏远后来被警察纠缠周围人给他压力等等生活..

以下省略...... [/B]

你说的这个我一直比较迷惑。还没好好想过，看书太少了。没啥好说的了。

cloudburstUID：136140

人本主义心理学家认为人是应当为自己的行为负责任的。
例如：一摇滚歌手吸毒酗酒早逝，有人将其死亡归咎于社会，因为被父母隔离疏远后来被警察纠缠周围人给他压力等等生活中的种种不幸使他最终走上这条路，但有人认为他应该为自己的行为负责任，具体观点记不清了，大意应该是说没有人强迫他这么做，人应该为自己的行为负主要责任，虽然有时会受环境影响，但是我们有自由意志因此有能力决定自己的命运和方向。（这是教科书上的例子）

angeikimUID：4857

how about when outside factors totally changed the nature of inside ones?

天地无用UID：112318

楼主的态度是支持型阿...

可是哲学课上有个很重要的结论就是内因外因对于事物的作用,内因起主导作用阿.
不过不太好写...